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Would you date a trans person?

I am a female; no I would not
25
3%
I am a male; no I would not
531
56%
other gender; no I would not
4
0%
I am a female; yes I would
76
8%
I am a male; yes I would
284
30%
other gender; yes I would
25
3%
 
Total votes : 945

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The Steel Magnolia
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:14 pm

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No, of course it's not.

In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.


Exactly, thank you.

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Postby Luveria » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:15 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
No, of course it's not.

In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

I'll judge the hell out of it when they won't knowingly enter a relationship with someone infertile but aren't dumping whoever they are with the moment infertility happens. If they won't enter a relationship because of infertility then they can't remain with anyone who becomes infertile later. I'm aware they can, but it makes them look like they don't stay true to their values at all.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:16 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Nadkor wrote:
No, of course it's not.

In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

It can still be a dick move. Or are you saying that there is no circumstance in which you could foresee dumping someone that would not be even slightly douchebagish?
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:16 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

I'll judge the hell out of it when they won't knowingly enter a relationship with someone infertile but aren't dumping whoever they are with the moment infertility happens. If they won't enter a relationship because of infertility then they can't remain with anyone who becomes infertile later. I'm aware they can, but it makes them look like they don't stay true to their values at all.

You do realize that people change, yes?

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:17 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

It can still be a dick move. Or are you saying that there is no circumstance in which you could foresee dumping someone that would not be even slightly douchebagish?

Put this in the perspective of consent. Think about rape culture.

Think hard.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:18 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:It can still be a dick move. Or are you saying that there is no circumstance in which you could foresee dumping someone that would not be even slightly douchebagish?

Put this in the perspective of consent. Think about rape culture.

Think hard.

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Postby Condunum » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:18 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

I'll judge the hell out of it when they won't knowingly enter a relationship with someone infertile but aren't dumping whoever they are with the moment infertility happens. If they won't enter a relationship because of infertility then they can't remain with anyone who becomes infertile later. I'm aware they can, but it makes them look like they don't stay true to their values at all.

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Postby Dracoria » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:18 pm

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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:19 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

I'll judge the hell out of it when they won't knowingly enter a relationship with someone infertile but aren't dumping whoever they are with the moment infertility happens. If they won't enter a relationship because of infertility then they can't remain with anyone who becomes infertile later. I'm aware they can, but it makes them look like they don't stay true to their values at all.


Please never get into a serious relationship.

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Postby Arglorand » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:19 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

It can still be a dick move. Or are you saying that there is no circumstance in which you could foresee dumping someone that would not be even slightly douchebagish?

I agree with this. Call me judgmental, but I've lived, just recently, through my dad leaving my mum and his reasons were assholish and dicky. This is, of course, my opinion, but from my own personal point of view, the move was highly douchebagish and I'm going to sure as hell be judgmental over it, because the move deserves to be judged.

Of course, from the perspective of consent, which you are pointing out, you are perfectly correct.
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Postby Condunum » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:19 pm

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<3 So dreamy. <3

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:19 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.


Exactly, thank you.

I don't know why it's hard for people to understand. A person is never obligated to put someone else's feelings or morals above their own. As moral agents, if we don't want to be in a relationship, the admirable thing is to follow what you desire and end consent to that relationship.

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Postby Fotla » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:20 pm

Well, I'm not sexually attracted to transsexuals, so no. There's absolutely nothing wrong with being a transsexual, of course, but it wouldn't mesh with what I look for in a partner.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:20 pm

Condunum wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
<3 So dreamy. <3

I would bone Optimus faster than a... Something that bones.

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Postby Nadkor » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

I'll judge the hell out of it when they won't knowingly enter a relationship with someone infertile but aren't dumping whoever they are with the moment infertility happens. If they won't enter a relationship because of infertility then they can't remain with anyone who becomes infertile later. I'm aware they can, but it makes them look like they don't stay true to their values at all.


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Postby Condunum » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:21 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Condunum wrote:I would bone Optimus faster than a... Something that bones.

Cubone.

Yeah! THAT!
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Postby Distruzio » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:23 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

I'll judge the hell out of it when they won't knowingly enter a relationship with someone infertile but aren't dumping whoever they are with the moment infertility happens. If they won't enter a relationship because of infertility then they can't remain with anyone who becomes infertile later. I'm aware they can, but it makes them look like they don't stay true to their values at all.


Values change. A relationship isn't an investment that garners returns. The moment a person ceases to satisfy your expectations you should bail without any ethical dilemmas. Relationships aren't, and should never be, subject to possessiveness.
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Postby Luveria » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:24 pm

Distruzio wrote:Relationships aren't, and should never be, subject to possessiveness.

Of course they shouldn't be.
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Postby Nailed to the Perch » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:24 pm

Luveria wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:In the world of relationships, you can discontinue a romance at any time for any reason, and it's no one's place to judge that.

I'll judge the hell out of it when they won't knowingly enter a relationship with someone infertile but aren't dumping whoever they are with the moment infertility happens. If they won't enter a relationship because of infertility then they can't remain with anyone who becomes infertile later. I'm aware they can, but it makes them look like they don't stay true to their values at all.


Seriously, this has been explained very many times now. Virtually everybody's "values" include "I will do things for someone I love that I won't do for someone I just met." This is not freaking rocket science, dude. I am not betraying any "values" if I will put up with my boyfriend grabbing my chest and saying, "Hehehehehe, you have BOOBIES" but will not put up with a guy I just met doing the same. Nor am I betraying any "values" if I'm willing to give up a cherished dream because of a loved one's medical necessity, but am not willing to make the same sacrifice for someone I just met. Stop playing robot.
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Postby Distruzio » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:25 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Exactly, thank you.

I don't know why it's hard for people to understand. A person is never obligated to put someone else's feelings or morals above their own. As moral agents, if we don't want to be in a relationship, the admirable thing is to follow what you desire and end consent to that relationship.


Indeed. My ex of 4 years dumped me on Valentines Day at Vday dinner. She said she felt emotionally detached from me and found herself sexually attracted to another. How could I get angry about her telling me the truth. We remain friends. Close friends. She lived with me for two years afterwards without any hostility between us. She told the truth. That's all I could ever ask for.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:25 pm

Nailed to the Perch wrote:
Luveria wrote:I'll judge the hell out of it when they won't knowingly enter a relationship with someone infertile but aren't dumping whoever they are with the moment infertility happens. If they won't enter a relationship because of infertility then they can't remain with anyone who becomes infertile later. I'm aware they can, but it makes them look like they don't stay true to their values at all.


Seriously, this has been explained very many times now. Virtually everybody's "values" include "I will do things for someone I love that I won't do for someone I just met." This is not freaking rocket science, dude. I am not betraying any "values" if I will put up with my boyfriend grabbing my chest and saying, "Hehehehehe, you have BOOBIES" but will not put up with a guy I just met doing the same. Nor am I betraying any "values" if I'm willing to give up a cherished dream because of a loved one's medical necessity, but am not willing to make the same sacrifice for someone I just met. Stop playing robot.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:27 pm

Distruzio wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:I don't know why it's hard for people to understand. A person is never obligated to put someone else's feelings or morals above their own. As moral agents, if we don't want to be in a relationship, the admirable thing is to follow what you desire and end consent to that relationship.


Indeed. My ex of 4 years dumped me on Valentines Day at Vday dinner. She said she felt emotionally detached from me and found herself sexually attracted to another. How could I get angry about her telling me the truth. We remain friends. Close friends. She lived with me for two years afterwards without any hostility between us. She told the truth. That's all I could ever ask for.

That's beautiful. There's no reason why people have to feel committed to someone they don't want to be with.

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Postby Luveria » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:28 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
Indeed. My ex of 4 years dumped me on Valentines Day at Vday dinner. She said she felt emotionally detached from me and found herself sexually attracted to another. How could I get angry about her telling me the truth. We remain friends. Close friends. She lived with me for two years afterwards without any hostility between us. She told the truth. That's all I could ever ask for.

That's beautiful. There's no reason why people have to feel committed to someone they don't want to be with.

Is anyone saying otherwise?

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Postby Anachronous Rex » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:28 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:It can still be a dick move. Or are you saying that there is no circumstance in which you could foresee dumping someone that would not be even slightly douchebagish?

Put this in the perspective of consent. Think about rape culture.

Think hard.

I'm not entirely sure what you think I am arguing, but it is not that anyone has rights over another person's body.

Of course people can end relationships at any time for any reason, but if they do so for reasons that I think are stupid and/or hurtful, I may say so. I almost never do, because I think people should be given quite a lot of leeway in this regard, but there it is.
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:28 pm

Luveria wrote:
Nadkor wrote:Relationships aren't, and should never be, subject to possessiveness.

Of course they shouldn't be.


You've named the wrong person on the quote there.

Something that I can only assume was, for some reason, deliberate, as the post you're actually quoting didn't contain my name at any point.
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