Kansas to enact "Life starts at fertilization" abortion law

[New England and The Maritimes]

Yes. In fact, I won't rest until you can order a french vanilla abortion at Starbucks.

Oh, do you suppose I could get a skinny mocha abortion?

Vente Caramel Machiatto Aborcioccino.

[Desperate Measures]

You sensed a perkiness?

Wishful thinking on my part.

I sensed the despair of a person who's backed himself into a corner, can't find his way out and doesn't have a sense of humor to cushion his inevitable crash and burn.

Yeah but the difference is I grew a soft spot for the Vaz guy. This one is just horrible. Maybe an awkward joke on his part will help but seriously doubting it.

[Frisivisia]

Yes. In fact, I won't rest until you can order a french vanilla abortion at Starbucks.

It sounds like something they'd do, actually.

Here goes your abortion milk shake for that "condition" you have. BOTTOMS UP!!!

Just because you don't understand women's rights doesn't mean you have project a ridiculously inaccurate picture of what they are.

What inaccurate picture?

"Legal all the time for any reason". You're really doing a poor job of the whole "not using logical fallacies" thing.

[Ceannairceach]

What inaccurate picture?

Couldn't possibly be what you were quoted to have said, could it?

[Liriena]

Good job Kansas!

Nope. No. Just...no. Not by a million light years, no. Not at all. In fact...no. Absolutely not. Unbelievably...no. NO

[Imsogone]

Wishful thinking on my part.

I sensed the despair of a person who's backed himself into a corner, can't find his way out and doesn't have a sense of humor to cushion his inevitable crash and burn.

Yeah but the difference is I grew a soft spot for the Vaz guy. This one is just horrible. Maybe an awkward joke on his part will help but seriously doubting it.

Yeah, Vaz did sort of back off, now he's just trolling in the state religion thread. This guy scares me - no boundaries, no perspective, no empathy.

[Spiritwolf]

If we stopped killing the unborn through abortion then no one would die. I believe in a culture of life, not a culture of death.

>claims to support culture of life
>openly wants to kill everyone who's ever had anything to do with an abortion

You're insane.

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

[Zweite Alaje]

WTF?!?! What would make a rapists child any more likely to be a "bad seed" than anyone else? There are numerous people that come form good families that end up being wacko killers or rapists!!!

"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree."

The rapist has violent genes in him and will likely pass down these mental problems to his child. Also the child will likely be unwanted and won't grow up with a father which makes it at a higher risk of being bad.

Learn 2 genetics dear, that's not how inheritance works. It isn't nearly as straight forward and direct as most people think.

Also, 2000 year old toilet paper written by halluccinating men is a bad basis for morality.

[Divair]

Yeah but the difference is I grew a soft spot for the Vaz guy. This one is just horrible. Maybe an awkward joke on his part will help but seriously doubting it.

Yeah, Vaz did sort of back off, now he's just trolling in the state religion thread. This guy scares me - no boundaries, no perspective, no empathy.

Afaik he's young. Maybe it's just a phase.

[Pine Mountain]

This is why gun rights are so important- gun rights serve to protect the freedoms of embryo screening and abortion (among other freedoms). Luckily the idiot republicans don't realize that, so Kansas still has good gun rights. So, if some theocratic Kansas cops try to kidnap (aka 'arrest', as it's called when cops do it) women and doctors for having/performing embryo screening or aborting a fetus with a serious defect or rapist genes, then the well-armed women and doctors can blow the theocratic cops' heads off in self-defense. That is what the second amendment is meant for. There WILL be blood. And anyone who is evil enough to kill, or promote the killing of, people who exercise or defend that fundamental bodily freedom, as Spiritwolf is, does not deserve to die so quickly and cleanly, but should instead be slowly fed feet-first into a wood-chipper.

And women are slowly waking up to the fact that the behavior of imposing such theocratic tyranny is caused by genetic alleles which create vulgar freedom-disrupting character- genetic alleles which are a cancer upon our nation, which can only be countered by propagating the alleles of fine freedom-respecting character at a very high rate -that is, for secular freedom-supporting couples to make many [intended, non-defective] offspring.

[Tlaceceyaya]

>claims to support culture of life
>openly wants to kill everyone who's ever had anything to do with an abortion

You're insane.

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

Then prove it, before you advocate the murder of people who provide medical procedures, partake in them or have anything to do with them.

[Desperate Measures]

>claims to support culture of life
>openly wants to kill everyone who's ever had anything to do with an abortion

You're insane.

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

Judge not lest ye be something or other?

[Transhuman Proteus]

>claims to support culture of life
>openly wants to kill everyone who's ever had anything to do with an abortion

You're insane.

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

You don't like responding to posts that make you look silly, do you?

Care to provide the part of the Bible where Jesus says you should wish death on others, talk about how you'd kill your wife, judge people and all the rest of the nonsense you've spouted?

Ooops, no, wait, he said the opposite. Don't judge, don't kill... so basically you are a terrible Christian.

[Wisconsin9]

>claims to support culture of life
>openly wants to kill everyone who's ever had anything to do with an abortion

You're insane.

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

And there's no less than 13 additional reasons for me to think you're insane.

[Frisivisia]

>claims to support culture of life
>openly wants to kill everyone who's ever had anything to do with an abortion

You're insane.

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

I do not believe in God. I believe we have ourselves, and nothing else. I do not believe that when you die you go somewhere else. I also happen to believe that killing people is bad, but I hold this for everyone, not just those deemed "innocent". I also believe in the right to bodily sovereignty. Therefore, I believe that abortion should be legal, safe, and rare. By the way, the "American Holocaust" pertains to the Native Americans, not non-sapient, non-sentient beings unable to survive outside of another creature's body.

[Ceannairceach]

>claims to support culture of life
>openly wants to kill everyone who's ever had anything to do with an abortion

You're insane.

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

I don't believe in a god. I know that we all have a physical body and mind, and anything beyond that is speculation without evidence. I do not believe that there is an afterlife to go to, nor do I believe in a final judgement. I know that murder is illegal. I also know that no baby has ever died innocently due to an abortion, nor have any cried as a result of being aborted. I believe your open hatred of women should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, need to stand up to your idiocy, lest we all be held accountable when you do something incredibly stupid and astoundingly illegal. You are the American fool, screaming to the drum of hate and ignorance of the willful sort.

[Frisivisia]

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

I don't believe in a god. I know that we all have a physical body and mind, and anything beyond that is speculation without evidence. I do not believe that there is an afterlife to go to, nor do I believe in a final judgement. I know that murder is illegal. I also know that no baby has ever died innocently due to an abortion, nor have any cried as a result of being aborted. I believe your open hatred of women should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, need to stand up to your idiocy, lest we all be held accountable when you do something incredibly stupid and astoundingly illegal. You are the American fool, screaming to the drum of hate and ignorance of the willful sort.

Bah hah hah. Ninja'd you.

[Imsogone]

>claims to support culture of life
>openly wants to kill everyone who's ever had anything to do with an abortion

You're insane.

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

Then why don't you back off and let your purported deity deal with it. He/she/it or they do know better what they want than you do. I doubt very much that he/she/it or they would condone your attempt to call death down on people with whom you disagree.

I would not call death on you even though I do think you're a sociopathic menace who, for the good society, should be restrained. In point of fact, I think your batshit wackadoodle, but deserving of death just because you want to kill everyone who condones abortions, no.

[Desperate Measures]

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

You don't like responding to posts that make you look silly, do you?

Care to provide the part of the Bible where Jesus says you should wish death on others, talk about how you'd kill your wife, judge people and all the rest of the nonsense you've spouted?

Ooops, no, wait, he said the opposite. Don't be a judge, don't kill...

"But Exodus 21:22 reads:
When people who are fighting injure a pregnant woman so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no further harm follows, the one responsible shall be fined what the woman's husband demands, paying as much as the judges determine."
http://civilliberty.about.com/od/aborti ... ortion.htm

He doesn't even have the bible to fall back on. A fine. No killing. No murder. No bloody rampage. A fucking fine.

[Ceannairceach]

I don't believe in a god. I know that we all have a physical body and mind, and anything beyond that is speculation without evidence. I do not believe that there is an afterlife to go to, nor do I believe in a final judgement. I know that murder is illegal. I also know that no baby has ever died innocently due to an abortion, nor have any cried as a result of being aborted. I believe your open hatred of women should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, need to stand up to your idiocy, lest we all be held accountable when you do something incredibly stupid and astoundingly illegal. You are the American fool, screaming to the drum of hate and ignorance of the willful sort.

Bah hah hah. Ninja'd you.

Mine is longer, unedited and more in line with the post. You're more like a prequel. The opening act. The obsolete prototype.

[Frisivisia]

Bah hah hah. Ninja'd you.

Mine is longer, unedited and more in line with the post. You're more like a prequel. The opening act. The obsolete prototype.

You're more like the longer, shitty remake that no one liked.

[Ceannairceach]

Mine is longer, unedited and more in line with the post. You're more like a prequel. The opening act. The obsolete prototype.

You're more like the longer, shitty remake that no one liked.

Still grossed more money than your silly b-movie edition.

[Freiheit Reich]

"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree."

The rapist has violent genes in him and will likely pass down these mental problems to his child. Also the child will likely be unwanted and won't grow up with a father which makes it at a higher risk of being bad.

Source?

Could not find direct source. A rape victim's child will probably face a higher rate of abuse than a normal child. IF this is true than:

http://www.safehorizon.org/index/what-w ... s-304.html

According to a National Institute of Justice study, abused and neglected children were 11 times more likely to engage in criminal behavior as teens, are 2.7 times more likely to be arrested for violent and criminal behavior as an adult, and are 3.1 times more likely to be arrested for one of many forms of violent crime.

[Liriena]

>claims to support culture of life
>openly wants to kill everyone who's ever had anything to do with an abortion

You're insane.

I believe in God. I believe that we all have a physical body, a soul, and a spirit. I believe that when the physical body dies in this world the soul and spirit go on to the next world where we all will be held accountable for our actions. I believe shedding the blood of the innocent is a very severe sin to commit. And I believe that the blood of over 60 million innocent babies, and counting, cries out to God as we speak. I believe this loss of life should be ended NOW. We all, as Americans, bear the blood of the innocent on our hands by allowing this to happen and by allowing it to continue and we will ALL be held accountable for it on judgement day. This is truly the American "Holocaust", and it is a slaughter of some 60 million and counting.

Well, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the Biblical God had no respect for the lives of children (in fact, he was happy to commit mass infanticide all the time), and he was very clear in his belief that life begins with the first breath, not conception.

So you can shove your misrepresentation of "God" up your ass.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Just because you don't understand women's rights doesn't mean you have project a ridiculously inaccurate picture of what they are.

What inaccurate picture?

I must have missed all the posts in this thread where posters were saying that, and all the pro-choice advocates who say that.