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Allbeama
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Postby Allbeama » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:32 am

Maurepas wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Barringtonia wrote:To be honest, if someone's failed something 949 times, I'm just not sure I'd grant anything despite success on the 950th attempt.

I mean, statistically it could almost be pure luck.


Quite.

Anyway, the exam fees are waaayyy too low. Here in Italy we pay 600 € minimum for two attempts at the written exam. Fail both, pay again. Btw, and you have to pass both written and practice within 6 months.

Damn! :shock:

I wanna say ours was like, $5?

I think so... maybe a bit more or less, depending on the state.
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Lucky Bicycle Works
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Postby Lucky Bicycle Works » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:40 am

No. There should be a limit.

If a person wants to spend most of their adult life trying and trying again to get a good mark in their high-school graduation, the harm is limited. Someone employs them for that good mark, assuming they took the test a bit later in life than others ... the harm is limited, because despite the qualification, the employer presumably checks that they're doing the job competently before letting them operate heavy machinery which could harm others, take critical decisions with irreversible consequences ... hell, whatever bad things can happen from someone being certified for something they can barely do. What they can only do after long long practice and presumably ongoing instruction.

Instruction? Hell, yeah. Probably hundreds of driving inspectors have given the candidate advice. Along the lines of "Stop! Stop, for fuck's sake! That's a fucking truck, and that there is a red light! I'm getting out now, and here is ten thousand yen for a taxi home."

Honestly, she's got to be farting around somehow. She's taking that test again and again to prove something to herself, not to get a license so she can drive.

I can only hope that having proven that point, she now gives up driving. Such a frivolous attitude towards the control of a machine which can easily kill other people is nothing less than negligence. She is not competent to drive.

Good on her. She passed the test. Time to walk away.
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Postby Lucky Bicycle Works » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:49 am

Omnicracy wrote:Do any of us know how there driving test works? For example, if its ten thousand questions randomly selected from 1 billion, then trying to pass just by taking the test over and over would concivibly take that many times.


"Their" has an I in it. "There" has "here" in it. This might help you remember.

It is better to put i before e, even if you get it wrong, than to be certainly wrong by dropping the e (as in "concivibly" ... conceivably as you meant.)

Your maths is so horrifically wrong that I won't even try to correct it.

Stay in school. You need it.
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Postby The Infinite Dunes » Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:44 am

Risottia wrote:
Barringtonia wrote:To be honest, if someone's failed something 949 times, I'm just not sure I'd grant anything despite success on the 950th attempt.

I mean, statistically it could almost be pure luck.


Quite.

Anyway, the exam fees are waaayyy too low. Here in Italy we pay 600 € minimum for two attempts at the written exam. Fail both, pay again. Btw, and you have to pass both written and practice within 6 months.
Sounds like the Italian government is trying to create extra revenue rather than trying to make sure everyone behind the wheel meets minimum standards.

But then I think theory tests are a load of bollocks. I almost fell asleep during the hazard perception test. If you're sitting there just looking at a screen with no other feedback then I just switch into passenger mode and stop paying attention. If I have sound, a wheel and pedals then I'm much more alert. So I won't judge her for failing.

And the theory questions are just as retarded:
1 Your mobile phone rings while you are travelling. You should
Mark one answer.

Stop immediately
Answer it immediately
Pull up in a suitable place
Pull up at the nearest curb

3 In which of these situations should you avoid overtaking?
Mark one answer

Just after a bend
In a one-way street
On a 30 mph road
Approaching a dip in the road

15 You are driving along a country road. A horse and rider are approaching. What should you do?
Mark two answers.

Increase your speed
Sound your horn
Flash your headlights
Drive slowly past
Give plenty of room
Rev your engine

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ChengISao
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Postby ChengISao » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:00 am

Go Granny!!!!! Give em hell darlin!!!!!!!!! :clap:

Gotta love her fortitude! 8)
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Postby Non Aligned States » Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:00 am

Lucky Bicycle Works wrote:Instruction? Hell, yeah. Probably hundreds of driving inspectors have given the candidate advice. Along the lines of "Stop! Stop, for fuck's sake! That's a fucking truck, and that there is a red light! I'm getting out now, and here is ten thousand yen for a taxi home."


It's Korea, so it's not Yen but Won.

Lucky Bicycle Works wrote:Honestly, she's got to be farting around somehow. She's taking that test again and again to prove something to herself, not to get a license so she can drive.


Or tests poorly when it comes to academics. Though I wonder how successful a vegetable business she could run be when she's testing on a near daily basis.

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Postby Lucky Bicycle Works » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:15 am

Non Aligned States wrote:
Lucky Bicycle Works wrote:Instruction? Hell, yeah. Probably hundreds of driving inspectors have given the candidate advice. Along the lines of "Stop! Stop, for fuck's sake! That's a fucking truck, and that there is a red light! I'm getting out now, and here is ten thousand yen for a taxi home."


It's Korea, so it's not Yen but Won.


I call "uncle!" on that.

Better than being called for mistaking the written test for the practical test. Which is a mistake that I did make.

Lucky Bicycle Works wrote:Honestly, she's got to be farting around somehow. She's taking that test again and again to prove something to herself, not to get a license so she can drive.


Or tests poorly when it comes to academics. Though I wonder how successful a vegetable business she could run be when she's testing on a near daily basis.


I'm not sure I get that. A vegetable business doesn't involve the immediate peril to other's lives of a bad decision, which driving a car does.

However, you get credit for winning the previous point, and the relevance of "academics" to that point suggests that you may be gently mocking me on this second point.

Really don't get the "vegetable business" angle.

Anyway, points well won. I should be more-often so punished for my rambling.
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Oh, trucks and beers and memories
All spread out on the road.
Oh, my town is a leader of children,
To where Caution
Is a Long Wide Load"

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:05 am

The Infinite Dunes wrote:Sounds like the Italian government is trying to create extra revenue rather than trying to make sure everyone behind the wheel meets minimum standards.

But then I think theory tests are a load of bollocks. I almost fell asleep during the hazard perception test. If you're sitting there just looking at a screen with no other feedback then I just switch into passenger mode and stop paying attention. If I have sound, a wheel and pedals then I'm much more alert. So I won't judge her for failing.

And the theory questions are just as retarded:
1 Your mobile phone rings while you are travelling. You should
Mark one answer.

Stop immediately
Answer it immediately
Pull up in a suitable place
Pull up at the nearest curb

3 In which of these situations should you avoid overtaking?
Mark one answer

Just after a bend
In a one-way street
On a 30 mph road
Approaching a dip in the road

15 You are driving along a country road. A horse and rider are approaching. What should you do?
Mark two answers.

Increase your speed
Sound your horn
Flash your headlights
Drive slowly past
Give plenty of room
Rev your engine

I agree one of the questions (the mobile one) must have been overkill (Pull up in a suitable place). otherwise the other two are actually there for a reason, as to prevent head on collisions (dip on road) and giving horses a shock (drive slowly past).

Risottia wrote:Quite.

Anyway, the exam fees are waaayyy too low. Here in Italy we pay 600 € minimum for two attempts at the written exam. Fail both, pay again. Btw, and you have to pass both written and practice within 6 months.

€600? In my opinion that's wayyy expensive. I tend to think that theory tests should be public curriculum, as pedestrians use the public highway.

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Postby Inchland » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:21 am

Was she... retarded?
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Postby JuNii » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:35 am

1 Your mobile phone rings while you are travelling. You should
Mark one answer.

Stop immediately
Answer it immediately
Pull up in a suitable place
Pull up at the nearest curb

none of the above. in Hawaii, if you want to talk on your cell phone in your car you need to
1) pull over on a side street (illegal to pull over on the freeway if not an emergency)
2) Turn OFF the car engine
3) take the keys OUT of the ignition
4) then answer your phone.
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