Would you date a trans person?

[Luveria]

I have nothing against Trans-genders, but I probably wouldn't date one because I plan on having biological children one day.

So if you have a relationship with someone and you find out later on they are infertile, are you going to ditch them for someone else?

[Gallade]

I have nothing against Trans-genders, but I probably wouldn't date one because I plan on having biological children one day.

So if you have a relationship with someone and you find out later on they are infertile, are you going to ditch them for someone else?

What if you knew the person was infertile beforehand, then chose not to date them?

I believe his point was as he/she wants children, they wouldn't knowingly enter a relationship knowing it couldn't lead to biological offspring.

[Luveria]

So if you have a relationship with someone and you find out later on they are infertile, are you going to ditch them for someone else?

What if you knew the person was infertile beforehand, then chose not to date them?

That's no issue to me because first of all I'm not interested in women and secondly I wouldn't want children.

So if you have a relationship with someone and you find out later on they are infertile, are you going to ditch them for someone else?

I believe his point was as he/she wants children, they wouldn't knowingly enter a relationship knowing it couldn't lead to biological offspring.

That seems a bit unfair as if having biological offspring matters more than a relationship with someone, and it's a bit hypocritical if finding out later on their partner is infertile and not leaving them, while maintaining a standard of not knowingly entering a relationship with someone infertile.

[Immoren]

I have nothing against Trans-genders, but I probably wouldn't date one because I plan on having biological children one day.

So if you have a relationship with someone and you find out later on they are infertile, are you going to ditch them for someone else?

what if he/she's instead is reduced infertile in the future due to reason x?
plot twist.

[Luveria]

So if you have a relationship with someone and you find out later on they are infertile, are you going to ditch them for someone else?

what if he/she's instead is reduced infertile in the future due to reason x?
plot twist.

This is what I'm wondering about too. I do consider it hypocrisy and an inconsistent standard if someone won't have a relationship with anyone infertile but would remain with them if they become infertile later. That makes no sense.

[Gallade]

So if you have a relationship with someone and you find out later on they are infertile, are you going to ditch them for someone else?

what if he/she's instead is reduced infertile in the future due to reason x?
plot twist.

Stop. I couldn't possibly stand the drama. It's killing me.

[Gallade]

what if he/she's instead is reduced infertile in the future due to reason x?
plot twist.

This is what I'm wondering about too. I do consider it hypocrisy and an inconsistent standard if someone won't have a relationship with anyone infertile but would remain with them if they become infertile later. That makes no sense.

You're not considering the complexity of human sentimentality. People come to love what they thought they would dislike.While they could say they want kids over a relationship, if they were in the situation where they later find their partner to be sterile, affection could win out over desires.

It's emotional marmite.

[Luveria]

This is what I'm wondering about too. I do consider it hypocrisy and an inconsistent standard if someone won't have a relationship with anyone infertile but would remain with them if they become infertile later. That makes no sense.

You're not considering the complexity of human sentimentality. People come to love what they thought they would dislike.While they could say they want kids over a relationship, if they were in the situation where they later find their partner to be sterile, affection could win out over desires.

It's emotional marmite.

If someone gives having biological kids higher priority than being in a relationship with someone they love, their priorities are severely mixed up. I always thought people should be compatible with each other before considering having kids rather than having a checklist of:
1) isn't infertile
2) is attractive
etc.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

If someone gives having biological kids higher priority than being in a relationship with someone they love, their priorities are severely mixed up. I always thought people should be compatible with each other before considering having kids rather than having a checklist of:
1) isn't infertile
2) is attractive
etc.

Yes, but this tends to happen more often in other parts of the world than what you may imagine.

Developed nations hardly have this issue at all.

And all of us have a mental checklist of what we want in a partner

[Luveria]

If someone gives having biological kids higher priority than being in a relationship with someone they love, their priorities are severely mixed up. I always thought people should be compatible with each other before considering having kids rather than having a checklist of:
1) isn't infertile
2) is attractive
etc.

Yes, but this tends to happen more often in other parts of the world than what you may imagine.

Developed nations hardly have this issue at all.

And all of us have a mental checklist of what we want in a partner

I have a mental checklist too as does everyone, I'm only saying if fertility is the first priority there is something very wrong with that.

And how do you find out if someone is infertile before you are in a relationship with them? That's ridiculous.
Do you say "You're attractive and I like you so I want to take you on a date, but you see the thing is I want kids someday and...I need to know if you're infertile because I don't want to be in a relationship with someone I can't have kids with."
*slap*

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yes, but this tends to happen more often in other parts of the world than what you may imagine.

Developed nations hardly have this issue at all.

And all of us have a mental checklist of what we want in a partner

I have a mental checklist too as does everyone, I'm only saying if fertility is the first priority there is something very wrong with that.

And how do you find out if someone is infertile before you are in a relationship with them? That's ridiculous.
Do you say "You're attractive and I like you so I want to take you on a date, but you see the thing is I want kids someday and...I need to know if you're infertile because I don't want to be in a relationship with someone I can't have kids with."
*slap*

Yea, that may raise a lot of issues in dates, especially in the first one.

Although we can also issue ID Cards that also make a note about your fertility status. S for sterile and F for fertile.

That way we can just ask for ID before dating. And it'd be an awesome pickup line:

"Hey babe, can I see your ID? Ah, yea, your ID says you can't have children. Sorry, I just date Fs, not Ss".

Satire aside, yes, if you think fertility is first priority there's something wrong with that but hey, there are also women who just want a boyfriend to have babies. Either way is wrong though.

[Luveria]

Yea, that may raise a lot of issues in dates, especially in the first one.

Although we can also issue ID Cards that also make a note about your fertility status. S for sterile and F for fertile.

That way we can just ask for ID before dating.

Along with the ID cards stating sex, gender, and sexual orientation so that way no one gets 'deceived' or disappointed.

[The Holy Therns]

You're not considering the complexity of human sentimentality. People come to love what they thought they would dislike.While they could say they want kids over a relationship, if they were in the situation where they later find their partner to be sterile, affection could win out over desires.

It's emotional marmite.

If someone gives having biological kids higher priority than being in a relationship with someone they love, their priorities are severely mixed up. I always thought people should be compatible with each other before considering having kids rather than having a checklist of:
1) isn't infertile
2) is attractive
etc.

You'd be surprised at how many people think humanity's on the verge of extinction if they don't make tons of babies to the point where that must be their purpose in life.

Yea, that may raise a lot of issues in dates, especially in the first one.

Although we can also issue ID Cards that also make a note about your fertility status. S for sterile and F for fertile.

That way we can just ask for ID before dating.

Along with the ID cards stating sex, gender, and sexual orientation so that way no one gets 'deceived' or disappointed.

Ah yes, wouldn't want to deceive anyone.

[Tokainians]

nope

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yea, that may raise a lot of issues in dates, especially in the first one.

Although we can also issue ID Cards that also make a note about your fertility status. S for sterile and F for fertile.

That way we can just ask for ID before dating.

Along with the ID cards stating sex, gender, and sexual orientation so that way no one gets 'deceived' or disappointed.

Too much info for a card, although we could use cards with chips and put all relevant info, including religion, in the card. Would make dating like a transaction: streamlined, secure, and fast. To read them we would use a special adapter for our smartphones.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Along with the ID cards stating sex, gender, and sexual orientation so that way no one gets 'deceived' or disappointed.

Ah yes, wouldn't want to deceive anyone.

Of course! This solves the problem of "deception" and other dating issues nicely.

After all, everyone knows people love IDs with information easy to access.

[The Holy Therns]

Ah yes, wouldn't want to deceive anyone.

Of course! This solves the problem of "deception" and other dating issues nicely.

After all, everyone knows people love IDs with information easy to access.

Nothing is sexier than the magic words "Here's my card".

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Of course! This solves the problem of "deception" and other dating issues nicely.

After all, everyone knows people love IDs with information easy to access.

Nothing is sexier than the magic words "Here's my card".

Don't forget to say it in that sexy, business-like voice either.

[The Batorys]

I haven't read all 116 pages of the thread.

In answer to the original question, yes, I would date someone who was trans.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Yes, but this tends to happen more often in other parts of the world than what you may imagine.

Developed nations hardly have this issue at all.

And all of us have a mental checklist of what we want in a partner

I have a mental checklist too as does everyone, I'm only saying if fertility is the first priority there is something very wrong with that.

And how do you find out if someone is infertile before you are in a relationship with them? That's ridiculous.
Do you say "You're attractive and I like you so I want to take you on a date, but you see the thing is I want kids someday and...I need to know if you're infertile because I don't want to be in a relationship with someone I can't have kids with."
*slap*

Eh, people are allowed to be selfish and weird with their relationship choices.

[Lyassa and Nairoa]

I have a mental checklist too as does everyone, I'm only saying if fertility is the first priority there is something very wrong with that.

And how do you find out if someone is infertile before you are in a relationship with them? That's ridiculous.
Do you say "You're attractive and I like you so I want to take you on a date, but you see the thing is I want kids someday and...I need to know if you're infertile because I don't want to be in a relationship with someone I can't have kids with."
*slap*

Eh, people are allowed to be selfish and weird with their relationship choices.

Indeed. And it´s a one-size-fits-all thing, works for every kind of relationship regardless of status, gender or choice of sexuality. If I choose to be in a relationship like with a lamp post it´s nobody´s business.

[French Union]

No, I would not. Well, unless I had something definite to gain from the marriage, like access to a lot of wealth, then we'd have ring shopping to do.

[Luveria]

No, I would not. Well, unless I had something definite to gain from the marriage, like access to a lot of wealth, then we'd have ring shopping to do.

Is that your policy for everyone?

[French Union]

No, I would not. Well, unless I had something definite to gain from the marriage, like access to a lot of wealth, then we'd have ring shopping to do.

Is that your policy for everyone?

Correct.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Is that your policy for everyone?

Correct.

That's... sad, somehow.