Fill Out the Rape-Report, Then We'll Call the Authorities

[Awesome Break-Away of 250land]

knowing my old school I'd have to say the school is right on this one, most likely it was fake (not this particular case but in general for rape reporting in an intermediate school) especially since the accused rapist wasn't some creepy old man but a fellow student that might of pissed her off.

[Hathradic States]

And when did you go to school? And where?

Maryland, and I graduated in 2006. I will not tell you were in specifics as I have no desire to reveal more information about myself to a stranger.

That's really what I was aiming for. Haha, sorry, sleepy. Shoulda phrased that better.

Anyways, I went to school in Arizona, graduated last year, and everytime something was reported (we never had rape reported, though), we had to fill out paperwork before the police were called.

[Neutraligon]

The school would end up being sued anyway, in this case the school can make the claim that by contacting the authorities, and immediately having the claimant perform a rape kit they were giving responsibility over to the correct people, as they are not equipped to deal with an issue of that magnitude.

Having the students file a report on it makes it all more legitimate for school, as well.

So have them fill out the police report, that should be sufficient for the school. If they must have te school report, have the the police called and while the student's are waiting for the police to arrive, have them fill out the reports. The important part is the police are called immediately.

[Rationallia]

I'm talking from first-hand experience of my everyday life and that of my friends who also go to different schools, so sorry not sauce for you. Eat it bland.And I don't think you understand the problems that would occur if every single case that was not serious was reported. The police would be contacted literally every day.

You have no proof of this and anecdotes do not equal data. So you are saying that students in your school go to the administrations or a teacher daily and claim they are raped? Sorry if I don't believe you. If that is true, than the students in that school need a serious lesson in the importance of how wrong that is.

No I am not saying that. You have misconstrued my argument. Chances are your going to continue to do this all night so I'm going to stop discussing this with you now.

[Nadkor]

...most likely it was fake (not this particular case but in general for rape reporting in an intermediate school) especially since the accused rapist wasn't some creepy old man but a fellow student...

Remember, folks - there's absolutely no need whatsoever to teach anybody about rape.

[Neutraligon]

Maryland, and I graduated in 2006. I will not tell you were in specifics as I have no desire to reveal more information about myself to a stranger.

That's really what I was aiming for. Haha, sorry, sleepy. Shoulda phrased that better.

Anyways, I went to school in Arizona, graduated last year, and everytime something was reported (we never had rape reported, though), we had to fill out paperwork before the police were called.

Are you talking about things like theft? I have reported issues to the school, specifically I have reported someone who told me they were planning on committing suicide. The police were immediately called in, as well as a few other people. Things like suicide, rape, murder, arson, and any other serious crime were taken very seriously in my school. Similarly, intentional false reporting was also taken very seriously.

[Hathradic States]

That's really what I was aiming for. Haha, sorry, sleepy. Shoulda phrased that better.

Anyways, I went to school in Arizona, graduated last year, and everytime something was reported (we never had rape reported, though), we had to fill out paperwork before the police were called.

Are you talking about things like theft? I have reported issues to the school, specifically I have reported someone who told me they were planning on committing suicide. The police were immediately called in, as well as a few other people. Things like suicide, rape, murder, arson, and any other serious crime were taken very seriously in my school. Similarly, intentional false reporting was also taken very seriously.

We never had much a theft problem, it was more fights/violence. You went to the office, filled out a report, police were called.

[Neutraligon]

You have no proof of this and anecdotes do not equal data. So you are saying that students in your school go to the administrations or a teacher daily and claim they are raped? Sorry if I don't believe you. If that is true, than the students in that school need a serious lesson in the importance of how wrong that is.

No I am not saying that. You have misconstrued my argument. Chances are your going to continue to do this all night so I'm going to stop discussing this with you now.

Then tell me how I misconstrued your argument. You claimed that if students took the accusation of rape seriously, that the police would be called in daily. When I say accusation of rape I don't mean little shits joking about being raped, I mean students who go to a school official, whether a teacher or someone in the administration or the nurse, and claim they were raped.

[Kinzar]

They, of course, dropped the ball with this incident. But the simple fact that a middle school doesn't have a nurse to begin with just doesn't seem right.

[Neutraligon]

Are you talking about things like theft? I have reported issues to the school, specifically I have reported someone who told me they were planning on committing suicide. The police were immediately called in, as well as a few other people. Things like suicide, rape, murder, arson, and any other serious crime were taken very seriously in my school. Similarly, intentional false reporting was also taken very seriously.

We never had much a theft problem, it was more fights/violence. You went to the office, filled out a report, police were called.

For an issue of a fight, police were called in right away as well (though these were uncommon in my school).

[Awesome Break-Away of 250land]

...most likely it was fake (not this particular case but in general for rape reporting in an intermediate school) especially since the accused rapist wasn't some creepy old man but a fellow student...

Remember, folks - there's absolutely no need whatsoever to teach anybody about rape.

Are you accusing me or agreeing? (I feel like a massive foreigner right now *nervous, accented laughter*)

[Hathradic States]

We never had much a theft problem, it was more fights/violence. You went to the office, filled out a report, police were called.

For an issue of a fight, police were called in right away as well (though these were uncommon in my school).

Most of them didn't happen where teachers or cameras were seen. And only a damn fool reported them.

[Neutraligon]

For an issue of a fight, police were called in right away as well (though these were uncommon in my school).

Most of them didn't happen where teachers or cameras were seen. And only a damn fool reported them.

Then how would a report be filed in the first place? I was pretty lucky in my school in that fights were very uncommon, and were reported quickly if they happened.

[Nadkor]

Remember, folks - there's absolutely no need whatsoever to teach anybody about rape.

Are you accusing me or agreeing? (I feel like a massive foreigner right now *nervous, accented laughter*)

No...it's a reference to a thread we had a few weeks back in which a great many people disagreed really quite vehemently with a claim that, perhaps, we could do with educating people a bit about rape.

Your assertion that the accused not being "some creepy old man" lessens the possibility that a rape report was honest serves as a demonstration of precisely why such education is needed.

[Neutraligon]

Remember, folks - there's absolutely no need whatsoever to teach anybody about rape.

Are you accusing me or agreeing? (I feel like a massive foreigner right now *nervous, accented laughter*)

I hope you were being sarcastic in your original post. You are aware that most rape victims know their rapist, that stranger rape is a less common form of rape, right?

[Hathradic States]

Most of them didn't happen where teachers or cameras were seen. And only a damn fool reported them.

Then how would a report be filed in the first place? I was pretty lucky in my school in that fights were very uncommon, and were reported quickly if they happened.

You'd go and talk to a teacher about it, then file a report on it. However, that wasn't always the best idea, depending on who was reporting.

[Neutraligon]

Then how would a report be filed in the first place? I was pretty lucky in my school in that fights were very uncommon, and were reported quickly if they happened.

You'd go and talk to a teacher about it, then file a report on it. However, that wasn't always the best idea, depending on who was reporting.

If it was that dangerous your school had issues they really needed to work out.

[Hathradic States]

You'd go and talk to a teacher about it, then file a report on it. However, that wasn't always the best idea, depending on who was reporting.

If it was that dangerous your school had issues they really needed to work out.

We had issues between ethnic groups back then. It got better and resolved later on.

[Awesome Break-Away of 250land]

Are you accusing me or agreeing? (I feel like a massive foreigner right now *nervous, accented laughter*)

I hope you were being sarcastic in your original post. You are aware that most rape victims know their rapist, that stranger rape is a less common form of rape, right?

But the school doesn't think that, they think your being a little shit.

[Awesome Break-Away of 250land]

Are you accusing me or agreeing? (I feel like a massive foreigner right now *nervous, accented laughter*)

No...it's a reference to a thread we had a few weeks back in which a great many people disagreed really quite vehemently with a claim that, perhaps, we could do with educating people a bit about rape.

Your assertion that the accused not being "some creepy old man" lessens the possibility that a rape report was honest serves as a demonstration of precisely why such education is needed.

*phew*

Thank you, I was just about to say that education is definitely the way to go before reading the rest of your post

[Neutraligon]

I hope you were being sarcastic in your original post. You are aware that most rape victims know their rapist, that stranger rape is a less common form of rape, right?

But the school doesn't think that, they think your being a little shit.

Only if you don't make a claim directly to a teacher. Once an accusation has been made, they need to take it seriously.

[Gauthier]

Are you accusing me or agreeing? (I feel like a massive foreigner right now *nervous, accented laughter*)

No...it's a reference to a thread we had a few weeks back in which a great many people disagreed really quite vehemently with a claim that, perhaps, we could do with educating people a bit about rape.

Your assertion that the accused not being "some creepy old man" lessens the possibility that a rape report was honest serves as a demonstration of precisely why such education is needed.

Besides if she ends up pregnant then we know she wasn't really raped. [/toddakin]

[Awesome Break-Away of 250land]

But the school doesn't think that, they think your being a little shit.

Only if you don't make a claim directly to a teacher. Once an accusation has been made, they need to take it seriously.

And if filling out forms is the schools' way of doing it then fair. While saying that, If the victim has been obviously raped by someone then the police/ambulance needs to be called.

[Awesome Break-Away of 250land]

No...it's a reference to a thread we had a few weeks back in which a great many people disagreed really quite vehemently with a claim that, perhaps, we could do with educating people a bit about rape.

Your assertion that the accused not being "some creepy old man" lessens the possibility that a rape report was honest serves as a demonstration of precisely why such education is needed.

Besides if she ends up pregnant then we know she wasn't really raped. [/toddakin]

real slick

[Neutraligon]

Only if you don't make a claim directly to a teacher. Once an accusation has been made, they need to take it seriously.

And if filling out forms is the schools' way of doing it then fair. While saying that, If the victim has been obviously raped by someone then the police/ambulance needs to be called.

No, the police need to be called so they can find evidence and determine if the suspect should be put n trial. The school should not be the people to decide whether they think something has happened. If the school want to students to fill out a form in addition to whatever the police want, then fine, but the purpose of the police is to investigate these types of claims. let them do their job.