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by Utopialand » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:52 am

by Greed and Death » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:53 am
Gun Manufacturers wrote:It is against federal law for a convicted felon to possess/own firearms, regardless of state laws (18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1)). This is nothing more than an excuse to attack the NRA.


by Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 5:58 am
Utopialand wrote:Letting convicted criminals have guns with them is like handing a bank robber the vault key. You're just ASKING for trouble here.

by Greed and Death » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:01 am

by Samuraikoku » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:02 am
greed and death wrote:The one major flaw in the judges reasoning is you can lose rights as a result of due process of law ( trial by jury in this case).
For instance voting is a right, yet laws that forbid felons from voting have been upheld.

by Hockenberg » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:07 am
Meh, you shouldn't need an excuse to attack them.Gun Manufacturers wrote:It is against federal law for a convicted felon to possess/own firearms, regardless of state laws (18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1)). This is nothing more than an excuse to attack the NRA.

by Fireye » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:13 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Good, after prison the ex-con should be able to have full rights (including voting rights).
The fact they have been released means they are safe to return to society.

by Greed and Death » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:18 am
Fireye wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:Good, after prison the ex-con should be able to have full rights (including voting rights).
The fact they have been released means they are safe to return to society.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha!!!!!!
Have you SEEN our prison system? It's not a rehabilitative system, it's a punitive system, where rehabilitation is optional and rarely sought out.

by Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:23 am
Fireye wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:Good, after prison the ex-con should be able to have full rights (including voting rights).
The fact they have been released means they are safe to return to society.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha!!!!!!
Have you SEEN our prison system? It's not a rehabilitative system, it's a punitive system, where rehabilitation is optional and rarely sought out.

by Jamzmania » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:42 am
Gauthier wrote:Credit goes to Rachel Maddow for bringing this little tidbit to attention.
New Orleans judge rules statute forbidding felons from having firearms unconstitutional after 'fundamental right' amendment
This is not a thread about gun control. What it is about is just how indifferent the NRA is to reality in its dedication to pushing gun sales as high as possible. The Maddow segment on this incident was more detailed and if it ever gets posted online I'll probably edit a link to it, but it mentioned that not only Lousiana Governor Bobby Jindal claimed he had no idea that the amendment would allow felons to own guns after championing it, but a few other states have identical proposals being pushed. Still, the NRA is becoming less and less of a responsible mouthpiece for pro-gun arguments, yet it's allowed to continue being the largest and loudest.
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45

by Choronzon » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:46 am

by Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:49 am
Ifreann wrote:Knox: /ˈɡɪl.ɡə.mɛʃ/

by Great Nepal » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:56 am

by Gravlen » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:00 am
Screensaver wrote:Murderers, rapists, thieves, kidnappers, and thugs owning assault weapons legally. What can possibly go wrong? *sarcasm*

by Alien Space Bats » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:05 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Living in East LA or Detroit without a gun is not smart or safe.

by Screensaver » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:12 am

by Screensaver » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:14 am

by Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:18 am

by Greed and Death » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:21 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Alien Space Bats wrote:I've been to Detroit a great many times unarmed; I'm not at all sure that you need a gun to live there safely.
There are probably a few good pockets left in Detroit and I am sure downtown is heavily policed. I sure would feel better having a gun in my home if somebody broke into my home.

by The United Colonies of Earth » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:23 am

by The Zeonic States » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:24 am

by Cosara » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:28 am
The Zeonic States wrote:I don't see anything wrong with non violent Felons being able to legally purchase and own a Firearm.
My Aunt's Boyfreind is a perfect example of a former gun owner who had to sell his firearms after a conviction for a Monetary related crime.
As for two strike jim who just served a dime for possession and battery? Those folks should not be able to obtain legally a firearm.
But as they say the devil is in the details when it comes such cases.

by Chernoslavia » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:32 pm
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