Kansas to enact "Life starts at fertilization" abortion law

[Enadail]

Humanity was designed by evolution.

Design requires intention. Evolution has no intention. Humanity was not designed.

Impact dynamic, of course designed to protect you IF you crash, not FOR you to crash.

I didn't say its for you to crash. I said cars are designed to crash; which they are. Cars are specifically designed to crash with minimal damage because its known that cars crash, and when people crash, they don't want to be hurt, even though they knew its a possibility when they started driving. Their choice to start driving did not consent to one of the likely outcomes: a crash.

The human body has reproductive organs designed for reproduction.

We have eyes for seeing. See how pointless that is? We do our best to correct our vision, or choose not to if we don't want to.

It has nothing to do with design or ability: its whether the fetus has rights, if so, what rights and why.

[Threlizdun]

Not children and not people. Jesus Christ, guys, there's this thing called a "dictionary" that really helps when you try to define words.

Please stop. This is someone who has admitted to having a wife and admitted they are willing to kill them over this. You do not follow and arguement that says "I will murder my wife" with an attempt at rational discourse. This is a person who is a danger to everyone they are around.

[Imsogone]

If my Wife aborted my child I would gut her like a fish. That's a fact. A life for a life. Carrying a pregnancy to term is a small thing when put in the balance against taking a childs life through an abortion. You make your choice and I will make mine. And I will sleep like a baby with a clear conscience, believe me.

Dude, wtf? The most I'd do is divorce her.

Amazing, of the two of you, you seem like the sane one. And yet...

[Enadail]

I'm good with that. How do I add someone to that block list I hear so much of?

Click on the name underneath their flag. This will direct you to their profile page. From there, click "add foe".

Thanks.

[Frisivisia]

If my Wife aborted my child I would gut her like a fish. That's a fact. A life for a life. Carrying a pregnancy to term is a small thing when put in the balance against taking a childs life through an abortion. You make your choice and I will make mine. And I will sleep like a baby with a clear conscience, believe me.

Dude, wtf? The most I'd do is divorce her.

Unfortunately, the problem with the ignorance displayed in much of the Religious, Right-Wing Pro-Life movement is that they feel that violence is acceptable when their cause calls for it. Abortion Clinic bombings and such.

[Desperate Measures]

If my Wife aborted my child I would gut her like a fish. That's a fact. A life for a life. Carrying a pregnancy to term is a small thing when put in the balance against taking a childs life through an abortion. You make your choice and I will make mine. And I will sleep like a baby with a clear conscience, believe me.

Now...THAT is not kosher.

I'd tell him it was a "miscarriage", too.

[Wisconsin9]

Not children and not people. Jesus Christ, guys, there's this thing called a "dictionary" that really helps when you try to define words.

Please stop. This is someone who has admitted to having a wife and admitted they are willing to kill them over this. You do not follow and arguement that says "I will murder my wife" with an attempt at rational discourse. This is a person who is a danger to everyone they are around.

Argh. Dammit. I feel stupid now.

[Zweite Alaje]

Dude, wtf? The most I'd do is divorce her.

Unfortunately, the problem with the ignorance displayed in much of the Religious, Right-Wing Pro-Life movement is that they feel that violence is acceptable when their cause calls for it. Abortion Clinic bombings and such.

Indeed, I'd never kill someone over a domestic disagreement. I don't believe in taking the law into my own hands, that goes against my belief in social order.

[Zweite Alaje]

Dude, wtf? The most I'd do is divorce her.

Amazing, of the two of you, you seem like the sane one. And yet...

And yet......?

[Imsogone]

Please stop. This is someone who has admitted to having a wife and admitted they are willing to kill them over this. You do not follow and arguement that says "I will murder my wife" with an attempt at rational discourse. This is a person who is a danger to everyone they are around.

Argh. Dammit. I feel stupid now.

Don't. It's easy to get sucked in. Sociopathic types are not stupid. They have no empathy and see nothing beyond their own egos. They can be quite charming and chilling in their pathology.

[Spiritwolf]

If my Wife aborted my child I would gut her like a fish. That's a fact. A life for a life. Carrying a pregnancy to term is a small thing when put in the balance against taking a childs life through an abortion. You make your choice and I will make mine. And I will sleep like a baby with a clear conscience, believe me.

Anyone who can advocate murder with a clear conscience has no place in civilized society

Then how do you and all of these other people like you stand up here and advocate murdering unborn children in the womb with a clear conscience?? Like it's nothing. You do not belong in a civilized society.

[Frisivisia]

Anyone who can advocate murder with a clear conscience has no place in civilized society

Then how do you and all of these other people like you stand up here and advocate murdering unborn children in the womb with a clear conscience?? Like it's nothing. You do not belong in a civilized society.

*not murder

*not children

*not advocating

*not acting as if it's nothing

Plus, last I checked, you were the one bragging about how you would gut your wife "like a fish" because gutting her like some other animal would be ridiculous.

[Imsogone]

Anyone who can advocate murder with a clear conscience has no place in civilized society

Then how do you and all of these other people like you stand up here and advocate murdering unborn children in the womb with a clear conscience?? Like it's nothing. You do not belong in a civilized society.

Because it's not murder until after the child can survive on it's own outside the womb.

[Liriena]

Anyone who can advocate murder with a clear conscience has no place in civilized society

Then how do you and all of these other people like you stand up here and advocate murdering unborn children in the womb with a clear conscience?? Like it's nothing. You do not belong in a civilized society.

Big difference: A fetus' personhood is debatable (and only because people like you suddenly decided to appear when abortion suddenly became a social reality...Where the fuck were you for the centuries before that, when every society agreed that life began at birth?).
A woman's personhood is not up to debate, and you killing one over the death of an ambiguously human creature is murder in any jurisdiction.

[Spiritwolf]

Argh. Dammit. I feel stupid now.

Don't. It's easy to get sucked in. Sociopathic types are not stupid. They have no empathy and see nothing beyond their own egos. They can be quite charming and chilling in their pathology.

I see 60 million and counting murdered American children that were killed by heartless and selfish people through the act of abortion. That is what I see and it must stop NOW.

[Desperate Measures]

Anyone who can advocate murder with a clear conscience has no place in civilized society

Then how do you and all of these other people like you stand up here and advocate murdering unborn children in the womb with a clear conscience?? Like it's nothing. You do not belong in a civilized society.

Your civil society of vigilante husbands murdering their wives. Yeah. Not for me.

[Frisivisia]

Don't. It's easy to get sucked in. Sociopathic types are not stupid. They have no empathy and see nothing beyond their own egos. They can be quite charming and chilling in their pathology.

I see 60 million and counting murdered American children that were killed by heartless and selfish people through the act of abortion. That is what I see and it must stop NOW.

Because issues are black and white, huh? Your dualistic perception of reality goes a long way toward showing why you have such childishly stupid views.

[New Naephak]

I see

Doesn't make it true.

[Imsogone]

Don't. It's easy to get sucked in. Sociopathic types are not stupid. They have no empathy and see nothing beyond their own egos. They can be quite charming and chilling in their pathology.

I see 60 million and counting murdered American children that were killed by heartless and selfish people through the act of abortion. That is what I see and it must stop NOW.

And I see 3,000,000,000 odd women being oppressed by a few egotistical men who think their egos must define everything. That is what I see and it must stop NOW>

[Liriena]

Don't. It's easy to get sucked in. Sociopathic types are not stupid. They have no empathy and see nothing beyond their own egos. They can be quite charming and chilling in their pathology.

I see 60 million and counting murdered American children that were killed by heartless and selfish people through the act of abortion. That is what I see and it must stop NOW.

Yeah, but human law does not work on an "eye for an eye" basis anymore, fuck that very much. So you can't go on a killing spree.
Don't like abortion, campaign against it. Don't break the law by murdering those who practice or advocate for abortion, because that will make you just as barbaric as those murderer's who you declared less than human.

[Zweite Alaje]

Anyone who can advocate murder with a clear conscience has no place in civilized society

Then how do you and all of these other people like you stand up here and advocate murdering unborn children in the womb with a clear conscience?? Like it's nothing. You do not belong in a civilized society.

People in a civilized society don't resort to vigilantism when they disagree with countrymen over policy, even if it is completely opposed to ones ethos.

[Ceannairceach]

Stupid law is stupid. Abortion is necessary. Next?

[Zweite Alaje]

Stupid law is stupid. Abortion is necessary. Next?

Just law is just. Abortion is evil. Next?

[Desperate Measures]

Stupid law is stupid. Abortion is necessary. Next?

Sure. Just come in and win the entire fucking thread.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Dude, wtf? The most I'd do is divorce her.

Unfortunately, the problem with the ignorance displayed in much of the Religious, Right-Wing Pro-Life movement is that they feel that violence is acceptable when their cause calls for it. Abortion Clinic bombings and such.

Life is so sacred.... I'm prepared to kill for it.

Radical Religious, Right-Wing Pro-Life - The Movie