Thanks to NRA, convicted felons CAN own guns - in LA

[Sibirsky]

What kind of ''convicted'' felons?

What?

Are you implying that not all felonies are the same? And that perhaps in some (non-violent say?) cases gun rights should not be revoked?

[Sibirsky]

Murderers, rapists, thieves, kidnappers, and thugs owning assault weapons legally. What can possibly go wrong? *sarcasm*

[Big Jim P]

I wonder just how many people know that a convicted felon can petition his states governor for a reinstatement of his rights?

Apparently not many.

Really? you honestly believe that most people here haven't heard of a pardon?

Or is the more likely scenario that most people don't waste energy discussing something that, while technically an option, virtually never happens?

Did you really just make this post in some vein effort to have a chance to go "I know something you don't know, nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah" under the bizarre that because most people don't feel the need to waste time by pointing out that while yes, pardons and clemency do exist, they're not worth discussing in any meaningful sense because their success rate is virtually nonexitent, this means that you hold some special secret knowledge that the dirty plebs don't?

How infantile.

You are the best part of being on the day crew. I love the way you seem to target your superiors for your supposedly superior wit.
Your ability to read something into a post that is not there is very impressive as well.

Shit, I gotta see if I can join the Neo Art fan-club.

[Geilinor]

I wonder just how many people know that a convicted felon can petition his states governor for a reinstatement of his rights?

Apparently not many.

Whether rights are reinstated or not is up to the governor. The probability of it happening is very small.

[Geilinor]

What kind of ''convicted'' felons?

What?

Are you implying that not all felonies are the same? And that perhaps in some (non-violent say?) cases gun rights should not be revoked?

In felonies involving firearms, gun rights should be revoked.

[Neo Art]

Shit, I gotta see if I can join the Neo Art fan-club.

Doubtful, it's highly selective.

I love the way you seem to target your superiors

Let me know when one arrives. Might actually make things interesting around here for once.

[Sibirsky]

What?

Are you implying that not all felonies are the same? And that perhaps in some (non-violent say?) cases gun rights should not be revoked?

In felonies involving firearms, gun rights should be revoked.

Your point?

[Big Jim P]

What?

Are you implying that not all felonies are the same? And that perhaps in some (non-violent say?) cases gun rights should not be revoked?

In felonies involving firearms, gun rights should be revoked.

Indeed, and the use of a firearm should double (triple, whatever it takes) the penalty for any given crime. Put the burden for gun crime where it belongs: on the criminal.

[Big Jim P]

Shit, I gotta see if I can join the Neo Art fan-club.

Doubtful, it's highly selective.

I love the way you seem to target your superiors

Let me know when one arrives. Might actually make things interesting around here for once.

I most certainly will, oh master of the useless wit.

[Neo Art]

Let me know when one arrives. Might actually make things interesting around here for once.

I most certainly will

I've been here, what, 6 years? Haven't seen one yet.

I won't hold my breath.

[Norstal]

1) That was... sarcasm.
2) The NRA really isn't helping its PR by doing dumb things that everyone hates.

Care to elaborate on these ''dumb things that everyone hates'' you mentioned? Because last time I checked alot of people DONT want anymore gun control and supporting your rights isnt dumb.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2 ... e-on-games

If you're a true gun-rights activist, you would've stopped supporting the NRA a long time ago.

Really, it's fine to criticize and advocate the removal of gun-control. But the NRA is the PETA of gun-rights movement.

[Big Jim P]

I most certainly will

I've been here, what, 6 years? Haven't seen one yet.

I won't hold my breath.

You would not look good in that shade of blue.

If I must concede any respect to you, it is this: your self-centered arrogance exceeds my own. I never thought I would ever see that especially considering it is at least a full order of magnitude beyond anything I have ever conceived of, and is entirely unwarranted.

[Greed and Death]

Believe it or not, I've only been to Detroit once (other than at the airport terminal).

I was driving a tractor trailer at the time, where you're not allowed to carry firearms.

The yard was fenced, with barbed wire, they had an armed guard on the roof next door with a rifle, and they told me not to leave the yard.

Truckers are not allowed to carry guns?

In jurisdictions where people are not allowed to carry guns yeah, truckers can not carry guns.

There is a lovely federal law allowing transportation through states with gun restrictions if the origin and destination are states that allow that firearm. However, the weapon has to be out of reach and the ammo and gun must be stored in separate containers.

Now if interstates were controlled by the federal government things might be different, but states' power groups wanted management and jurisdiction of highways to be a state affair.

[Norstal]

Credit goes to Rachel Maddow for bringing this little tidbit to attention.

New Orleans judge rules statute forbidding felons from having firearms unconstitutional after 'fundamental right' amendment

This is not a thread about gun control. What it is about is just how indifferent the NRA is to reality in its dedication to pushing gun sales as high as possible. The Maddow segment on this incident was more detailed and if it ever gets posted online I'll probably edit a link to it, but it mentioned that not only Lousiana Governor Bobby Jindal claimed he had no idea that the amendment would allow felons to own guns after championing it, but a few other states have identical proposals being pushed. Still, the NRA is becoming less and less of a responsible mouthpiece for pro-gun arguments, yet it's allowed to continue being the largest and loudest.

I'm not really sure what the amendment the NRA backed has to do with anything in this case, since it says:

In the meantime, prosecutions of felons in possession of a firearm will continue on, said Chris Bowman, spokesman for Orleans Parish District Attorney Leon Cannizzaro.

I guess it can be misinterpreted or it's too broad, but I don't see the relevance here.

[Big Jim P]

Doubtful, it's highly selective.



Let me know when one arrives. Might actually make things interesting around here for once.

this shud b the nu flag 4 ur cuntry

That made no sense, and please learn to type.

[Neo Art]

Doubtful, it's highly selective.



Let me know when one arrives. Might actually make things interesting around here for once.

this shud b the nu flag 4 ur cuntry

Because I'm tough as steel and can in a pinch be used to castrate someone?

Thanks, I guess...

[Greed and Death]

I wonder just how many people know that a convicted felon can petition his states governor for a reinstatement of his rights?

Apparently not many.

Really? you honestly believe that most people here haven't heard of a pardon?

Or is the more likely scenario that most people don't waste energy discussing something that, while technically an option, virtually never happens?

Did you really just make this post in some vein effort to have a chance to go "I know something you don't know, nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah" under the bizarre notion that because most people don't feel the need to waste time by pointing out that while yes, pardons and clemency do exist, they're not worth discussing in any meaningful sense because their success rate is virtually nonexitent, this means that you hold some special secret knowledge that the dirty plebs don't?

How infantile.

If you committed a white collar crime and donated a lot to the governor's campaign pardons are not so hard to get. It does not work for the President, but most of your felons are state criminals.

[Big Jim P]

Truckers are not allowed to carry guns?

In jurisdictions where people are not allowed to carry guns yeah, truckers can not carry guns.

There is a love federal law allowing transportation through states with gun restrictions if the origin and destination are states that allow that firearm. However, the weapon has to be out of reach and the ammo and gun must be stored in separate containers.

Now if interstates were controlled by the federal government things might be different, but states' power groups wanted management and jurisdiction of highways to be a state affair.

I thought they would have to obey they local laws.

[Big Jim P]

Really? you honestly believe that most people here haven't heard of a pardon?

Or is the more likely scenario that most people don't waste energy discussing something that, while technically an option, virtually never happens?

Did you really just make this post in some vein effort to have a chance to go "I know something you don't know, nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah" under the bizarre notion that because most people don't feel the need to waste time by pointing out that while yes, pardons and clemency do exist, they're not worth discussing in any meaningful sense because their success rate is virtually nonexitent, this means that you hold some special secret knowledge that the dirty plebs don't?

How infantile.

If you committed a white collar crime and donated a lot to the governor's campaign pardons are not so hard to get. It does not work for the President, but most of your felons are state criminals.

I did not mention pardons. I mentioned a petition for the reinstatement of rights. Like Neo art posted: a rear occurrence that they would be granted.

[Big Jim P]

Because I'm tough as steel and can in a pinch be used to castrate someone?

Thanks, I guess...

no bcuz u sound lyk a tool

Posted by someone who cannot type.

[Esternial]

no bcuz u sound lyk a tool

Posted by someone who cannot type.

He's imitating Dolan, best not give him more attention than he deserves.

[Greed and Death]

If you committed a white collar crime and donated a lot to the governor's campaign pardons are not so hard to get. It does not work for the President, but most of your felons are state criminals.

I did not mention pardons. I mentioned a petition for the reinstatement of rights. Like Neo art posted: a rear occurrence that they would be granted.

The problem with that is your still a felon, so why the state has restored your rights as far as it is concerned federal law preventing felon ownership of firearms would still be in effect.
Also the petition is a statutory construction of each state, and most of the ones I have read specifically exclude restoration of gun ownership rights.
Mr. Art is right, you would most likely need a pardon to regain your right to bear arms.

[Big Jim P]

Posted by someone who cannot type.

He's imitating Dolan, best not give him more attention than he deserves.

But I need my dumb pets as well as my smart ones.

[Big Jim P]

I did not mention pardons. I mentioned a petition for the reinstatement of rights. Like Neo art posted: a rear occurrence that they would be granted.

The problem with that is your still a felon, so why the state has restored your rights as far as it is concerned federal law preventing felon ownership of firearms would still be in effect.
Also the petition is a statutory construction of each state, and most of the ones I have read specifically exclude restoration of gun ownership rights.
Mr. Art is right, you would most likely need a pardon to regain your right to bear arms.

I understand. I was expanding the voting right (logically but erroneously) to ALL rights.

[Samuraikoku]

READ!

I did read "NRA-backed amendment". Doesn't mean they're responsible for this ruling.