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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:32 am

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And all of it in the service of disrupting somebodies right to assemble. Don't get me wrong, I can see some situations where pulling the fire alarm sans a real fire is a pretty rational thing to do. Like in a school shooting or some shit

Thank you... But these people are just being dicks. Someone who really needed help couldve died indirectly because of this.

The futility of your argument is astounding.
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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:33 am

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Valkmar wrote:Well you know, your only causing the police, and the fire department to be called, and paramedics incase anyones hurt, so now you have a small crowd of people outside ready to help incase of a real fire, but not helping really hurt people, because some little prick thought it would be ok to pull that alarm.

Therefore death. Let's kill everyone who calls 911 unnecessarily. Let's kill anyone who does anything that endangers any safety of anyone because justice. You're backed into a corner, as in Ostro, and you're both arguing this futile "but pulling the fire alarm is dangerous" point because it's all that's left. Give up. You lost.

Oh so now we are at the point of "HEY LOOK, IM GONNA TAKE ANYTHING THAT CAN POSSIBLY BE MORPHED AND INVOLVED INTO THE VALID POINT HE MADE SO I CAN CONTINUE MY ARGUMENT AND FEEL BETTER LOL".. Just no, we are talking about fire alarms that we KNOW were pulled on PURPOSE.
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Postby Xsyne » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:33 am

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Frisivisia wrote:And then establish a totalitarian state, just like 1984!


Certainly not. Orwellian may have connotations, but doesn't imply support for totalitarianism.

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Yes it does.
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Postby Main » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:34 am

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Frisivisia wrote:Therefore death. Let's kill everyone who calls 911 unnecessarily. Let's kill anyone who does anything that endangers any safety of anyone because justice. You're backed into a corner, as in Ostro, and you're both arguing this futile "but pulling the fire alarm is dangerous" point because it's all that's left. Give up. You lost.

Oh so now we are at the point of "HEY LOOK, IM GONNA TAKE ANYTHING THAT CAN POSSIBLY BE MORPHED AND INVOLVED INTO THE VALID POINT HE MADE SO I CAN CONTINUE MY ARGUMENT AND FEEL BETTER LOL".. Just no, we are talking about fire alarms that we KNOW were pulled on PURPOSE.
Why are we talking about them? This is a thread about feminism.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:34 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Therefore death. Let's kill everyone who calls 911 unnecessarily. Let's kill anyone who does anything that endangers any safety of anyone because justice. You're backed into a corner, as in Ostro, and you're both arguing this futile "but pulling the fire alarm is dangerous" point because it's all that's left. Give up. You lost.


No, we're arguing it because you implied it wasn't, and it absolutely is. There is a reason it's against the law. I never advocated the death penalty. I'd go for fines and maybe overnight jail.

I never implied shit. Don't pull fire alarms for no reason. Unfortunately, Valkmar has decided that we should kill these feminists because it's bad to pull the fire alarm for no reason.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:34 am

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Certainly not. Orwellian may have connotations, but doesn't imply support for totalitarianism.

...

Yes it does.

But words mean what Ostroeuropa wants them to mean. Didn't you get the memo?

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:35 am

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Ostroeuropa wrote:
Certainly not. Orwellian may have connotations, but doesn't imply support for totalitarianism.

...

Yes it does.


That was phrased poorly I admit. It may imply totalitarianism, but doesn't necessitate it, especially in the use of language. Certain actions by various news corporations are "Orwellian." as an example
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:35 am

Valkmar wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Therefore death. Let's kill everyone who calls 911 unnecessarily. Let's kill anyone who does anything that endangers any safety of anyone because justice. You're backed into a corner, as in Ostro, and you're both arguing this futile "but pulling the fire alarm is dangerous" point because it's all that's left. Give up. You lost.

Oh so now we are at the point of "HEY LOOK, IM GONNA TAKE ANYTHING THAT CAN POSSIBLY BE MORPHED AND INVOLVED INTO THE VALID POINT HE MADE SO I CAN CONTINUE MY ARGUMENT AND FEEL BETTER LOL".. Just no, we are talking about fire alarms that we KNOW were pulled on PURPOSE.

We're talking about fire alarms now?

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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:35 am

Frisivisia wrote:
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No, we're arguing it because you implied it wasn't, and it absolutely is. There is a reason it's against the law. I never advocated the death penalty. I'd go for fines and maybe overnight jail.

I never implied shit. Don't pull fire alarms for no reason. Unfortunately, Valkmar has decided that we should kill these feminists because it's bad to pull the fire alarm for no reason.

These feminists pulled the fire alarm to get the "Evil Oppresive Men" out of there so they could yell at them face-to-face. The one who pulled the fire-alarm should be fined $500 and left alone past that. No one was hurt.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:35 am

The Truth and Light wrote:
Xsyne wrote:...

Yes it does.

But words mean what Ostroeuropa wants them to mean. Didn't you get the memo?


They mean what they mean, and meaning is determined by majority consensus given that they are, you know, a tool of communication.
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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:36 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
No, we're arguing it because you implied it wasn't, and it absolutely is. There is a reason it's against the law. I never advocated the death penalty. I'd go for fines and maybe overnight jail.

I never implied shit. Don't pull fire alarms for no reason. Unfortunately, Valkmar has decided that we should kill these feminists because it's bad to pull the fire alarm for no reason.

Someone could have used those medical personnel in the case of an actual HEART ATTACK or something, and caused a death because of LACK of personnel. What do we do then hmm? Involuntary manslaughter.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:36 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Xsyne wrote:...

Yes it does.


That was phrased poorly I admit. It may imply totalitarianism, but doesn't necessitate it, especially in the use of language. Certain actions by various news corporations are "Orwellian." as an example

Feminists, however, are not constructing a totalitarian state, or even a totalitarian atmosphere, and it's therefore pretty hard for them to be Orwellian. However, Orwellian is a fun word to throw at anything you disagree with, even when it doesn't apply, isn't it?
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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:37 am

Valkmar wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I never implied shit. Don't pull fire alarms for no reason. Unfortunately, Valkmar has decided that we should kill these feminists because it's bad to pull the fire alarm for no reason.

Someone could have used those medical personnel in the case of an actual HEART ATTACK or something, and caused a death because of LACK of personnel. What do we do then hmm? Involuntary manslaughter.

I am 100% sure the hospital has more than the 1 or 2 ambulences they sent to the source of the fire alarm.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:37 am

Valkmar wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I never implied shit. Don't pull fire alarms for no reason. Unfortunately, Valkmar has decided that we should kill these feminists because it's bad to pull the fire alarm for no reason.

Someone could have used those medical personnel in the case of an actual HEART ATTACK or something, and caused a death because of LACK of personnel. What do we do then hmm? Involuntary manslaughter.

You're arguing that pulling a fire alarm unnecessarily is manslaughter? You understand how stupid and convoluted that is.
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Postby Main » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:38 am

THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT FEMINISM! Not fire alarms or anything else.
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That's a Rick Perry level of unnecessary execution.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:38 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
That was phrased poorly I admit. It may imply totalitarianism, but doesn't necessitate it, especially in the use of language. Certain actions by various news corporations are "Orwellian." as an example

Feminists, however, are notconstructing a totalitarian state, and it's therefore pretty hard for them to be Orwellian. However, Orwellian is a fun word to throw at anything you disagree with, even when it doesn't apply, isn't it?


The term orwellian was explained when I used it. It most definately does fit with twisting the meaning of a word beyond recognition for the purposes of misinformation and propoganda.
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Frisivisia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
That was phrased poorly I admit. It may imply totalitarianism, but doesn't necessitate it, especially in the use of language. Certain actions by various news corporations are "Orwellian." as an example

Feminists, however, are not constructing a totalitarian state, or even a totalitarian atmosphere, and it's therefore pretty hard for them to be Orwellian. However, Orwellian is a fun word to throw at anything you disagree with, even when it doesn't apply, isn't it?


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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:38 am

Cosara wrote:
Valkmar wrote:Someone could have used those medical personnel in the case of an actual HEART ATTACK or something, and caused a death because of LACK of personnel. What do we do then hmm? Involuntary manslaughter.

I am 100% sure the hospital has more than the 1 or 2 ambulences they sent to the source of the fire alarm.

I am talking about the off chance, and the hospital does not have 1 ambulance to every person dude.
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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:38 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Valkmar wrote:Someone could have used those medical personnel in the case of an actual HEART ATTACK or something, and caused a death because of LACK of personnel. What do we do then hmm? Involuntary manslaughter.

You're arguing that pulling a fire alarm unnecessarily is manslaughter? You understand how stupid and convoluted that is.

I'll answer it for him. Very stupid and colvuluted!
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Postby The Truth and Light » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:38 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:But words mean what Ostroeuropa wants them to mean. Didn't you get the memo?


They mean what they mean, and meaning is determined by majority consensuswhatever conveniences me at the time given that they are, you know, a tool of communication.

Fixed.

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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:38 am

Cosara wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I never implied shit. Don't pull fire alarms for no reason. Unfortunately, Valkmar has decided that we should kill these feminists because it's bad to pull the fire alarm for no reason.

These feminists pulled the fire alarm to get the "Evil Oppresive Men" out of there so they could yell at them face-to-face. The one who pulled the fire-alarm should be fined $500 and left alone past that. No one was hurt.

Strawman.

A $500 fine for a fucking fire alarm? Are you insane?
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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:39 am

Main wrote:THIS IS A THREAD ABOUT FEMINISM! Not fire alarms or anything else.

This is a thread on what they did.. and feminism. SO IT INVLOVES FIRE ALARMS GOOD SIR.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:39 am

The Truth and Light wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
They mean what they mean, and meaning is determined by majority consensuswhatever conveniences me at the time given that they are, you know, a tool of communication.

Fixed.


Any source for that? Or is it just more whining on your part.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:39 am

Thank goodness for those radical shit-stains that do nothing but ruin the name of Feminism.

OP, I do hope you do not expect us to believe that ALL feminists are like these extremists.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:39 am

Valkmar wrote:
Cosara wrote:I am 100% sure the hospital has more than the 1 or 2 ambulences they sent to the source of the fire alarm.

I am talking about the off chance, and the hospital does not have 1 ambulance to every person dude.

Therefore, unless you are immediate life-threatening danger, having an ambulance is involuntary manslaughter. Duh.
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