Feminists sabotage yet another talk on men's equality

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

No, see, that's not the way it works.

There's a difference between a couple of crazy women saying crazy shit about men and thousands of years of official and unofficial repression and discrimination of women.

Look around you. Do you see any women having less rights than men do? You don't do you? I know you don't because WOMEN HAVE EVERY RIGHT THAT MEN DO!

I find it quite darkly amusing that someone totally opposed to female bodily autonomy is trying to claim that women have every right that men do.

[Ostroeuropa]

ONLY IF said actions were current and made your life a living hell, and only then only to the specific group of people who are doing so, not to a whole group of unknowns.

It's like people feeling vindictive because they have AIDS and they spread it to the entire members of the sex who transmitted it to them. It's not justified to do harm or use these types of actions to others who have nothing to do with you, not in the slightest.

If people want to be respected, they must give respect; it's simple logic.

Women, especially feminists, don't want to be respected by someone else's standards.

They want to be autonomous and respect because of their humanity, and this overwhelming attitude going on in here that these women were "too radical" or "unjustified" are only perpetuating misogyny and misogyny-apologism.

If an anti-woman meeting is going on at a prominent public university, it is as detestable as if it was an anti-Black meeting or an anti-Jew meeting.

Do not criticize or condescend to these female protesters, they were justified. Question the group they were protesting.

You have not questioned the group they were protesting. You have not looked at their literature, nor their website, nor viewed the meeting that the protest interrupted. If you had, you would realize how stupid it is to call it an anti-woman meeting.
The fact you havn't bothered to check is something that is endemic to the feminist movement, by the way. It's probably why those nutters turned up. Nobody read any further than "Not feminist."

[The Rich Port]

No, see, that's not the way it works.

There's a difference between a couple of crazy women saying crazy shit about men and thousands of years of official and unofficial repression and discrimination of women.

Look around you. Do you see any women having less rights than men do? You don't do you? I know you don't because WOMEN HAVE EVERY RIGHT THAT MEN DO!

... Yes, yes I do.

I see the abuse and the repression of women by men every day here in Florida. I hear about it happening all over the state, all over the country, all over the world.

[Natapoc]

These are not talks on men's equality. These are talks by anti feminist groups who hate women at their core. A pro rape, anti female, hate group was invited to the campus and these brave protestors confronted them.

I'm proud of the protesters for effectively shutting down the misogynists and letting them know that they are unwelcome on their campus.

Effectively shutting them down by pulling the fire alarm.

That's not "shutting them down," that's oppressing them, which, at its core, is the very thing the Feminist movement is trying to stop. You don't claim to be a feminist, and then suppress pinions of others through idiotic ways out of your own misandry.

In essence, by silencing these men, the women have been doing to them, what had been done to them, before the feminist movement gained popularity.

The campus should be a safe place for women and men to study and learn. The ideals spread by so called "mens rights" groups are the ideals of the rapist. Giving these people a platform for spreading their pro-rape viewpoints makes the campus a more dangerous place for everyone: Especially for women. These are not mere academic ideas being discussed in an academic context. It's an ideology that threatens to seriously harm a significant percent of the population.

If I knew the name of the person who pulled the fire alarm (and I don't), I'd not give it up for a million dollars. These protesters did not oppress anyone, on the contrary they are protesting against the people who would choose to continue systematic oppression against women.

A woman has every right to protect herself by not allowing these people to speak at their campus.

[The Truth and Light]

Women, especially feminists, don't want to be respected by someone else's standards.

They want to be autonomous and respect because of their humanity, and this overwhelming attitude going on in here that these women were "too radical" or "unjustified" are only perpetuating misogyny and misogyny-apologism.

If an anti-woman meeting is going on at a prominent public university, it is as detestable as if it was an anti-Black meeting or an anti-Jew meeting.

Do not criticize or condescend to these female protesters, they were justified. Question the group they were protesting.

You have not questioned the group they were protesting. You have not looked at their literature, nor their website, nor viewed the meeting that the protest interrupted. If you had, you would realize how stupid it is to call it an anti-woman meeting.
The fact you havn't bothered to check is something that is endemic to the feminist movement, by the way. It's probably why those nutters turned up. Nobody read any further than "Not feminist."

^Proof that you don't know what you're talking about and you don't know what I know.

[Ostroeuropa]

You have not questioned the group they were protesting. You have not looked at their literature, nor their website, nor viewed the meeting that the protest interrupted. If you had, you would realize how stupid it is to call it an anti-woman meeting.
The fact you havn't bothered to check is something that is endemic to the feminist movement, by the way. It's probably why those nutters turned up. Nobody read any further than "Not feminist."

^Proof that you don't know what you're talking about and you don't know what I know.

Can you source any misogynist literature or clips from the organization in question.

[The Truth and Light]

If people want to be respected, they must give respect; it's simple logic.

Remember people, just sit down, don't make a fuss, and when they're ready, I'm SURE they'll let you sit at the front of the bus.

Fuck that noise.

Totally agreed.

Tone policing can fuck itself. In the ass.

[Nailed to the Perch]

No, see, that's not the way it works.

There's a difference between a couple of crazy women saying crazy shit about men and thousands of years of official and unofficial repression and discrimination of women.

Look around you. Do you see any women having less rights than men do? You don't do you? I know you don't because WOMEN HAVE EVERY RIGHT THAT MEN DO!

Well, first of all, I'm not so completely blindered as to pretend that my house is the entire world, so yes, I see numerous examples of women not having the same rights men do. Duh.

Secondly, it is painfully foolish to pretend that legal rights are the only thing that matters. Black people in the US have had the same legal rights as white people since the mid-1800s. The idea that they have been in no way oppressed or discriminated against between then and now is so transparently stupid that it's frankly embarrassing to have to refute.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Women, especially feminists, don't want to be respected by someone else's standards.

They want to be autonomous and respect because of their humanity, and this overwhelming attitude going on in here that these women were "too radical" or "unjustified" are only perpetuating misogyny and misogyny-apologism.

If an anti-woman meeting is going on at a prominent public university, it is as detestable as if it was an anti-Black meeting or an anti-Jew meeting.

Do not criticize or condescend to these feminist protesters, they were justified. Question the group they were protesting.

Oh I am not saying the MRAs were incorrect, but I myself would have disregarded them as idiots and ignored them, seems to work more nowadays than making such a fuss about it and do what they did.

It's the same as if I was to express my opinion about why I like women who are feminine and a woman would threaten me to kick my ass and expose me as a MRA, what the fuck ever, I am not going to keep on engaging with her and I'll just probably ignore her.

A person's opinions can be stupid, you don't have to act stupid in response to stupid.

[Desperate Measures]

If people want to be respected, they must give respect; it's simple logic.

Remember people, just sit down, don't make a fuss, and when they're ready, I'm SURE they'll let you sit at the front of the bus.

Fuck that noise.

Yeah. That idea is just entirely self-defeating.

[Cosara]

Look around you. Do you see any women having less rights than men do? You don't do you? I know you don't because WOMEN HAVE EVERY RIGHT THAT MEN DO!

... Yes, yes I do.

I see the abuse and the repression of women by men every day here in Florida. I hear about it happening all over the state, all over the country, all over the world.

Name one case of abuse and repression that is not domestic violence. I'll wait.

[Avaerilon]

Some people here seem to believe all MRAs are a bunch of misogynistic, anti-women bigots.While there are indeed some of those unpleasant people who have latched-onto the MRM to spout their hateful views, most MRAs are thoughtful individuals who do not, in any way, hate women or want to oppress them. I believe the equivalent can be said of FRAs too, although it seems there are more misandrists in the FRM than misogynists in the MRM.

I would also like to see evidence that this campus meeting was, in any way, anti-women. Most of the issues being talked about appear to be the lack of support for men who are the victims of violent acts perpetrated by women, among other things. Why should we not support justice for anyone who is the victim of abuse? Granted, men are more likely to cause lasting physical damage- we tend to have more upper-body strength. However, that doesn't make it right that a women can beat a man and get away with it. Men still suffer pain and injuries! Then there is the psychological element of abuse, the effects of which are devastating to either a man or a woman. I could continue.

[The Truth and Light]

... Yes, yes I do.

I see the abuse and the repression of women by men every day here in Florida. I hear about it happening all over the state, all over the country, all over the world.

Name one case of abuse and repression that is not domestic violence. I'll wait.

[Frisivisia]

... Yes, yes I do.

I see the abuse and the repression of women by men every day here in Florida. I hear about it happening all over the state, all over the country, all over the world.

Name one case of abuse and repression that is not domestic violence. I'll wait.

Because domestic violence just doesn't count.

[The Truth and Light]

^Proof that you don't know what you're talking about and you don't know what I know.

Can you source any misogynist literature or clips from the organization in question.

Look at the title of this thread.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Women, especially feminists, don't want to be respected by someone else's standards.

They want to be autonomous and respect because of their humanity, and this overwhelming attitude going on in here that these women were "too radical" or "unjustified" are only perpetuating misogyny and misogyny-apologism.

If an anti-woman meeting is going on at a prominent public university, it is as detestable as if it was an anti-Black meeting or an anti-Jew meeting.

Do not criticize or condescend to these feminist protesters, they were justified. Question the group they were protesting.

Oh I am not saying the MRAs were incorrect, but I myself would have disregarded them as idiots and ignored them, seems to work more nowadays than making such a fuss about it and do what they did.

It's the same as if I was to express my opinion about why Call of Duty sucks ass and a teenage punk would tell me he's going to kick my ass and report me to X organization. What the fuck ever.

A person's opinions can be stupid, you don't have to act stupid in response to stupid.

While I'm not disagreeing that "just ignore the morons" can often be a reasonable response, there's a pretty big difference between "stupid" and "dangerously, hatefully stupid." I don't care if someone comes to my town and advocates that everybody worship a purple squid named Norman by making macaroni art in his honor. Seems dumb to me, sure, but it's essentially harmless. I do care if someone comes to my town and advocates that it's okay to rape women, or beat up black people, or punch Jews in the face, or whatever, because that puts real human beings at increased risk. I think there may be a time and a place to ignore someone advocating rape (or any other form of violence), but there's also a time and a place for shouting that motherfucker down.

[Ostroeuropa]

Can you source any misogynist literature or clips from the organization in question.

Look at the title of this thread.

The thread title is stupid and doesn't effect whether or not the organization is sexist.
I could title a thread "Alien gives speech" and then give a post about Obama, but it wouldn't make him a xenomorph.

[Cosara]

Name one case of abuse and repression that is not domestic violence. I'll wait.

Because domestic violence just doesn't count.

It does not matter how many rights you give women, domestic violence will always be there. These feminists claim that they are being repressed and don't have equal rights. I am asking for ONE case of them not having equal rights and ONE case of them being repressed.

[Cosara]

Look at the title of this thread.

The thread title is stupid and doesn't effect whether or not the organization is sexist.
I could title a thread "Alien gives speech" and then give a post about Obama, but it wouldn't make him a xenomorph.

Exactly.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If people want to be respected, they must give respect; it's simple logic.

Remember people, just sit down, don't make a fuss, and when they're ready, I'm SURE they'll let you sit at the front of the bus.

Fuck that noise.

Sometimes, violence is necessary. But sometimes it isn't.

I am Latino, so I don't have any such "white privilege", if anything I am prone to harsh discrimination by anti-immigration assholes. However, because I am, I don't know, respectful, people tend to make an exception; those why are complete assholes just because I am Latino are not worth my attention. I may argue against it, but they are not worth my attention so much I am going to go and pull this kind of things off on a Neo-Nazi or Anti-Immigration campus meeting.

[Frisivisia]

Because domestic violence just doesn't count.

It does not matter how many rights you give women, domestic violence will always be there. These feminists claim that they are being repressed and don't have equal rights. I am asking for ONE case of them not having equal rights and ONE case of them being repressed.

Maybe the whole "not voting until 1920" thing, or the fact that even now many are hell-bent on making sure women don't have rights to their own bodies.

[Nailed to the Perch]

Because domestic violence just doesn't count.

It does not matter how many rights you give women, domestic violence will always be there. These feminists claim that they are being repressed and don't have equal rights. I am asking for ONE case of them not having equal rights and ONE case of them being repressed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai

I could name several million more, but come ON.

[Frisivisia]

Remember people, just sit down, don't make a fuss, and when they're ready, I'm SURE they'll let you sit at the front of the bus.

Fuck that noise.

Sometimes, violence is necessary. But sometimes it isn't.

I am Latino, so I don't have any such "white privilege", if anything I am prone to harsh discrimination by anti-immigration assholes. However, because I am, I don't know, respectful, people tend to make an exception; those why are complete assholes just because I am Latino are not worth my attention. I may argue against it, but they are not worth my attention so much I am going to go and pull this kind of things off on a Neo-Nazi or Anti-Immigration campus meeting.

What, protesting?

[The Rich Port]

... Yes, yes I do.

I see the abuse and the repression of women by men every day here in Florida. I hear about it happening all over the state, all over the country, all over the world.

Name one case of abuse and repression that is not domestic violence. I'll wait.

... Because domestic violence doesn't count?

Do you need a refresher third grade history course on Women's Suffrage?

The religious theocracies of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Afghanistan?

[Nailed to the Perch]

Also, fuck the absolutely ridiculous, shameful, disgusting implication that domestic violence is just an inevitable fact of life and not a serious social problem that should be addressed. Ugh.