Would you date a trans person?

[Immoren]

HEEEEEELLLLLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against gays, lesbiens, nor trannies. Be proud of who you are and let no one tell you otherwise. But if I found out my girlfriend was really a dude, I would stick his or hers head in a boiling deep fryer.

What on Earth is a Lesbien?

Les Bien. Holiday resort in Mediterranean.

[Anachronous Rex]

What on Earth is a Lesbien?

Les Bien. Holiday resort in Mediterranean.

Near the Isle of Lesbos.

[Dousmilia]

I'm not belittling them, I'm saying that the notion that men are having all the societal hardships dumped on them is stupid.

"Poor men, such hardships they face."

Yeah, that's belittling. It's also petty.

It's the truth.

[The Emerald Dawn]

That concept is just an excuse to both create a pedestal /and/ freedom to be irresponsible for women whilst marginalising and dumping the societal hardships on men.

I understand why you're reading it as you are - I just think that in context, after a post saying that men face "the societal hardships" (the implication being that ALL societal hardships are on men), the idea was to scoff at "men face all the hardships," not "men face ANY hardships."

Now, note: I'm not defending PCR's ignorance.

But he did not use the word "all". That's why I'm reading it as I am.

"[M]arginalising [sic] and dumping the societal hardships on men."

Followed by:

Poor men, such hardships they face.

Caused me to say what I did. It's the same reason I don't cleave to feminism.

[The Banjo Islands]

I'd puke....then think about it real hard, and then find a clever way to flee.

[Progressive-Conservative Republics]

Well, I was a Sergeant, so yes I was a warrior. I'm trained in several technical fields so that fits.

I'm not liberal, feminist, socialist, or anarchist, though.

Do you throw ad homs around normally? Or is this some form of buzzword-bingo I'm not familiar with?

Iunno; but you wasted my time with your strawman, so I'll hope to waste your's with equally valid counter-points.

[The Emerald Dawn]

"Poor men, such hardships they face."

Yeah, that's belittling. It's also petty.

It's the truth.

No. It's not. It's also nowhere near defensible.

People who identify as males have problems that are unique to them. These problems are not inconsequential, even when compared to the problems faced by people who identify as female.

[Zweite Alaje]

What on Earth is a Lesbien?

Les Bien. Holiday resort in Mediterranean.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Well, I was a Sergeant, so yes I was a warrior. I'm trained in several technical fields so that fits.

I'm not liberal, feminist, socialist, or anarchist, though.

Do you throw ad homs around normally? Or is this some form of buzzword-bingo I'm not familiar with?

Iunno; but you wasted my time with your strawman, so I'll hope to waste your's with equally valid counter-points.

No. You see, you're rabbling against an imaginary foe. You're creating a mountain to scale so you can declare yourself the King of the Oppression Olympics. You're doing so by vilifying a concept that you have no comprehension of, and in doing so only proving your own ignorance.

Your self-confidence is ill-founded, and you would do well to educate yourself on logical fallacies.

[Anachronous Rex]

It's the truth.

No. It's not. It's also nowhere near defensible.

People who identify as males have problems that are unique to them. These problems are not inconsequential, even when compared to the problems faced by people who identify as female.

And which women really ought to care about and work towards overcoming, not just because of the general injustice, but because a lot of these problems relate to them; and in particular how men are supposed to behave towards them.

[The Emerald Dawn]

No. It's not. It's also nowhere near defensible.

People who identify as males have problems that are unique to them. These problems are not inconsequential, even when compared to the problems faced by people who identify as female.

And which women really ought to care about and work towards overcoming, not just because of the general injustice, but because a lot of these problems relate to them; and in particular how men are supposed to behave towards them.

I would argue ESPECIALLY because these problems relate to how men behave towards them. Better to remove the disease than treat the symptoms.

[The Blaatschapen]

No. It's not. It's also nowhere near defensible.

People who identify as males have problems that are unique to them. These problems are not inconsequential, even when compared to the problems faced by people who identify as female.

And which women really ought to care about and work towards overcoming, not just because of the general injustice, but because a lot of these problems relate to them; and in particular how men are supposed to behave towards them.

I would argue that all humans regardless of gender or sex ought to care about and works towards overcoming these problems.

[Rocopurr]

As long as I liked them, of course.

I'd puke....then think about it real hard, and then find a clever way to flee.

Isn't that just adorable?

[Condunum]

Well, I was a Sergeant, so yes I was a warrior. I'm trained in several technical fields so that fits.

I'm not liberal, feminist, socialist, or anarchist, though.

Do you throw ad homs around normally? Or is this some form of buzzword-bingo I'm not familiar with?

Iunno; but you wasted my time with your strawman, so I'll hope to waste your's with equally valid counter-points.

*sigh* For fucks sake. Saying "STRAWMANANANANANA" does not invalidate what he said. It means NOTHING unless you point out what the strawman is. Point out possible logical fallacies is not a valid form of argument, and is infact a logical falacy in itself.

[Immoren]

As long as I liked them, of course.

I'd puke....then think about it real hard, and then find a clever way to flee.

Isn't that just adorable?

Very, my dearest.

[Anachronous Rex]

And which women really ought to care about and work towards overcoming, not just because of the general injustice, but because a lot of these problems relate to them; and in particular how men are supposed to behave towards them.

I would argue that all humans regardless of gender or sex ought to care about and works towards overcoming these problems.

Ideally yes, but I always like to throw in a selfish motivation where possible.

[Dousmilia]

It's the truth.

No. It's not. It's also nowhere near defensible.

People who identify as males have problems that are unique to them. These problems are not inconsequential, even when compared to the problems faced by people who identify as female.

Yes they do have problems unique to them. But when compared to problems women face they become inconsequential.

[The Emerald Dawn]

I would argue that all humans regardless of gender or sex ought to care about and works towards overcoming these problems.

Ideally yes, but I always like to throw in a selfish motivation where possible.

Hey, if everyone can get their back scratched, all the better!

[Progressive-Conservative Republics]

Iunno; but you wasted my time with your strawman, so I'll hope to waste your's with equally valid counter-points.

*sigh* For fucks sake. Saying "STRAWMANANANANANA" does not invalidate what he said. It means NOTHING unless you point out what the strawman is. Point out possible logical fallacies is not a valid form of argument, and is infact a logical falacy in itself.

>Implying what he said invalidated what I said.

Come back to me when I avoid a real argument.

[The Emerald Dawn]

No. It's not. It's also nowhere near defensible.

People who identify as males have problems that are unique to them. These problems are not inconsequential, even when compared to the problems faced by people who identify as female.

Yes they do have problems unique to them. But when compared to problems women face they become inconsequential.

No, they do not. And the fact that you think they do means that you're part of the problem.

You want to talk about someone with a privilege issue? Look in the mirror.

[The Blaatschapen]

Iunno; but you wasted my time with your strawman, so I'll hope to waste your's with equally valid counter-points.

*sigh* For fucks sake. Saying "STRAWMANANANANANA" does not invalidate what he said. It means NOTHING unless you point out what the strawman is. Point out possible logical fallacies is not a valid form of argument, and is infact a logical falacy in itself.

Strawmana mana
Do doo be-do-do
Strawmana Mana
Do do-do do
Strawmana Mana
Do doo de-do-do de-do-do de-do-do de-do-do-doodle do do do-doo do!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJxYRtGUM4

[Esternial]

*sigh* For fucks sake. Saying "STRAWMANANANANANA" does not invalidate what he said. It means NOTHING unless you point out what the strawman is. Point out possible logical fallacies is not a valid form of argument, and is infact a logical falacy in itself.

Strawmana mana
Do doo be-do-do
Strawmana Mana
Do do-do do
Strawmana Mana
Do doo de-do-do de-do-do de-do-do de-do-do-doodle do do do-doo do!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJxYRtGUM4

That's a horrible joke, even for you.

I hope you're happy, Blaat.

[The Blaatschapen]

Strawmana mana
Do doo be-do-do
Strawmana Mana
Do do-do do
Strawmana Mana
Do doo de-do-do de-do-do de-do-do de-do-do-doodle do do do-doo do!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJxYRtGUM4

That's a horrible joke, even for you.

I hope you're happy, Blaat.

Did you even listen to it? How can you be anything but happy?

Edit: Waka waka!

[Esternial]

That's a horrible joke, even for you.

I hope you're happy, Blaat.

Did you even listen to it? How can you be anything but happy?

I'm grumpy. Mana mana.

[Condunum]

*sigh* For fucks sake. Saying "STRAWMANANANANANA" does not invalidate what he said. It means NOTHING unless you point out what the strawman is. Point out possible logical fallacies is not a valid form of argument, and is infact a logical falacy in itself.

>Implying what he said invalidated what I said.

Come back to me when I avoid a real argument.

I implied nothing. You did. You have to show how his argument was fallicious, or you've failed.