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Opinion of the NSG Senate?

Good idea, I'll be a big part of it.
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30%
Good idea, I'll be a small part of it.
18
28%
Good idea, I might check in sometimes.
9
14%
Good idea, but I'll never participate.
2
3%
Meh.
5
8%
Bad idea, and I'll never participate.
4
6%
Bad idea, but I might check in sometimes.
2
3%
Bad idea, but I'll probably be a small part of it.
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No votes
Bad idea, COUNT ME IN!
5
8%
 
Total votes : 64

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Denecaep
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Postby Denecaep » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:31 pm

Auriga wrote:
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It's possible. It apparently happened with the NSG Parliament. Nonetheless, hopefully people will realize that there is strength in numbers. Being part of a larger political party is more advantageous.


Very true, there is a lot of power in numbers. But, I feel that it would also be in the best interests of the NSG Senate to establish ways in which to prevent to constant formation of useless parties; or, at least, prevent them from clogging up the works.


That's why the formation of a party would require at least five people. It doesn't seem like much, but it is surprisingly difficult, probably.
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United Provinces of Atlantica
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:31 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
I proclaim myself to be Progressive Party Deputy Leader, to at least running for Progressive Party Deputy Leader.

Well, as leader of the party, I'd like to know your views, at least.


I am a Democratic Socialist, who supports Universal Healthcare, Universal Education, Gay Marriage, Pro-Choice movements, and unions (to some extent). My views are mostly that of my country. I also believe that the death penalty is evil, and now of the worst violations of Human Rights.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:31 pm

Denecaep wrote:
Auriga wrote:
Are you suggesting that we may end up with a large amount of useless and senseless parties? Such as the "Hey, endorse this!" Party. Because, I assure you, that would not happen. *sarcasm intended*


It's possible. It apparently happened with the NSG Parliament. Nonetheless, hopefully people will realize that there is strength in numbers. Being part of a larger political party is more advantageous.

Like Fris said, there will most like likely be coalitions eventually. The individual parties won't be that influential other tan coalition infighting.

But I'm probably gonna start my own party as well, I'm confident I have enough supporters to at least maintain a small party.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:31 pm

I'd join
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Postby Aeken » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:32 pm

I'd like to be apart of it, probably not as vocal as others but still contributing.

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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:32 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Well, as leader of the party, I'd like to know your views, at least.


I am a Democratic Socialist, who supports Universal Healthcare, Universal Education, Gay Marriage, Pro-Choice movements, and unions (to some extent). My views are mostly that of my country. I also believe that the death penalty is evil, and now of the worst violations of Human Rights.

That works for me, consider yourself in the party.

EDIT: Shall I keep a list of members in my sig? It would likely be helpful and help advertise the party.
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Postby Auriga » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:34 pm

The Grim Reaper wrote:I intend to start a coalition of independent senators to organize a larger, broader movement to curb the power of larger main parties in the general interests of the senate.

Beyond that, of course, members will be allowed to vote as they see fit.


You have a very good point; there is danger in having a few large political parties that run everything. But there is also danger in having too many parties.

In fact, there's danger in having parties at all. In many cases people begin voting in favor of their parties rather than in the best interests of everyone as a whole. I wonder where we have seen that before.

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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:34 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
I am a Democratic Socialist, who supports Universal Healthcare, Universal Education, Gay Marriage, Pro-Choice movements, and unions (to some extent). My views are mostly that of my country. I also believe that the death penalty is evil, and now of the worst violations of Human Rights.

That works for me, consider yourself in the party.

EDIT: Shall I keep a list of members in my sig? It would likely be helpful and help advertise the party.


1 - Thank you. I shall work on making our party an official one straightaway.

2 - That is a very good idea. I shall also try to put it on my sig.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:35 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:I intend to start a coalition of independent senators to organize a larger, broader movement to curb the power of larger main parties in the general interests of the senate.

Beyond that, of course, members will be allowed to vote as they see fit.

So your coalition to curb the power of other coalitions will vote as they please? You understand how goddamn stupid that is.

This

A coalition of independent senators would either end up functioning like a pseudo-party itself or it'd just collapse.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:37 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:I intend to start a coalition of independent senators to organize a larger, broader movement to curb the power of larger main parties in the general interests of the senate.

Beyond that, of course, members will be allowed to vote as they see fit.

So your coalition to curb the power of other coalitions will vote as they please? You understand how goddamn stupid that is.


EXACTLY.
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:40 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:That works for me, consider yourself in the party.

EDIT: Shall I keep a list of members in my sig? It would likely be helpful and help advertise the party.


1 - Thank you. I shall work on making our party an official one straightaway.

2 - That is a very good idea. I shall also try to put it on my sig.

It's done. Check it.
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Postby Silent Majority » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:42 pm

Seems intriguing
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Postby Thafoo » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:43 pm

Sure, why the hell not.

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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:44 pm

Thafoo wrote:Sure, why the hell not.

Would you be at all interested in my Progressive Party?
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Postby Evraim » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:44 pm

United Kingdom of Muffins wrote:
Evraim wrote:I suppose I shall march on Rome with eight legions to depose you and save the Republic. Of course, they'll need more fabulous uniforms first...


What of Sulla? And Catiline?

Sulla's rule 82 BC-81 BC. Catiline from what I understand never had the office of dictator, only consul.

I see. I really ought to review my Roman history. I think you're correct about Catiline, though I'm not certain if he actually ever served as Consul.

I suppose I'll found the Monster Raving Looney Party or the Jewish People's Fascist Anarchist Green Corporatist Conservative Progressive Party of Lesotho. We shall become the most successful political faction ever.
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Postby TaQud » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:44 pm

I wonder if there could be the No Party Party. :unsure:
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Postby Thafoo » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:45 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Thafoo wrote:Sure, why the hell not.

Would you be at all interested in my Progressive Party?

Tell me more, I like the sound of it.

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Postby Gothmogs » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:45 pm

I like this idea. Another distraction from my schoolwork. ;)
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Postby Auriga » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:45 pm

I find it intriguing how this NSG Senate hasn't even been formed yet and people are already trying to gain support for their political parties.

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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:46 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:I'd join


Would you be at all interested in joining the Progressive Party?
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:47 pm

Auriga wrote:I find it intriguing how this NSG Senate hasn't even been formed yet and people are already trying to gain support for their political parties.

Early bird catches the worm.
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:47 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Would you be at all interested in my Progressive Party?

Tell me more, I like the sound of it.

It's everything you think. We're a party dedicated to Progressive Ideals like economic regulation, progressive taxation with a higher focus on the wealthy, a healthy, functioning welfare state. We also further socially libertarian values on gay marriage (legal), marijuana (legal), and civil liberties.
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Postby Evraim » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:50 pm

Auriga wrote:I find it intriguing how this NSG Senate hasn't even been formed yet and people are already trying to gain support for their political parties.

The Jewish People's Fascist Anarchist Green Corporatist Conservative Progressive Party of Lesotho opposes this phenomenon. If you sympathize with our position on this policy issue, you might be interested in becoming a member of our organization.

Frisivisia wrote:It's everything you think. We're a party dedicated to Progressive Ideals like economic regulation, progressive taxation with a higher focus on the wealthy, a healthy, functioning welfare state. We also further socially libertarian values on gay marriage (legal), marijuana (legal), and civil liberties.

But do you support free beer?
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:56 pm

I want to make a party but I don't know what name would best suit the image I want. :(
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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:56 pm

Evraim wrote:
Auriga wrote:I find it intriguing how this NSG Senate hasn't even been formed yet and people are already trying to gain support for their political parties.

The Jewish People's Fascist Anarchist Green Corporatist Conservative Progressive Party of Lesotho opposes this phenomenon. If you sympathize with our position on this policy issue, you might be interested in becoming a member of our organization.

Frisivisia wrote:It's everything you think. We're a party dedicated to Progressive Ideals like economic regulation, progressive taxation with a higher focus on the wealthy, a healthy, functioning welfare state. We also further socially libertarian values on gay marriage (legal), marijuana (legal), and civil liberties.

But do you support free beer?

We support free beer day, one day a year where each citizen of the legal drinking age gets one free beer, courtesy of the government.
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