How is "strong atheism" tenable?

[Ashmoria]

i would find your claiming anything about my mother to be no proof whatsoever, positive or negative, about my mother.

since you have no knowledge of my mother.

But that doesn't answer my question. Would you then rule it out completely, would you then positively assume that she certainly did not go to the shops yesterday?

there are, however, things that you might say about the existence of god that would cause me to respect your opinion even if it does not change my view of the non-existence of god.

[Ashmoria]

mom saying its so is reason enough to believe her story.

mom saying god exists, not so much reason to believe.

Ok then. If I said that yesterday (assuming your mother is perfectly healthy etc...) your mother went to the shops (despite me not having any reason to know, thus me claiming not being reason enough to believe it), would you then actively rule it the idea that your mother went to the shops yesterday?

i would find your claiming anything about my mother to be no proof whatsoever, positive or negative, about my mother.

since you have no knowledge of my mother.

Since you assume that he has no knowledge, you mean?

my mom is dead. his saying she did something yesterday is proof that he knows nothing about her.

Ah, as far as you know your mother is dead.

You clearly haven't watched enough conspiracy theory movies. She's actually alive, and a spy... you'll find out all about it in a few years, when you're recruited by a top secret agency, to fight aliens.

sigh

if only

im only now somewhat past the point where i envy those who are only not speaking to their mothers for a few years, where i wish i was fighting with her and could make up and speak to her again.

[Urzamalandi]

I think im going to get a DNA test to prove my mother is my mother now, you're leaving me with too many questions! But then can i believe that DNA is proof.. i need some evidence of that too

Where do we draw the line at proof of something either that it does exist or doesn't?

[Dyakovo]

I think im going to get a DNA test to prove my mother is my mother now, you're leaving me with too many questions! But then can i believe that DNA is proof.. i need some evidence of that too

Where do we draw the line at proof of something either that it does exist or doesn't?

Where ever you are comfortable with drawing the line, just don't expect everyone else to have the line in the same place...

[The Machine Imperium]

For me, there is no 'strong atheism' and 'weak atheism' as they both mean the same thing, you think there are no gods, so you are an atheist. Saying you have a lack of belief in any gods and a belief that there are no gods mean essentially the same exact thing. You say tom-ay-to, I say tom-ah-to (hyphens added for phonetic emphasis).

[Dyakovo]

For me, there is no 'strong atheism' and 'weak atheism' as they both mean the same thing, you think there are no gods, so you are an atheist. Saying you have a lack of belief in any gods and a belief that there are no gods mean essentially the same exact thing. You say tom-ay-to, I say tom-ah-to (hyphens added for phonetic emphasis).

No they don't mean the same thing. A lack of belief and a belief in lack are two different things.