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Opinion of the NSG Senate?

Good idea, I'll be a big part of it.
19
30%
Good idea, I'll be a small part of it.
18
28%
Good idea, I might check in sometimes.
9
14%
Good idea, but I'll never participate.
2
3%
Meh.
5
8%
Bad idea, and I'll never participate.
4
6%
Bad idea, but I might check in sometimes.
2
3%
Bad idea, but I'll probably be a small part of it.
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No votes
Bad idea, COUNT ME IN!
5
8%
 
Total votes : 64

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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:18 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:There would likely be some sort of coalition system with all the parties. Left v. Right, Authoritarian v. Libertarian, etc.


That'd be interesting. I'd be at a terrible disadvantage, I won't find a safe spot easily due to my quirky views.

Likely, the Left will break up due to its enormous girth on NSG. Communists, Left-Capitalists maybe. You'll find a place somewhere. It'll be interesting to see how that shakes out.
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Postby The God-Realm » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:18 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:There would likely be some sort of coalition system with all the parties. Left v. Right, Authoritarian v. Libertarian, etc.


That'd be interesting. I'd be at a terrible disadvantage, I won't find a safe spot easily due to my quirky views.

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Auriga
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Postby Auriga » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:19 pm

This is a very interesting idea and I am in full support of it.

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Postby TaQud » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:19 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
TaQud wrote:what if you are centrist/moderate? :unsure:

Pick a side and moderate them (Join us on the left, TaQud :) ).

hmm which side to pick.... (or maybe independent like Lieberman is..)
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Postby TaQud » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:20 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
That'd be interesting. I'd be at a terrible disadvantage, I won't find a safe spot easily due to my quirky views.

Join my coalition: Unusual Views Party.

Now That I would join. :)
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Postby Auriga » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:21 pm

The God-Realm wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
That'd be interesting. I'd be at a terrible disadvantage, I won't find a safe spot easily due to my quirky views.

Join my coalition: Unusual Views Party.


Wouldn't that be difficult to manage since some of the unusual views would contradict other unusual views?

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United Provinces of Atlantica
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:21 pm

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United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
I have already made a suggestion. Please read it first: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=234745&p=13779759#p13779759


Yeah, I saw it. It's a great system for government, but a bit complicated for two threads in a forum.


Yeah. That's the worst part of it: The complicity. Shall we at least have Direct Proportional Representation?
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Postby Earth Empire » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:21 pm

Sounds cool.
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:21 pm

TaQud wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Join my coalition: Unusual Views Party.

Now That I would join. :)

You're not unusual, you're worth a few refined at best :p . Join my Left-Capitalist Social Justice Bonobo Hasselhoff Party.
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Postby The God-Realm » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:21 pm

Auriga wrote:
The God-Realm wrote:Join my coalition: Unusual Views Party.


Wouldn't that be difficult to manage since some of the unusual views would contradict other unusual views?

Yeah...

I will just join the communists.
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The God-Realm wrote:No

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Postby Denecaep » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:22 pm

I'm thinking there will be an opportunity for anyone to create a party assuming they get a certain amount of "signatures" (perhaps four or five other people that have agreed to endorse the party).
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:22 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
TaQud wrote:Now That I would join. :)

You're not unusual, you're worth a few refined at best :p . Join my Left-Capitalist Social Justice Bonobo Hasselhoff Party.


I would join the Left-Capitalist Social Justice Bonobo Hasselhoff Party, but I recommend you rename it the Social Democratic Party, or Progressive Party.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:23 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
That'd be interesting. I'd be at a terrible disadvantage, I won't find a safe spot easily due to my quirky views.

Likely, the Left will break up due to its enormous girth on NSG. Communists, Left-Capitalists maybe. You'll find a place somewhere. It'll be interesting to see how that shakes out.

I'm pretty sure the Democratic Socialists and Social Democrats will have tension. So with the Fascists and Nazis.

Unless there are alot more conservative market socialists on here, I'm fucked.
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Postby Denecaep » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:23 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
Denecaep wrote:
Yeah, I saw it. It's a great system for government, but a bit complicated for two threads in a forum.


Yeah. That's the worst part of it: The complicity. Shall we at least have Direct Proportional Representation?


Well, like I implied in the OP, it is probably just going to be a case of: if you want to be in it, and you've been a member for at least a month, you can be a senator. Elections wouldn't work well.
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:24 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:You're not unusual, you're worth a few refined at best :p . Join my Left-Capitalist Social Justice Bonobo Hasselhoff Party.


I would join the Left-Capitalist Social Justice Bonobo Hasselhoff Party, but I recommend you rename it the Social Democratic Party, or Progressive Party.

I like Progressive Party. I'm officially founding it, with me as its leader. Anyone interested in joining, I'm accepting, provided your views match up with those of the party.
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Postby Auriga » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:24 pm

Denecaep wrote:I'm thinking there will be an opportunity for anyone to create a party assuming they get a certain amount of "signatures" (perhaps four or five other people that have agreed to endorse the party).


Are you suggesting that we may end up with a large amount of useless and senseless parties? Such as the "Hey, endorse this!" Party. Because, I assure you, that would not happen. *sarcasm intended*

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Postby The God-Realm » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:24 pm

Denecaep wrote:I'm thinking there will be an opportunity for anyone to create a party assuming they get a certain amount of "signatures" (perhaps four or five other people that have agreed to endorse the party).

Won't work, we might as wellmake Nightkill the Popular Dear Leader.
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The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:25 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
I would join the Left-Capitalist Social Justice Bonobo Hasselhoff Party, but I recommend you rename it the Social Democratic Party, or Progressive Party.

I like Progressive Party. I'm officially founding it, with me as its leader.


I proclaim myself to be Progressive Party Deputy Leader, to at least running for Progressive Party Deputy Leader.
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Postby Denecaep » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:25 pm

Auriga wrote:
Denecaep wrote:I'm thinking there will be an opportunity for anyone to create a party assuming they get a certain amount of "signatures" (perhaps four or five other people that have agreed to endorse the party).


Are you suggesting that we may end up with a large amount of useless and senseless parties? Such as the "Hey, endorse this!" Party. Because, I assure you, that would not happen. *sarcasm intended*


It's possible. It apparently happened with the NSG Parliament. Nonetheless, hopefully people will realize that there is strength in numbers. Being part of a larger political party is more advantageous.
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:27 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:I like Progressive Party. I'm officially founding it, with me as its leader.


I proclaim myself to be Progressive Party Deputy Leader, to at least running for Progressive Party Deputy Leader.

Well, as leader of the party, I'd like to know your views, at least.
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Postby The God-Realm » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:27 pm

I am starting the Communist Party.
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The God-Realm wrote:No

people who qq over losing a gf over a small penis size are insecure and need to check themselves

Before they wreck themselves?

Or their ex' car.

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Postby The Grim Reaper » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:28 pm

Put me down as the token single-issue senator.

Freedom of information! Copyright is too damn restrictive! etc. etc.!
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Postby Auriga » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:28 pm

Denecaep wrote:
Auriga wrote:
Are you suggesting that we may end up with a large amount of useless and senseless parties? Such as the "Hey, endorse this!" Party. Because, I assure you, that would not happen. *sarcasm intended*


It's possible. It apparently happened with the NSG Parliament. Nonetheless, hopefully people will realize that there is strength in numbers. Being part of a larger political party is more advantageous.


Very true, there is a lot of power in numbers. But, I feel that it would also be in the best interests of the NSG Senate to establish ways in which to prevent to constant formation of useless parties; or, at least, prevent them from clogging up the works.

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Postby The Grim Reaper » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:30 pm

I intend to start a coalition of independent senators to organize a larger, broader movement to curb the power of larger main parties in the general interests of the senate.

Beyond that, of course, members will be allowed to vote as they see fit.
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:30 pm

The Grim Reaper wrote:I intend to start a coalition of independent senators to organize a larger, broader movement to curb the power of larger main parties in the general interests of the senate.

Beyond that, of course, members will be allowed to vote as they see fit.

So your coalition to curb the power of other coalitions will vote as they please? You understand how goddamn stupid that is.
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