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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:23 am

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Frisivisia wrote:This is a debate forum. My posts are going to be fucking opinionated. And your opinion is inferior to mine, and to Neo's, and to Truth and Light's, as far as I see.

Congratulations, you can use profanity! And if you believe my opinion is inferior to yours, along with the other people i don't really care about, then good job, just another opinion on a opinion.

Opinions are not equal simply because they are all opinions. You do not seem to grasp that. You see, my opinion, and people debating on my side's opinions are better than yours. And I'd like to see you rebut our arguments, rather than screaming about how "WE BoTH HAVE TEH UHPINIONS, SO WE DONNO HOOSE RITE!!!!!!!".
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:23 am

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Frisivisia wrote:Because you haven't given it yet. Obviously if you think other posters should die because they think that women should have equal rights and those equal rights should be protected, then I can't understand how you could have any good opinions.

Congratulations yet again, you've taken what i said out of context.. Good job. I was implying that i believe the feminist sabotaging things and pulling fire alarms like the little children they are should perish. But it's my opinion. And nowhere did i imply NS posters should die... good job.


The fact that you only want people who aren't on NSG to die because you disagree with them doesn't make your view any less terrible.
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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:23 am

Main wrote:
Valkmar wrote:Congratulations yet again, you've taken what i said out of context.. Good job. I was implying that i believe the feminist sabotaging things and pulling fire alarms like the little children they are should perish. But it's my opinion. And nowhere did i imply NS posters should die... good job.

Just give up, everyone on this forum is now against you.

So i should cave in on my views because the majority of people on this thread don't agree with me?
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Postby The Truth and Light » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:24 am

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Main wrote:Just give up, everyone on this forum is now against you.

So i should cave in on my views because the majority of people on this thread don't agree with me?

Dude. You sound like a fucking whiny baby. Stop.

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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:25 am

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Frisivisia wrote:Because you haven't given it yet. Obviously if you think other posters should die because they think that women should have equal rights and those equal rights should be protected, then I can't understand how you could have any good opinions.

Congratulations yet again, you've taken what i said out of context.. Good job. I was implying that i believe the feminist sabotaging things and pulling fire alarms like the little children they are should perish. But it's my opinion. And nowhere did i imply NS posters should die... good job.

Wishing death upon people for pulling fire alarms is generally a dick thing to do.
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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:25 am

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Cosara wrote:How are these feminists right?

How are they wrong? Please rebut.

Because they are massive hypocrits. These are the people who say they want equal rights for all, but when the Men's Rights Activists fight back against their attempts to get men to have mandatory castration or fight back against feminists' attempts to get men genocided to 5% of the population, they go out and say "YOU'RE OPPRESSING US EVEN KNOW WE WANT YOU GENOCIDED TO THE POINT WHERE YOU ARE ONLY 5% OF THE POPULATION!"


I hate third wave feminists. There are still some sane feminists, but the feminist movement has been turned into a female supremist movement. If you support equal rights for all (I mean, really support them), then you're OK, but if you are one of these kind of feminists (the kind of feminists like the ones that protested here), you should be ashamed of yourself.
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Postby Main » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:25 am

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Main wrote:Just give up, everyone on this forum is now against you.

So i should cave in on my views because the majority of people on this thread don't agree with me?

No, you should just stop trying to prove your point to a group of people who honestly do not care what you point is.
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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:25 am

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Valkmar wrote:Congratulations, you can use profanity! And if you believe my opinion is inferior to yours, along with the other people i don't really care about, then good job, just another opinion on a opinion.

Opinions are not equal simply because they are all opinions. You do not seem to grasp that. You see, my opinion, and people debating on my side's opinions are better than yours. And I'd like to see you rebut our arguments, rather than screaming about how "WE BoTH HAVE TEH UHPINIONS, SO WE DONNO HOOSE RITE!!!!!!!".

You THINK yours are better then mine, i don't even claim MINE are better then yours, and i didn't say i don't know whos right, i obviously believe i am right. And i didn't say they are euqal either.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:26 am

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Main wrote:Just give up, everyone on this forum is now against you.

So i should cave in on my views because the majority of people on this thread don't agree with me?


No, you should cave in on your views because "THEY PULLED FIRE ALARM UNNECESSARILY THEREFORE THEY MUST DIE" is not a particularly positive view with which to engage with the rest of humanity.
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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:27 am

Main wrote:
Valkmar wrote:So i should cave in on my views because the majority of people on this thread don't agree with me?

No, you should just stop trying to prove your point to a group of people who honestly do not care what you point is.

You care enough to continuously state how you all think you are right, how i should give up, and how contain inferior opinions.
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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:27 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Valkmar wrote:Congratulations yet again, you've taken what i said out of context.. Good job. I was implying that i believe the feminist sabotaging things and pulling fire alarms like the little children they are should perish. But it's my opinion. And nowhere did i imply NS posters should die... good job.

Wishing death upon people for pulling fire alarms is generally a dick thing to do.

If pulling a fire alarm to get out of class was a capital crime, I'd be on Death Row.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:27 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Valkmar wrote:So i should cave in on my views because the majority of people on this thread don't agree with me?


No, you should cave in on your views because "THEY PULLED FIRE ALARM UNNECESSARILY THEREFORE THEY MUST DIE" is not a particularly positive view with which to engage with the rest of humanity.


Pulling a fire alarm is legitimately serious business. I'm not taking the piss here, despite my wording. :p
Usual reasons. strains the reaction time of the fire department, mobilizes them unnecessarily etc.
It's incredibly reckless, and can lead to unnecessary deaths.
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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:27 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Valkmar wrote:So i should cave in on my views because the majority of people on this thread don't agree with me?


No, you should cave in on your views because "THEY PULLED FIRE ALARM UNNECESSARILY THEREFORE THEY MUST DIE" is not a particularly positive view with which to engage with the rest of humanity.

Your right, maybe my view is a little extreme, but if you eliminate the source of bullshit their is no longer bullshit present.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:28 am

Valkmar wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Opinions are not equal simply because they are all opinions. You do not seem to grasp that. You see, my opinion, and people debating on my side's opinions are better than yours. And I'd like to see you rebut our arguments, rather than screaming about how "WE BoTH HAVE TEH UHPINIONS, SO WE DONNO HOOSE RITE!!!!!!!".

You THINK yours are better then mine, i don't even claim MINE are better then yours, and i didn't say i don't know whos right, i obviously believe i am right. And i didn't say they are euqal either.

You implied that they were equal.

"just another opinion on a opinion."
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Postby Main » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:29 am

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Main wrote:No, you should just stop trying to prove your point to a group of people who honestly do not care what you point is.

You care enough to continuously state how you all think you are right, how i should give up, and how contain inferior opinions.

True...
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Wisconsin9 wrote:I mean, I can understand wanting to deter drug smuggling, but execution is going way too far.

That's a Rick Perry level of unnecessary execution.

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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:29 am

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No, you should cave in on your views because "THEY PULLED FIRE ALARM UNNECESSARILY THEREFORE THEY MUST DIE" is not a particularly positive view with which to engage with the rest of humanity.

Your right, maybe my view is a little extreme, but if you eliminate the source of bullshit their is no longer bullshit present.

There is no "source" of bullshit. That would be like executing all violent criminals to wipe out the "source" of violence.
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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:29 am

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Frisivisia wrote:Wishing death upon people for pulling fire alarms is generally a dick thing to do.

If pulling a fire alarm to get out of class was a capital crime, I'd be on Death Row.

Well you know, your only causing the police, and the fire department to be called, and paramedics incase anyones hurt, so now you have a small crowd of people outside ready to help incase of a real fire, but not helping really hurt people, because some little prick thought it would be ok to pull that alarm.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:30 am

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Cosara wrote:If pulling a fire alarm to get out of class was a capital crime, I'd be on Death Row.

Well you know, your only causing the police, and the fire department to be called, and paramedics incase anyones hurt, so now you have a small crowd of people outside ready to help incase of a real fire, but not helping really hurt people, because some little prick thought it would be ok to pull that alarm.


And all of it in the service of disrupting somebodies right to assemble. Don't get me wrong, I can see some situations where pulling the fire alarm sans a real fire is a pretty rational thing to do. Like in a school shooting or some shit, but people meeting to discuss gender equality outside a feminist perspective isn't an emergency to anyone except these peoples paychecks.
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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:31 am

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Valkmar wrote:You THINK yours are better then mine, i don't even claim MINE are better then yours, and i didn't say i don't know whos right, i obviously believe i am right. And i didn't say they are euqal either.

You implied that they were equal.

"just another opinion on a opinion."

I didn't imply anything, if i thought they were equal, i wouldn't be arguing my viewpoint.. because that would just be a pointless waste of time for me if i think even OPINIONS are equal..
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Postby Main » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:31 am

Frisivisia wrote:There is no "source" of bullshit. That would be like executing all violent criminals to wipe out the "source" of violence.

Well, bulls, for one thing, are a source of bullshit. :p
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That's a Rick Perry level of unnecessary execution.

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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:31 am

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Cosara wrote:If pulling a fire alarm to get out of class was a capital crime, I'd be on Death Row.

Well you know, your only causing the police, and the fire department to be called, and paramedics incase anyones hurt, so now you have a small crowd of people outside ready to help incase of a real fire, but not helping really hurt people, because some little prick thought it would be ok to pull that alarm.

Therefore death. Let's kill everyone who calls 911 unnecessarily. Let's kill anyone who does anything that endangers any safety of anyone because justice. You're backed into a corner, as in Ostro, and you're both arguing this futile "but pulling the fire alarm is dangerous" point because it's all that's left. Give up. You lost.
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Postby Valkmar » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:31 am

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Valkmar wrote:Well you know, your only causing the police, and the fire department to be called, and paramedics incase anyones hurt, so now you have a small crowd of people outside ready to help incase of a real fire, but not helping really hurt people, because some little prick thought it would be ok to pull that alarm.


And all of it in the service of disrupting somebodies right to assemble. Don't get me wrong, I can see some situations where pulling the fire alarm sans a real fire is a pretty rational thing to do. Like in a school shooting or some shit

Thank you... But these people are just being dicks. Someone who really needed help couldve died indirectly because of this.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:32 am

New haven america wrote:Some feminists are just insane. There are the feminists who believe in equal rights(I agree for equal rights for every one) and some just go insane(Save my balls :( )

These are the feminists who give the movement a bad name and image. It's like those one percent outlaw Biker Gangs just not as visible and a lot more vocal.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:32 am

Valkmar wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:You implied that they were equal.

"just another opinion on a opinion."

I didn't imply anything, if i thought they were equal, i wouldn't be arguing my viewpoint.. because that would just be a pointless waste of time for me if i think even OPINIONS are equal..

Then don't complain when I say my opinion is better because you refuse to argue points.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:32 am

Frisivisia wrote:
Valkmar wrote:Well you know, your only causing the police, and the fire department to be called, and paramedics incase anyones hurt, so now you have a small crowd of people outside ready to help incase of a real fire, but not helping really hurt people, because some little prick thought it would be ok to pull that alarm.

Therefore death. Let's kill everyone who calls 911 unnecessarily. Let's kill anyone who does anything that endangers any safety of anyone because justice. You're backed into a corner, as in Ostro, and you're both arguing this futile "but pulling the fire alarm is dangerous" point because it's all that's left. Give up. You lost.


No, we're arguing it because you implied it wasn't, and it absolutely is. There is a reason it's against the law. I never advocated the death penalty. I'd go for fines and maybe overnight jail, unless there is a fire where someone dies, and there is a reasonable suspicion delayed reaction time caused the death. then a murder trial should begin.
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There is an out of control trolley speeding towards Jeremy Bentham, who is tied to the track. You can pull the lever to cause the trolley to switch tracks, but on the other track is Immanuel Kant. Bentham is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Critique of Pure Reason. Kant is clutching the only copy in the universe of The Principles of Moral Legislation. Both men are shouting at you that they have recently started to reconsider their ethical stances.

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