NATION

PASSWORD

Would you date a trans person?

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)

Advertisement

Remove ads

Would you date a trans person?

I am a female; no I would not
25
3%
I am a male; no I would not
531
56%
other gender; no I would not
4
0%
I am a female; yes I would
76
8%
I am a male; yes I would
284
30%
other gender; yes I would
25
3%
 
Total votes : 945

User avatar
The Emerald Dawn
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 20824
Founded: Jun 11, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:28 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Indeed. My ex of 4 years dumped me on Valentines Day at Vday dinner. She said she felt emotionally detached from me and found herself sexually attracted to another. How could I get angry about her telling me the truth. We remain friends. Close friends. She lived with me for two years afterwards without any hostility between us. She told the truth. That's all I could ever ask for.

That's beautiful. There's no reason why people have to feel committed to someone they don't want to be with.

Alimony. Child support. Medical care.

User avatar
Luveria
Post Czar
 
Posts: 31339
Founded: Feb 22, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Luveria » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:29 pm

Nadkor wrote:
Luveria wrote:Of course they shouldn't be.


You've named the wrong person on the quote there.

Something that I can only assume was, for some reason, deliberate, as the post you're actually quoting didn't contain my name at any point.

Fixed. Sleep deprivation.

User avatar
The Blaatschapen
Technical Moderator
 
Posts: 62662
Founded: Antiquity
Anarchy

Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:30 pm

Luveria wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
You've named the wrong person on the quote there.

Something that I can only assume was, for some reason, deliberate, as the post you're actually quoting didn't contain my name at any point.

Fixed. Sleep deprivation.


Go to bed. NSG is not worth your health.
The Blaatschapen should resign

User avatar
Luveria
Post Czar
 
Posts: 31339
Founded: Feb 22, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Luveria » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:31 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Luveria wrote:Fixed. Sleep deprivation.


Go to bed. NSG is not worth your health.

It's called insomnia. Not NSG.

User avatar
The Truth and Light
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 29396
Founded: Jan 12, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:33 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:That's beautiful. There's no reason why people have to feel committed to someone they don't want to be with.

Alimony. Child support. Medical care.

... We must abolish marriage.

:b
Last edited by The Truth and Light on Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
United Furry Alliance
Diplomat
 
Posts: 795
Founded: Mar 28, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby United Furry Alliance » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:37 pm

Yea I'd do it but they have to be ok looking and have a suitable personality that could mix with mine.
Past-A small island nation of warrior monks
Modern-continent sized nation Run by Scholars.
Futuristic-Star sized mobile station that travels the multiverse run by scientists.
Pros-Science and democracies,USA(mostly),Atheism,Blueberries.
Cons-Religon,Monarchy,Cherries,

User avatar
Ora Amaris
Diplomat
 
Posts: 650
Founded: Feb 21, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Ora Amaris » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:37 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
No, of course it's not.

In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

Welllllllll I dunno, if person A is what everything person B wants except that they're infertile, and rejects them for that, I think that's a bit douchish. In my opinion.
Everyone has their own taste, but I still kinda think that if that's the sole reason, it's kinda shallow.

I dunno, is it wrong for me to think of that as a bit shallow? :meh:
Last edited by Ora Amaris on Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Let beauty and creativity reign throughout the universe,
Preserve the sublime equilibrium of nature,
Find enlightenment through the doors of perception,
An it harm none, do what thou wilt,
Respect yourself, respect all life, celebrate oneness with the universe.
Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49
Factbook Entry

User avatar
Arglorand
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12597
Founded: Jan 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Arglorand » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:47 pm

Ora Amaris wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

Welllllllll I dunno, if person A is what everything person B wants except that they're infertile, and rejects them for that, I think that's a bit douchish. In my opinion.
Everyone has their own taste, but I still kinda think that if that's the sole reason, it's kinda shallow.

I dunno, is it wrong for me to think of that as a bit shallow? :meh:

It's not. IMHO, there are shallow reasons for discontinuing relationships and honestly I'm going to call them out on being shallow. It's a universal right to discontinue a relationship whenever you like, but so is my right to consider them douchebaggish. Everyone, as a person, is free and has a free right to discontinue a relationship whenever they like. However, as people we've also a responsibility for actions we take. And this is just my personal morality, which I'm not forcing or even advocating to anyone else, because I've no actual proof that it's any truer than any of your personal moralities, but I think we ought to take the ethical responsibility for when we cause pain to other people, such as opting to discontinue a relationship on something as trivial as infertility.
Last edited by Arglorand on Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

User avatar
Distruzio
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23841
Founded: Feb 28, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Distruzio » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:50 pm

Ora Amaris wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

Welllllllll I dunno, if person A is what everything person B wants except that they're infertile, and rejects them for that, I think that's a bit douchish. In my opinion.
Everyone has their own taste, but I still kinda think that if that's the sole reason, it's kinda shallow.

I dunno, is it wrong for me to think of that as a bit shallow? :meh:


Nothing wrong with shallowness. Of course I'm biased in that regard. I will date a trans person, but I won't date an ugly person, a fat person, or a stupid person.
Eastern Orthodox Christian

Anti-Progressive
Conservative

Anti-Feminist
Right leaning Distributist

Anti-Equity
Western Chauvanist

Anti-Globalism
Nationalist

User avatar
The Truth and Light
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 29396
Founded: Jan 12, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:57 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Ora Amaris wrote:Welllllllll I dunno, if person A is what everything person B wants except that they're infertile, and rejects them for that, I think that's a bit douchish. In my opinion.
Everyone has their own taste, but I still kinda think that if that's the sole reason, it's kinda shallow.

I dunno, is it wrong for me to think of that as a bit shallow? :meh:


Nothing wrong with shallowness. Of course I'm biased in that regard. I will date a trans person, but I won't date an ugly person, a fat person, or a stupid person.

SAAAAAME!

User avatar
New England and The Maritimes
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 28872
Founded: Aug 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby New England and The Maritimes » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:00 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Ora Amaris wrote:Welllllllll I dunno, if person A is what everything person B wants except that they're infertile, and rejects them for that, I think that's a bit douchish. In my opinion.
Everyone has their own taste, but I still kinda think that if that's the sole reason, it's kinda shallow.

I dunno, is it wrong for me to think of that as a bit shallow? :meh:


Nothing wrong with shallowness. Of course I'm biased in that regard. I will date a trans person, but I won't date an ugly person, a fat person, or a stupid person.

There's plenty wrong with shallowness. Your preferences don't exist in a vacuum, they were trained into you. I mean, it's your right to be a shallow douche bag, but you can't pretend that hanging a sign on your door that says "NO FAT CHICKZ" does not in fact make you a shallow douche bag. It does. It's just that it's your right to choose to be a shallow douche bag just as much as it's my right to tell you that's a pretty pointlessly narrow way to live your life. :)
All aboard the Love Train. Choo Choo, honeybears. I am Ininiwiyaw Rocopurr:Get in my bed, you perfect human being.
Yesterday's just a memory

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

Also, Bonobos
Formerly Brandenburg-Altmark Me.

User avatar
Distruzio
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23841
Founded: Feb 28, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Distruzio » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:03 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Nothing wrong with shallowness. Of course I'm biased in that regard. I will date a trans person, but I won't date an ugly person, a fat person, or a stupid person.

There's plenty wrong with shallowness. Your preferences don't exist in a vacuum, they were trained into you. I mean, it's your right to be a shallow douche bag, but you can't pretend that hanging a sign on your door that says "NO FAT CHICKZ" does not in fact make you a shallow douche bag. It does. It's just that it's your right to choose to be a shallow douche bag just as much as it's my right to tell you that's a pretty pointlessly narrow way to live your life. :)


Quite right.
Last edited by Distruzio on Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Eastern Orthodox Christian

Anti-Progressive
Conservative

Anti-Feminist
Right leaning Distributist

Anti-Equity
Western Chauvanist

Anti-Globalism
Nationalist

User avatar
Arglorand
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 12597
Founded: Jan 08, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Arglorand » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:05 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Nothing wrong with shallowness. Of course I'm biased in that regard. I will date a trans person, but I won't date an ugly person, a fat person, or a stupid person.

There's plenty wrong with shallowness. Your preferences don't exist in a vacuum, they were trained into you. I mean, it's your right to be a shallow douche bag, but you can't pretend that hanging a sign on your door that says "NO FAT CHICKZ" does not in fact make you a shallow douche bag. It does. It's just that it's your right to choose to be a shallow douche bag just as much as it's my right to tell you that's a pretty pointlessly narrow way to live your life. :)

Now, this I agree with, unreservedly.

No offense intended, Distruzio.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

User avatar
Meryuma
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14922
Founded: Jul 16, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Meryuma » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:07 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:Yeeeea, some people don't see it that way.

Made the same question to my dad, I got a "no, they [transexuals] used to be male and I would be thinking about that if I knew, so I would break up with them" and he's pretty liberal as far as I know him. So I don't think it's a demographic issue.


It's a perspective comparably more fair than "Eeeeeew gross", at any rate.


It's the same perspective, just phrased more politely.
ᛋᛃᚢ - Social Justice Úlfheðinn
Potarius wrote:
Neo Arcad wrote:Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which physical bodies attract with a force proportional to their mass.


In layman's terms, orgy time.


Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.


Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."


Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.



Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.

Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...

*puts on sunglasses*

blow out of proportions."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

...so here's your future

User avatar
Distruzio
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 23841
Founded: Feb 28, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Distruzio » Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:07 pm

Arglorand wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:There's plenty wrong with shallowness. Your preferences don't exist in a vacuum, they were trained into you. I mean, it's your right to be a shallow douche bag, but you can't pretend that hanging a sign on your door that says "NO FAT CHICKZ" does not in fact make you a shallow douche bag. It does. It's just that it's your right to choose to be a shallow douche bag just as much as it's my right to tell you that's a pretty pointlessly narrow way to live your life. :)

Now, this I agree with, unreservedly.

No offense intended, Distruzio.


None taken. I've no problem being identified as a bigot or an asshole. I am both.
Eastern Orthodox Christian

Anti-Progressive
Conservative

Anti-Feminist
Right leaning Distributist

Anti-Equity
Western Chauvanist

Anti-Globalism
Nationalist

User avatar
Soldati Senza Confini
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 86050
Founded: Mar 11, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:38 pm

Meryuma wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
It's a perspective comparably more fair than "Eeeeeew gross", at any rate.


It's the same perspective, just phrased more politely.


My point is: not everyone who wouldn't date a transexual looks at it as "oh no, I just wouldn't date them because they are not my type".

My dad has nothing against them having relationships and marrying other people, but he wouldn't feel comfortable personally, at any rate, and I think that's perfectly natural. I would not date a woman who for entertainment would put food and common fridge items up her... you know... as that would make me feel uncomfortable personally, but if another person can take it he is more than welcome to try, but I wouldn't discriminate against people shoving things up their body orifices.
Last edited by Soldati Senza Confini on Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:42 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

User avatar
Ora Amaris
Diplomat
 
Posts: 650
Founded: Feb 21, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Ora Amaris » Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:45 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Meryuma wrote:
It's the same perspective, just phrased more politely.


My point is: not everyone who wouldn't date a transexual looks at it as "oh no, I just wouldn't date them because they are not my type".

My dad has nothing against them having relationships and marrying other people, but he wouldn't feel comfortable personally, at any rate, and I think that's perfectly natural. I would not date a woman who for entertainment would put food and common fridge items up her... you know... as that would make me feel uncomfortable personally, but if another person can take it he is more than welcome to try, but I wouldn't discriminate against people shoving things up their body orifices.


Yummmmm cucumbers...
Let beauty and creativity reign throughout the universe,
Preserve the sublime equilibrium of nature,
Find enlightenment through the doors of perception,
An it harm none, do what thou wilt,
Respect yourself, respect all life, celebrate oneness with the universe.
Economic Left/Right: -7.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.49
Factbook Entry

User avatar
Dracoria
Senator
 
Posts: 4575
Founded: Oct 26, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Dracoria » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:13 pm

I know what people intend by it, but when someone mentions sticking food in bodily orifices this is what I think of:
Image
Also, chocobos.

I show solidarity with the Tea Party by drinking more tea.
I show solidarity with Occupy Wall Street by painting my toilet as a police cruiser.

User avatar
Fruition (Ancient)
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1303
Founded: Mar 30, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Fruition (Ancient) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:25 pm

Dracoria wrote:I know what people intend by it, but when someone mentions sticking food in bodily orifices this is what I think of:


First, I thought they were ear wax coming out of those ears.
Now, I know they are bananas sticking in those ears.
Fruition wrote:Wow. Do you think personally NS has set you in the right path, without any doubt?
Sassinia wrote:Yes.

User avatar
Grenartia
Post Czar
 
Posts: 44623
Founded: Feb 14, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Grenartia » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:53 am

Dracoria wrote:I know what people intend by it, but when someone mentions sticking food in bodily orifices this is what I think of:


I always think of those PETA commercials.
Lib-left. Antifascist, antitankie, anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist (including the imperialism of non-western countries). Christian (Unitarian Universalist). Background in physics.
Mostly a girl. She or they pronouns, please. Unrepentant transbian.
Reject tradition, embrace modernity.
People who call themselves based NEVER are.
The truth about kids transitioning.

User avatar
Australian rePublic
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 25683
Founded: Mar 18, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:59 am

No
From Greek ancestry Orthodox Christian
I would love to commission infrastructure in Australia. If anyone knows how I, as a lay person, could do so, please TG me. I'm dead serious
We're closer in time to 2050 than 1950

Wonderful Song Quotes

18 Published Issues, 1 Published WA Resolution

User avatar
Jerusalemian
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 14152
Founded: Sep 04, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Jerusalemian » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:45 pm

Ora Amaris wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
My point is: not everyone who wouldn't date a transexual looks at it as "oh no, I just wouldn't date them because they are not my type".

My dad has nothing against them having relationships and marrying other people, but he wouldn't feel comfortable personally, at any rate, and I think that's perfectly natural. I would not date a woman who for entertainment would put food and common fridge items up her... you know... as that would make me feel uncomfortable personally, but if another person can take it he is more than welcome to try, but I wouldn't discriminate against people shoving things up their body orifices.


Yummmmm cucumbers...

With horse butter.
True teaching is not an accumulation of knowledge; it is an awaking of consciousness which goes through successive stages.

The best and shortest road towards knowledge of truth is Nature.

Social good is what brings peace to family and society.

User avatar
Screensaver
Diplomat
 
Posts: 529
Founded: Mar 04, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Screensaver » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:22 pm

If the trans merely identified themselves as the opposite gender and didn't change and doesn't plan to change their biological gender (sex) then yes I would date them. If they do possess such a plan or already have changed their sex then no. The reason? Well let me put it this way. If I want to buy a vintage 1966 Dodge Charger then I want a real 1966 Dodge Charger. Not a 2007 Toyota Prius that has simply been modified to look like it was a 1966 Dodge Charger. I want only what is real and original. A person may get a sex change but that doesn't change the fact that they were once the opposite sex and even with today's medical technology a person's sex can only really be superficially changed. Not 100%. Even if that was possible I still wouldn't do it because it will still be fake and not real in my eyes.

User avatar
Condunum
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 26273
Founded: Apr 26, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Condunum » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:23 pm

Screensaver wrote:If the trans merely identified themselves as the opposite gender and didn't change and doesn't plan to change their biological gender (sex) then yes I would date them. If they do possess such a plan or already have changed their sex then no. The reason? Well let me put it this way. If I want to buy a vintage 1966 Dodge Charger then I want a real 1966 Dodge Charger. Not a 2007 Toyota Prius that has simply been modified to look like it was a 1966 Dodge Charger. I want only what is real and original. A person may get a sex change but that doesn't change the fact that they were once the opposite sex and even with today's medical technology a person's sex can only really be superficially changed. Not 100%. Even if that was possible I still wouldn't do it because it will still be fake and not real in my eyes.

So, trans people are cars now.
password scrambled

User avatar
Agymnum
Negotiator
 
Posts: 7393
Founded: Jul 31, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Agymnum » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:24 pm

Screensaver wrote:If the trans merely identified themselves as the opposite gender and didn't change and doesn't plan to change their biological gender (sex) then yes I would date them. If they do possess such a plan or already have changed their sex then no. The reason? Well let me put it this way. If I want to buy a vintage 1966 Dodge Charger then I want a real 1966 Dodge Charger. Not a 2007 Toyota Prius that has simply been modified to look like it was a 1966 Dodge Charger. I want only what is real and original. A person may get a sex change but that doesn't change the fact that they were once the opposite sex and even with today's medical technology a person's sex can only really be superficially changed. Not 100%. Even if that was possible I still wouldn't do it because it will still be fake and not real in my eyes.


My only question to you would be:

If they told you they were a post-op transsexual after you'd gone on a few dates (i.e. 4 to 5) and you liked them, would you drop them or keep them?
Glorious puppet of Highfort

PreviousNext

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Albaaa, Australian rePublic, Cappedore, Democratic Poopland, Dimetrodon Empire, Neo-American States, The Joeanian Republic, The marxist plains, The Two Jerseys, Valentian Elysium

Advertisement

Remove ads