Margaret Thatcher is Dead

[Calorax]

This quote on the matter from Reddit does her legacy justice, don't you think?

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That doesn't even begin to cover how she fucked up the education system and civil liberties in the UK.

[United commonwealth of ayrshire]

My county was a whole lot less profitable afterwards, you muppet!
it still has one of the highest unemployent rates in britain.

What is your point? What do you think should've been done?

Should the government have continued to spend taxpayers' money to prop up inefficient coal companies that were going to collapse eventually anyway? Just like cotton in the South, coal in North of England had to go.

she made it go.
what she should have done is... NOTHING! she should have kept things as they were. we had huge coal reserves.

nowadays, cumbrian unemployment rate is 14%

[Forsakia]

This quote on the matter from Reddit does her legacy justice, don't you think?

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They managed to misquote her (and misunderstand what the quote was saying).

[Wickedly evil people]

I'm sure if Thatcher had destroyed the coal mining industry for 'green' reasons then the idiot liberals and socialists would give out a Nobel Prized

[Heavenly Peace]

An appeal to emotion is a poor argument. The fact remains that the government was using our money to prop up failing industries for the benefit of a minority.

And which 'failing industries' were these? Because here in the industrial heartland of the UK, the east mids, I don't remember anyone getting many improvements, just a bigger class divide.
And they certainly didn't help any minorities, unless you count the top 1% richest people to be a minority group.

These industries showed that they could not sustain themselves in a free market, they failed to compete. Therefore they were failures. The minority that benefited from government subsidies included the big corporations who owned the coal mines, not just workers.

[Hippostania]

Who mentioned companies?

You did. I was referring to the inefficient government-owned companies.

And don't try to avoid the question, I already explained those two posts pages ago.

[Glasgia]

This quote on the matter from Reddit does her legacy justice, don't you think?

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They managed to misquote her (and misunderstand what the quote was saying).

The last bit about apartheid was incorrect. However, the rest rings true.

Also, it's not a misunderstanding. It's something everybody tries to do in arguments from time to time called taking things out of context.

[Heavenly Peace]

This quote on the matter from Reddit does her legacy justice, don't you think?

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Except for the fact that she never touched NHS spending.

[Dreadful Sagittarius]

Defending the Falklands from the Argentinian aggressive imperialism is the one thing I will gladly give to her credit.

Excuse me sir! You appear to have quoted my quote with your facepalm smiley, and not Calimera II's quote which is what you intended as your facepalm smiley subject given how silly it was.

I'm sure you'll rectify this error forthwith, eh old boy?

[Calimera II]

I don't understand this.

Everyone here keep complaining about the fact that Lady Thatcher stopped funding inefficient government companies. I'm especially referring to the coal industry in Northern England, which was already suffering and on the brink of collapse as it simply wasn't profitable anymore. What else could have been done? Should shoveling taxpayers' money to these inefficient government companies should've continued, regardless of their economic situation?

Yep, that's a completely fair point.

However, the argument used by these people, which I will let them have, is that Thatcher - who saw that these industries were uncompetitive in the market - took measures that essentially shut these industries down and forced thousands, perhaps millions oout of work.

Now, I'd still argue that this is temporary, and there always comes a time when you have to jump out of a sinking ship, just as the US no longer relies on the cotton industry, but nevertheless millions of people were affected by this, and I will at no point attempt to deny that there was temporary suffering, where the anger stems from.

It's quite funny people are angry with Thatcher - she got a inefficient, enormous state created by her predecesor when she started.
Unemployment was caused by many factors:
1- The Privatization of state owned industries
2- The failure of the economic policies of her predecessor

She did it quite well. She transformed Britain into a competitive and modern state - before it was a uncompetitive, unefficient state, not very atractive for investors.
Of course, because of her, and her predecessors policies the unemployment rose from 4% to 10%, but after all the necessary reforms the unemployment dropped from around the 10% to 5%. When she left office it stood at 5%.

[Heavenly Peace]

This quote on the matter from Reddit does her legacy justice, don't you think?

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That doesn't even begin to cover how she fucked up the education system and civil liberties in the UK.

Are you sure you don't mean Anthony Blair?

[Calimera II]

Excuse me sir! You appear to have quoted my quote with your facepalm smiley, and not Calimera II's quote which is what you intended as your facepalm smiley subject given how silly it was.

I'm sure you'll rectify this error forthwith, eh old boy?

No.

[South Kebabistan]

This quote on the matter from Reddit does her legacy justice, don't you think?

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Yes, this does her perfect justice.

[Hippostania]

she made it go.
what she should have done is... NOTHING! she should have kept things as they were. we had huge coal reserves.

nowadays, cumbrian unemployment rate is 14%

But that's exactly what she did! She did nothing, she didn't keep funding the inefficient industries with taxpayers' money. What you actually want that she would've continued propping up these inefficient industries that would've over time become an even bigger burden on the British economy.

Answer me. Do you think that the British people should've been forced to pay for inefficient public coal company's expenses that it couldn't cover because it was so unprofitable?

[Kylarnatia]

Ha ha, ha ha ha ha...

Ha.

My History and Politics teacher is probably dancing right now. I would say 'Rest in Peace', but in all honesty I really couldn't care. I do like to pay my respects to the dead, but I don't feel as if peace can be apart of my condolences for this woman. She can rest, at least, and you're barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm going to give condolences to her family.

If you Tories out there want some good complement, she had charisma. That's it. Definitely doesn't grant her the title of "Best Peacetime Prime Minister", but then again David Cameron would say that.

[San Leggera]

This quote on the matter from Reddit does her legacy justice, don't you think?

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They managed to misquote her (and misunderstand what the quote was saying).

Meh, I never said the quote was a biography approved by her.

[Glasgia]

You know what guys, I'm never gonna convince you and you're never gonna convince me. We have different views on things and we have the right to those views. Condolences to her family and I'm getting out of here.

[Transnapastain]

What a frickin mess

Arglorand

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When Chavez, a democratically elected, sensible leader who made life better for millions died, you celebrated it.

An idiotic bitch who ruined the lives of millions died. We're gonna celebrate this irrespective of your neocon bullshit.

Except what you REALLY said was;

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When Chavez, a democratically elected, sensible leader who made life better for millions died, you celebrated it.

An idiotic bitch who ruined the lives of millions died. Fuck you, man. We're gonna celebrate this irrespective of your neocon bullshit.

No, bad. I'm going to take the fact that you have no record and give you the benefit of the doubt that you edited it because you knew you were wrong, and not to be sneaky, and give you an unofficial warning for flaming

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Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f

I really can't describe the sorrow and sadness I am experiencing right now. This all seems so unreal, I can't really accept that she's gone.

She truly deserves the title of the greatest prime minister in the history of the United Kingdom. She was a vital partner in crushing socialism in Eastern Bloc, got rid of regulations, inefficient government-owned companies and brought the British people the economic freedom they had been deprived of for decades. She brought the British people untold amounts of prosperity and freedom, and now she's gone. First Reagan, now Thatcher... Why must all the good ones go?

Nevertheless, she lived a good life and even though I don't believe in afterlife, I truly hope that she is in a better place now. And before any of you disrespectful, idiotic left-wing goons start dancing on the poor woman's grave, I urge you to shut the fuck up and show some respect. A person is dead and that's supposed to be a sad thing, no matter what your political orientation is. Even if you don't agree with her policies, the least you can do is be quiet.

Regardless, condolences to her family and friends. RIP Margaret Thatcher, the greatest prime minister in the history of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Fuck you and the horse you fucking rode in on you little gobshyte cunt. I had to grow up during her reign. She fucked this country well and good and little self entitled fucks like you have no idea what you are talking about. I left school when I was 16 and there was no work because she fucked the entire north east of the country. The effects of which are still felt to this day. So frankly fuck off with your little fucking trolling bollocks and show your head up your ass where the only thing you need to keep the likes you alive is the shit you pull out of your fucking arse you utterly pathetic piece of shit. The only saving grace you have is that you are still a teen and still quite ignorant.

I read a couple of your others posts, and I was too impressed with them either.

But this? This? You know better. *** Three day ban for flaming ***.

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Lengleland

The worst prime minister in British history, but still R.I.P.

How stupid are you? ARE YOU EVEN BRITISH? YOU STUPID IDIOT! SOMEONE HAS DIED AND YOU CONTINUE TO STATE YOUR FALSE OPINIONS!

YOU ARE DISGUSTING!

Rest in eternal peace, Baroness Thatcher

I wouldn't feel anything since I'd be dead.

Stop being a prat; you know what I mean...

No, bad! *** Warning for flaming ***

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Another quarter for another game!

Wickedly evil people

I'm sure if Thatcher had destroyed the coal mining industry for 'green' reasons then the idiot liberals and socialists would give out a Nobel Prized

There's a word in this sentense which doesnt belong or need to be there. Find it. Don't do it again. You've been here since 2004 with no infractions. Unofficial warning for flamingbaiting

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Its apparently the song that never ends

United commonwealth of ayrshire

it was not on the brink of collapse, it was cumbria's biggest employer. she ruined my county.
go back to lapland and get yourself a brain before you make more comments on this topic.

Mild flamebaiting there. No need for it. Unofficial warning for flamebaiting

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Hippostania

And before any of you disrespectful, idiotic left-wing goons start dancing on the poor woman's grave, I urge you to shut the fuck up and show some respect. A person is dead and that's supposed to be a sad thing, no matter what your political orientation is. Even if you don't agree with her policies, the least you can do is be quiet.

Festive coloring mine.

The green is appropriate and how you should phrase your statements here.

The red is inappropriate and how you tend to phrase your statements.

Which one is longer?

Cost the lives of British men over some islands in Argentina

It is the duty of the British government to protect HM's subjects from foreign aggression. You take the one of the few things that the government should be doing (defense) and say that it's irrelevant? Yeah, maybe we should've thrown the money that was used for the Falklands War to chavs? Maybe they could've bought some more beer and weed, 'innit mate?

The rest of that post was fine, you didn't need the slurs and the sarcasm to make your point, did you?

You are on the brink of losing your nation, regardless, you can have a *** warning for trolling/flamebaiting ***. However, more punitive actions may be taken following moderator discussions.

I'm going to unlock this, but, please, keep it civil, I don't want to have to do this again, and I know none of the other mods do either. Play nice.

[Genivaria]

....Wait, you mean she was alive?

[Individual]

Certainly a good PM.
Fucked a little around with the Malvinas etc. But still better than Cameron. Horrible..

Defending the Falklands from the Argentinian aggressive imperialism is the one thing I will gladly give to her credit.

Which were claimed by Britain through the use of aggressive imperialism. Try again.

[Dreadful Sagittarius]

Defending the Falklands from the Argentinian aggressive imperialism is the one thing I will gladly give to her credit.

Which were claimed by Britain through the use of aggressive imperialism. Try again.

Please, start a Falklands thread so we can shoot down your Argentinian biased excuses some more. It'll be hilarious.

[Divair]

....Wait, you mean she was alive?

'Alive' is a stretch. She suffered from serious health issues in her later years.

[Individual]

Say what you want about her. I personally liked the way she did things. Just don't rejoice as someone's death.

I don't give a sack of shit about any of your overly sensitive conservative's emotions at all. Margaret Thatcher was nothing but a bitch, and the day of her death should be made a national holiday in Britain.

[Calorax]

Defending the Falklands from the Argentinian aggressive imperialism is the one thing I will gladly give to her credit.

Which were claimed by Britain through the use of aggressive imperialism. Try again.

Well, that's not exactly true, is it?

[Calimera II]

You know what guys, I'm never gonna convince you and you're never gonna convince me. We have different views on things and we have the right to those views. Condolences to her family and I'm getting out of here.

Cee ya Glasgia, and take your opinion about her with you!