Kansas to enact "Life starts at fertilization" abortion law

[Ceannairceach]

Don't. It's easy to get sucked in. Sociopathic types are not stupid. They have no empathy and see nothing beyond their own egos. They can be quite charming and chilling in their pathology.

I see 60 million and counting murdered American children that were killed by heartless and selfish people through the act of abortion. That is what I see and it must stop NOW.

Yes, because the mothers with children who make up the majority of the women who get abortions are obviously heartless and selfish. Shame on them for thinking that they cannot support another child when their family already has one or more. Creatures of hell, I say!

[Spiritwolf]

Choose not to kill children in the womb. Choose to value life for ALL people. That is all i am saying here, and yes, i am saying it with absolute conviction.

Yet your previous statements consistently prove that you don't value life at all. You may have a fetish for fetuses, but have no respect whatsoever for the life of women, if you are willing to murder them for something that is only ambiguously "immoral" according to hard cold logic.

Anyone who takes a life deserves to die. That includes all of those selfish, cold hearted, baby killing women who have abortions. That includes the men who help them pay for the abortions. That includes the Doctors and nurses who perform the abortions. That includes the Legislators who legalized abortions. That even includes the security guards outside who are protecting the abortion clinics as they murder babies.

[Ceannairceach]

Stupid law is stupid. Abortion is necessary. Next?

Just law is just. Abortion is evil. Next?

Ha! No. When abortion doesn't contribute to saving the lives of the sentient and living, and doesn't help protect my right to bodily sovereignty, it will be a just law. Until then, kindly keep your trap shut.

[Ceannairceach]

Yet your previous statements consistently prove that you don't value life at all. You may have a fetish for fetuses, but have no respect whatsoever for the life of women, if you are willing to murder them for something that is only ambiguously "immoral" according to hard cold logic.

Anyone who takes a life deserves to die. That includes all of those selfish, cold hearted, baby killing women who have abortions. That includes the men who help them pay for the abortions. That includes the Doctors and nurses who perform the abortions. That includes the Legislators who legalized abortions. That even includes the security guards outside who are protecting the abortion clinics as they murder babies.

So since you are demanding their deaths, you deserve to die, right?

Works for me. Report to the nearest Circular Death Center, please.

[Imsogone]

Yet your previous statements consistently prove that you don't value life at all. You may have a fetish for fetuses, but have no respect whatsoever for the life of women, if you are willing to murder them for something that is only ambiguously "immoral" according to hard cold logic.

Anyone who takes a life deserves to die. That includes all of those selfish, cold hearted, baby killing women who have abortions. That includes the men who help them pay for the abortions. That includes the Doctors and nurses who perform the abortions. That includes the Legislators who legalized abortions. That even includes the security guards outside who are protecting the abortion clinics as they murder babies.

Well, that'll certainly take care of the population problem.

Honey, get a grip, pro-lifers advocating death to anyone who disagrees with them can't be taken seriously as pro-lifers. As candidates for 72-hour observation and strong medications, yes, but not as pro-lifers. Really, you need help. At very least for the safety of the people around you, you should be committed.

[Frisivisia]

Yet your previous statements consistently prove that you don't value life at all. You may have a fetish for fetuses, but have no respect whatsoever for the life of women, if you are willing to murder them for something that is only ambiguously "immoral" according to hard cold logic.

Anyone who takes a life deserves to die. That includes all of those selfish, cold hearted, baby killing women who have abortions. That includes the men who help them pay for the abortions. That includes the Doctors and nurses who perform the abortions. That includes the Legislators who legalized abortions. That even includes the security guards outside who are protecting the abortion clinics as they murder babies.

Seek help. Please. Find Jesus, lose Jesus, go to a psychiatrist, get into pottery, whatever, but this is fucking scary, and I'm reading this on a forum on the internet.

[Desperate Measures]

Yet your previous statements consistently prove that you don't value life at all. You may have a fetish for fetuses, but have no respect whatsoever for the life of women, if you are willing to murder them for something that is only ambiguously "immoral" according to hard cold logic.

Anyone who takes a life deserves to die. That includes all of those selfish, cold hearted, baby killing women who have abortions. That includes the men who help them pay for the abortions. That includes the Doctors and nurses who perform the abortions. That includes the Legislators who legalized abortions. That even includes the security guards outside who are protecting the abortion clinics as they murder babies.

So you want to kill me because I helped a friend get her abortion?

[Transhuman Proteus]

Yet your previous statements consistently prove that you don't value life at all. You may have a fetish for fetuses, but have no respect whatsoever for the life of women, if you are willing to murder them for something that is only ambiguously "immoral" according to hard cold logic.

Anyone who takes a life deserves to die. That includes all of those selfish, cold hearted, baby killing women who have abortions. That includes the men who help them pay for the abortions. That includes the Doctors and nurses who perform the abortions. That includes the Legislators who legalized abortions. That even includes the security guards outside who are protecting the abortion clinics as they murder babies.

Does it include soldiers?

[Spiritwolf]

I see 60 million and counting murdered American children that were killed by heartless and selfish people through the act of abortion. That is what I see and it must stop NOW.

Yes, because the mothers with children who make up the majority of the women who get abortions are obviously heartless and selfish. Shame on them for thinking that they cannot support another child when their family already has one or more. Creatures of hell, I say!

I've lost count of the women I know personally who use abortion as a method of "birth control". They make no attempt to utilize any form of contraception and they are very active sexually, with MANY partners. They then simply go get an abortion whenever they become pregnant. THAT IS MURDER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

[Liriena]

Yet your previous statements consistently prove that you don't value life at all. You may have a fetish for fetuses, but have no respect whatsoever for the life of women, if you are willing to murder them for something that is only ambiguously "immoral" according to hard cold logic.

1) Anyone who takes a life deserves to die.

2) That includes all of those selfish, cold hearted, baby killing women who have abortions.

3) That includes the men who help them pay for the abortions.

4) That includes the Doctors and nurses who perform the abortions.

5) That includes the Legislators who legalized abortions.

6) That even includes the security guards outside who are protecting the abortion clinics as they murder babies.

1) Most of the world's laws say otherwise. Especially if you count cattle, insects, plants and enemy soldiers as lives that, when taken, require death as punishment.

2) No, for all the reasons already explained to you.

3) No, for all the reasons already explained to you.

4) No, for all the reasons already explained to you.

5) Thomas Hobbes is laughing his ass off.

6) No, for all the reasons already explained to you.

Thanks for playing, now let the mentally healthy, civilized adults talk, alright?

[Transhuman Proteus]

Anyone who takes a life deserves to die. That includes all of those selfish, cold hearted, baby killing women who have abortions. That includes the men who help them pay for the abortions. That includes the Doctors and nurses who perform the abortions. That includes the Legislators who legalized abortions. That even includes the security guards outside who are protecting the abortion clinics as they murder babies.

So you want to kill me because I helped a friend get her abortion?

Can't you tell how much he loves life?

[Liriena]

Yes, because the mothers with children who make up the majority of the women who get abortions are obviously heartless and selfish. Shame on them for thinking that they cannot support another child when their family already has one or more. Creatures of hell, I say!

I've lost count of the women I know personally who use abortion as a method of "birth control". They make no attempt to utilize any form of contraception and they are very active sexually, with MANY partners. They then simply go get an abortion whenever they become pregnant. THAT IS MURDER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

Not under American law. Either abide by the law of your nation, or peacefully campaign against it. The moment you use violent means as your form of advocacy, you become no different from Al-Qaeda.

[Imsogone]

Anyone who takes a life deserves to die. That includes all of those selfish, cold hearted, baby killing women who have abortions. That includes the men who help them pay for the abortions. That includes the Doctors and nurses who perform the abortions. That includes the Legislators who legalized abortions. That even includes the security guards outside who are protecting the abortion clinics as they murder babies.

So you want to kill me because I helped a friend get her abortion?

He'll kill us all. I loaned a friend money so she could get an abortion, I guess I deserve death, too.

[Ceannairceach]

Yes, because the mothers with children who make up the majority of the women who get abortions are obviously heartless and selfish. Shame on them for thinking that they cannot support another child when their family already has one or more. Creatures of hell, I say!

I've lost count of the women I know personally who use abortion as a method of "birth control". They make no attempt to utilize any form of contraception and they are very active sexually, with MANY partners. They then simply go get an abortion whenever they become pregnant. THAT IS MURDER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

Yeah, no. Most women who get abortions are already mothers. And who cares if they did or did not use protection? It is there body, to do with as they wish.

Murder it is not, for it does not meet the legal definition. Buy a fucking dictionary.

[Frisivisia]

Yes, because the mothers with children who make up the majority of the women who get abortions are obviously heartless and selfish. Shame on them for thinking that they cannot support another child when their family already has one or more. Creatures of hell, I say!

I've lost count of the women I know personally who use abortion as a method of "birth control". They make no attempt to utilize any form of contraception and they are very active sexually, with MANY partners. They then simply go get an abortion whenever they become pregnant. THAT IS MURDER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

The voices in your head don't count as people, just so you know.

[Freiheit Reich]

I get the idea but I dislike it. It seems hard to think of something as fully human until it pops out of the woman's belly.

Biologically anti-abortion people are right and I am wrong but I still believe the pros of abortion outweigh the cons, especially in cases of rape. A rapist's child is a bad seed and it is likely to become a bad person itself.

I have a feeling God would support this bill though. I believe God would be anti-abortion.

[Desperate Measures]

Yes, because the mothers with children who make up the majority of the women who get abortions are obviously heartless and selfish. Shame on them for thinking that they cannot support another child when their family already has one or more. Creatures of hell, I say!

I've lost count of the women I know personally who use abortion as a method of "birth control". They make no attempt to utilize any form of contraception and they are very active sexually, with MANY partners. They then simply go get an abortion whenever they become pregnant. THAT IS MURDER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I think you either need to start retracting some statements involving murdering people or just take off. All that's up now is us responding to your shock value and there is no substance remaining in your arguments.

[Spiritwolf]

Anyone who takes a life deserves to die. That includes all of those selfish, cold hearted, baby killing women who have abortions. That includes the men who help them pay for the abortions. That includes the Doctors and nurses who perform the abortions. That includes the Legislators who legalized abortions. That even includes the security guards outside who are protecting the abortion clinics as they murder babies.

Does it include soldiers?

A soldier on active duty in service to his nation and in uniform who kills an enemy combatant is not guilty of murder. Someone who takes a life in self-defense is not guilty of murder. If someone in the audience had returned fire on that shooter in the movie theater, thereby causing his death, then that is justifiable self-defense and it is not murder.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Yes, because the mothers with children who make up the majority of the women who get abortions are obviously heartless and selfish. Shame on them for thinking that they cannot support another child when their family already has one or more. Creatures of hell, I say!

I've lost count of the women I know personally who use abortion as a method of "birth control". They make no attempt to utilize any form of contraception and they are very active sexually, with MANY partners. They then simply go get an abortion whenever they become pregnant. THAT IS MURDER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

Sure you do. Surrrrrre. You're here raging on the internet about how you'd kill your wife if she had an abortion and listing all the people you think should be dead, yet apparently you're such a lovely guy heaps of girls and women have shared such a private thing as that with you, and continue to share with you how much they're using it like birth control. "Oh hey guy who talks about killing people who have had an abortion or provide abortions, I had another abortion today, that's 20 this month!"

Bull. Shit.

The "many women use abortion as birth control" is a myth.

[Frisivisia]

I get the idea but I dislike it. It seems hard to think of something as fully human until it pops out of the woman's belly.

Biologically anti-abortion people are right and I am wrong but I still believe the pros of abortion outweigh the cons, especially in cases of rape. A rapist's child is a bad seed and it is likely to become a bad person itself.

I have a feeling God would support this bill though. I believe God would be anti-abortion.

Right conclusion, very wrong reasons.

[Ceannairceach]

Does it include soldiers?

A soldier on active duty in service to his nation and in uniform who kills an enemy combatant is not guilty of murder. Someone who takes a life in self-defense is not guilty of murder. If someone in the audience had returned fire on that shooter in the movie theater, thereby causing his death, then that is justifiable self-defense and it is not murder.

So abortion is self-defense, then. The fetus is trying to harm the woman, and thus its termination is the woman defending herself.

[Ceannairceach]

I get the idea but I dislike it. It seems hard to think of something as fully human until it pops out of the woman's belly.

Biologically anti-abortion people are right and I am wrong but I still believe the pros of abortion outweigh the cons, especially in cases of rape. A rapist's child is a bad seed and it is likely to become a bad person itself.

I have a feeling God would support this bill though. I believe God would be anti-abortion.

Right conclusion, very wrong reasons.

Its like he's trying to make me cringe in my little boots.

[Spiritwolf]

I've lost count of the women I know personally who use abortion as a method of "birth control". They make no attempt to utilize any form of contraception and they are very active sexually, with MANY partners. They then simply go get an abortion whenever they become pregnant. THAT IS MURDER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

I think you either need to start retracting some statements involving murdering people or just take off. All that's up now is us responding to your shock value and there is no substance remaining in your arguments.

The substance of my argument is that even an unborn child in the womb has a right to live. That is my whole point here.

[Imsogone]

Yes, because the mothers with children who make up the majority of the women who get abortions are obviously heartless and selfish. Shame on them for thinking that they cannot support another child when their family already has one or more. Creatures of hell, I say!

I've lost count of the women I know personally who use abortion as a method of "birth control". They make no attempt to utilize any form of contraception and they are very active sexually, with MANY partners. They then simply go get an abortion whenever they become pregnant. THAT IS MURDER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

So when my husband wouldn't pay for birth control for me and refused to use a condom, did I have a right to deny him sex? And if I got pregnant because my idiot asshole ex husband guilted me into having sex with him because "it was his right" did I have no right to have an abortion. I had two kids under two years of age and I was not ever going to get pregnant again if I had anything to say about it, but he had other ideas. And somehow, I was the villain not him. Your reasoning is asinine, your logic sucks and your humanity is suspect.

[Liriena]

I get the idea but I dislike it. It seems hard to think of something as fully human until it pops out of the woman's belly.

Biologically anti-abortion people are right and I am wrong but I still believe the pros of abortion outweigh the cons, especially in cases of rape. A rapist's child is a bad seed and it is likely to become a bad person itself.

I have a feeling God would support this bill though. I believe God would be anti-abortion.

Actually, if one takes the Bible literally, God is most likely pro-abortion, since he repeatedly states that life begins with the first breath, not conception.