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by Greater Americania » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:02 pm
Pokemonman wrote:When you aren't Christian life is..... life is..... WAY BETTER!

by Nercer - » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:05 pm

by The Deus Corporation » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:06 pm

by Hebalobia » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:06 pm

by Dyakovo » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:06 pm
Nercer - wrote:I'm just wondering if as I get older, will I look back at now and think that I was immature and didn't understand it? Will my understanding keep changing?

by Greater Americania » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:07 pm

by Aririn » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:08 pm
Nercer - wrote:I myself believe that some sort of god or gods have to exist. But I make most of my guesses about what is most likely real off of real-life happenings. I really doubt that a big benevolent dude in the sky exists. It just ain't rational.
I started to wonder what I believed when 13. At the time, I wasn't really being very mature about it. Eventually, I decided that the Jedeo-Christian God must be the true god. Then at 15 I started to think more rationally about how the world works with the more experience I got. I realized that life sucked too much for there to be a loving and caring god. But, life is too complex to have come out of nothing. Plus, something happened to make us special. Humanity can feel things that most other animals can't (love is a good example), so there has to be a some reason for that, right?
Here are my basic periods of though on the issue:
0-11 - Child; didn't care
12 - Puberty, started to notice the world around me and wondered about it
13 - Questioned greatly what I believe and decided on Judeo-Christianity. Great level of immaturity.
14 - Stuck with Judeo-Christian.
15-present- Great amount of development of philosophical and rational thought. Questioning everything. Gradually deciding against loving Christian God. Basing life and religion of my own experience, making my own morals. Becoming open minded. Great confusion, conflicting emotions (which are what largely affects my beliefs).
I'm just wondering if as I get older, will I look back at now and think that I was immature and didn't understand it? Will my understanding keep changing?

by Dyakovo » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:13 pm
Nercer - wrote:Some of the anceint animistic ones actually make some serious sence.

by Maurepas » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:16 pm


by Pope Joan » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:25 pm
Hebalobia wrote:I think I first really started to understand around 14 or so. I was a Christian then when I suddenly realized that god incarnating himself as one of his creations so that he could sacrifice himself to himself in order to appease himself and atone for the sins of creatures whose nature he created made absolutely no sense whatsoever. Neither did his appearance as a savior only in a backwater of the Roman Empire while ignoring all of the other peoples of the earth make any sense.
In the end you'll find that it's really quite simple. All religions are total nonsense. But don't take my word for. Study each religion as if you were a member of a different one and you'll soon realize that they are all utterly absurd, Christianity included.

by The Adrian Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:55 pm
), I am now a Baptist Christian, the real turn of events was while reading a biography on Albert Einstein, I came across the story of how he had answered the existence of evil argument, I'd rather not duplicate it in entirety but in essence, "As cold is merely the absence of heat, dark the mere absence of light, both are abstracts unmeasurable and undefinable, so is evil the absence of Good (or God) where cold does not exist nor darkness, evil is merely the result of people who do not have goodness. Faith Hope Charity wrote:I would just like to take this time to say... The Adrian Empire is awesome.

by Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:00 pm
The Adrian Empire wrote:For instance "If God is all-powerful and all-seeing then why did he allow evil to come to be" that one is rather easy, we must realize that God, operates under his own set of morals, he knew the consequence of his actions, but he did not intervene because it was not his decision he abided by his own ethics and allowed man to choose his fate. This does not as some would say make him evil but rather transcendently benevolent, in that he would allow his dear creations to leave him, because he must abide to his own morals,


by Mad hatters in jeans » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:10 pm

by Dyakovo » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:31 pm
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:i was about 13 when i realised that there is no big dude in the sky with a beard.

by The Beautiful Darkness » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:24 am

by The Blaatschapen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:26 am
But I wouldn't want to trade it for anything, since the freedom is also very empowering 

by Cabra West » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:41 am
Nercer - wrote:I'm 16 and am greatly confussed (and fascinated at the same time) on religion, spirituality, the meaning of life, etc. I wasn't raised in any religion. I have mostly based most of my believes off of my experiances with life (of which obviously there aren't very many of due to my age) and the experiances of others (but mostly the first). Most people look to religion for morality or reason (I don't, I make my own morals, which I think makes me stronger), I seek only to understand. So I'm wondering, how old were you when you first started to understand your own religious beliefs?

by Tubbsalot » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:43 am

by Risottia » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:16 am
Nercer - wrote:I'm 16 and am greatly confussed (and fascinated at the same time) on religion, spirituality, the meaning of life, etc. I wasn't raised in any religion. I have mostly based most of my believes off of my experiances with life (of which obviously there aren't very many of due to my age) and the experiances of others (but mostly the first). Most people look to religion for morality or reason (I don't, I make my own morals, which I think makes me stronger), I seek only to understand. So I'm wondering, how old were you when you first started to understand your own religious beliefs?

by Allbeama » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:25 am
Nercer - wrote:I'm 16 and am greatly confussed (and fascinated at the same time) on religion, spirituality, the meaning of life, etc. I wasn't raised in any religion. I have mostly based most of my believes off of my experiances with life (of which obviously there aren't very many of due to my age) and the experiances of others (but mostly the first). Most people look to religion for morality or reason (I don't, I make my own morals, which I think makes me stronger), I seek only to understand. So I'm wondering, how old were you when you first started to understand your own religious beliefs?

by Augustenborgh » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:36 am

by Bormanico » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:42 am
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