Kansas to enact "Life starts at fertilization" abortion law

[Frisivisia]

You're more like the longer, shitty remake that no one liked.

Still grossed more money than your silly b-movie edition.

Doubt it. There's a reason people like Star Wars better than the prequels.

[Divair]

Source?

Could not find direct source. A rape victim's child will probably face a higher rate of abuse than a normal child. IF this is true than:

http://www.safehorizon.org/index/what-w ... s-304.html

According to a National Institute of Justice study, abused and neglected children were 11 times more likely to engage in criminal behavior as teens, are 2.7 times more likely to be arrested for violent and criminal behavior as an adult, and are 3.1 times more likely to be arrested for one of many forms of violent crime.

This literally has fuck all to do with so called "violent genes"


l2evolution

[Imsogone]

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

Well, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the Biblical God had no respect for the lives of children (in fact, he was happy to commit mass infanticide all the time), and he was very clear in his belief that life begins with the first breath, not conception.

So you can shove your misrepresentation of "God" up your ass.

In fact, as I've stated before, "God" has repeatedly stated that he wants us to strive to be more like him.

[New England and The Maritimes]

What inaccurate picture?

I must have missed all the posts in this thread where posters were saying that, and all the pro-choice advocates who say that.

I'll say it proudly. I want every woman in the country who decides to terminate her pregnancy to be able to do it immediately upon making that decision with zero hassle, because it's her decision to make and not yours, and I would appreciate it if all of you fucked off out of other people's medical decisions.

[Spiritwolf]

You and everyone present knows exactly what I am saying. Sarcasm helps no one and is a poor counter-argument. You can do better than that.

He echoed your sentiment precisely. Everyone present absolutely does know what you are saying.

If you take a life then you deserve to have your life taken. That's a fact. My point is that we should stop abortion because it is taking lives, even if you dont consider them to be "viable outside of the womb lives" they are still lives nonetheless. Is it so wrong for me to be an advocate of allowing children to live? Is it really such an imposition on a woman to carry a pregnancy to term so that a child may live? What is intrinsically wrong with being 100% in favor of life?

[Divair]

If you take a life then you deserve to have your life taken.

Shit, we're going to need to kill a lot of soldiers.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Source?

Could not find direct source. A rape victim's child will probably face a higher rate of abuse than a normal child. IF this is true than:

http://www.safehorizon.org/index/what-w ... s-304.html

According to a National Institute of Justice study, abused and neglected children were 11 times more likely to engage in criminal behavior as teens, are 2.7 times more likely to be arrested for violent and criminal behavior as an adult, and are 3.1 times more likely to be arrested for one of many forms of violent crime.

That says nothing about your claim about genetics (I think you should accept you are wrong there). And are you assuming the child of a rape victim will be abused? In what sense? And what is that assumption based on?

[Frisivisia]

He echoed your sentiment precisely. Everyone present absolutely does know what you are saying.

If you take a life then you deserve to have your life taken. That's a fact. My point is that we should stop abortion because it is taking lives, even if you dont consider them to be "viable outside of the womb lives" they are still lives nonetheless. Is it so wrong for me to be an advocate of allowing children to live? Is it really such an imposition on a woman to carry a pregnancy to term so that a child may live? What is intrinsically wrong with being 100% in favor of life?

Not a fact. No they're not. No, but it's wrong to be violently so. Yes. When you aren't.

[Frisivisia]

If you take a life then you deserve to have your life taken.

Shit, we're going to need to kill a lot of soldiers.

Then we need soldiers to kill the soldiers. Then soldiers to kill those soldiers.

[Wisconsin9]

He echoed your sentiment precisely. Everyone present absolutely does know what you are saying.

If you take a life then you deserve to have your life taken. That's a fact. My point is that we should stop abortion because it is taking lives, even if you dont consider them to be "viable outside of the womb lives" they are still lives nonetheless. Is it so wrong for me to be an advocate of allowing children to live? Is it really such an imposition on a woman to carry a pregnancy to term so that a child may live? What is intrinsically wrong with being 100% in favor of life?

Read a fucking dictionary, for god's sake.

[Divair]

Shit, we're going to need to kill a lot of soldiers.

Then we need soldiers to kill the soldiers. Then soldiers to kill those soldiers.

Infinite loop. Mass suicide on a global scale.

[Zweite Alaje]

I must have missed all the posts in this thread where posters were saying that, and all the pro-choice advocates who say that.

I'll say it proudly. I want every woman in the country who decides to terminate her pregnancy to be able to do it immediately upon making that decision with zero hassle, because it's her decision to make and not yours, and I would appreciate it if all of you fucked off out of other people's medical decisions.

No.

[Desperate Measures]

He echoed your sentiment precisely. Everyone present absolutely does know what you are saying.

If you take a life then you deserve to have your life taken. That's a fact. My point is that we should stop abortion because it is taking lives, even if you dont consider them to be "viable outside of the womb lives" they are still lives nonetheless. Is it so wrong for me to be an advocate of allowing children to live? Is it really such an imposition on a woman to carry a pregnancy to term so that a child may live? What is intrinsically wrong with being 100% in favor of life?

You are at most, like 14% in favor of life.

How about where I pointed out that your bible doesn't advocate the punishment that you do. That's your own fucking belief system, guy. Get your own system straight and then let's talk about mine.

[New Naephak]

I'll say it proudly. I want every woman in the country who decides to terminate her pregnancy to be able to do it immediately upon making that decision with zero hassle, because it's her decision to make and not yours, and I would appreciate it if all of you fucked off out of other people's medical decisions.

No.

Yes.

[Tlaceceyaya]

He echoed your sentiment precisely. Everyone present absolutely does know what you are saying.

If you take a life then you deserve to have your life taken. That's a fact. My point is that we should stop abortion because it is taking lives, even if you dont consider them to be "viable outside of the womb lives" they are still lives nonetheless. Is it so wrong for me to be an advocate of allowing children to live? Is it really such an imposition on a woman to carry a pregnancy to term so that a child may live? What is intrinsically wrong with being 100% in favor of life?

Now it's clear that you're deliberately writing child instead of zygote, embryo or fetus.

And if you're 100% in favour of life, why have the end total be -2 when it could just be -1?

[New England and The Maritimes]

I'll say it proudly. I want every woman in the country who decides to terminate her pregnancy to be able to do it immediately upon making that decision with zero hassle, because it's her decision to make and not yours, and I would appreciate it if all of you fucked off out of other people's medical decisions.

No.

That's fine. We can go on with not accepting your input because it does not matter.

[Costa Alegria]

So by that logic, Kansas is going to treat tumours and cancers as the same thing because apparently a few growing cells feeding off their host is called "life".

[Frisivisia]

I'll say it proudly. I want every woman in the country who decides to terminate her pregnancy to be able to do it immediately upon making that decision with zero hassle, because it's her decision to make and not yours, and I would appreciate it if all of you fucked off out of other people's medical decisions.

No.

Hmm. Let me think of an intelligent and thoughtful counterpoint. Oh, I have it!

Yes.

[Liriena]

He echoed your sentiment precisely. Everyone present absolutely does know what you are saying.

If you take a life then you deserve to have your life taken. That's a fact. My point is that we should stop abortion because it is taking lives, even if you dont consider them to be "viable outside of the womb lives" they are still lives nonetheless. Is it so wrong for me to be an advocate of allowing children to live? Is it really such an imposition on a woman to carry a pregnancy to term so that a child may live? What is intrinsically wrong with being 100% in favor of life?

Human law and the Bible say otherwise. Your barbaric personal moral convictions are irrelevant.

You are not being 100% in favor of life. If you were, you would never propose murder as a solution to murder. If you were 100% in favor of life (as you so vaguely define it), you would oppose the murder of other primates, or the murder of plants and other animal species. Because those are living beings too, and some are far more human than a week-old fetus.

[Imsogone]

He echoed your sentiment precisely. Everyone present absolutely does know what you are saying.

If you take a life then you deserve to have your life taken. That's a fact. My point is that we should stop abortion because it is taking lives, even if you dont consider them to be "viable outside of the womb lives" they are still lives nonetheless. Is it so wrong for me to be an advocate of allowing children to live? Is it really such an imposition on a woman to carry a pregnancy to term so that a child may live? What is intrinsically wrong with being 100% in favor of life?

No, that's an opinion, and a very badly substantiated one, not a fact. And, I repeat my question yet again, hoping against hope that you'll actually answer it. How on earth can you even begin to to call yourself 100% in favor of life when you advocate bloody death for everyone who disagrees with you about abortion? It's contradictory and hypocritical. You are pro-life, but you'd gut a woman "like a fish" if she had an abortion. Really. You are a hypocritical, irrational piece of work and need to get help.

[Transhuman Proteus]

I must have missed all the posts in this thread where posters were saying that, and all the pro-choice advocates who say that.

I'll say it proudly. I want every woman in the country who decides to terminate her pregnancy to be able to do it immediately upon making that decision with zero hassle, because it's her decision to make and not yours, and I would appreciate it if all of you fucked off out of other people's medical decisions.

Personally I agree with you, though it's a slightly different question. Still, Zweite Alaje seems obsessed with his fictional imaginings of what a pro-choice advocate is, thought it'd be worth pointing out practically no one in this thread has said it, and it seems to be something a lot of pro-choice advocates actually disagree on or have no opinion on in the wider world.

[Zweite Alaje]

No.

That's fine. We can go on with not accepting your input because it does not matter.

And we will continue to advocate for it to be illegal. Yay, I'm not a murderous psycho like Spiritwolf, I'm not going to kill a woman when she walks out of an abortion clinic....I might pelt her with eggs though.

[Desperate Measures]

That's fine. We can go on with not accepting your input because it does not matter.

And we will continue to advocate for it to be illegal. Yay, I'm not a murderous psycho like Spiritwolf, I'm not going to kill a woman when she walks out of an abortion clinic....I might pelt her with eggs though.

Would you at least ask if she were there for an abortion before pelting her?

[Zweite Alaje]

And we will continue to advocate for it to be illegal. Yay, I'm not a murderous psycho like Spiritwolf, I'm not going to kill a woman when she walks out of an abortion clinic....I might pelt her with eggs though.

Would you at least ask if she were there for an abortion before pelting her?

No, probably not, to be honest. They could lie.

[Great Nepal]

In light of American failure to revoke statehood of Kansas, I believe it is time for Britain to re-evaluate and revoke Treaty of Paris 1783.