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Postby Divair » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:58 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:No it's not... because then you can persecute according to that religion.

Norway has a state religion.

And?

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:58 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:No it's not... because then you can persecute according to that religion.

Norway has a state religion.

And why is it good?
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:58 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Vazdania wrote:SO yes, a state religion is good. Like Norway!


No it's not.

Yes it is. Norway has a state religion and I see no harm.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:58 pm

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The Biased Conservatives wrote:
What do they believe? Norwegian?

They believe in Njord, God of beautiful feet and powerful winds, but only some of them.

Polytheism is generally more tolerant.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:58 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Their state religion is a type of Lutheranism

You ever read his book.... On the Jews and their Lies?

He was getting old and crazy, don't be hatin'.
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Postby Imsogone » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:58 pm

Monlyth wrote:
The Rich Port wrote::lol:

I thought "many" meant like 7 people.
Seven or more people being your primary definition of the word "many"? :unsure:


Technically, the definition of many is more than twenty - twenty being the number of fingers and twos the average person has.
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Postby New Belhavia » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:58 pm

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Yeah. I'm one of those real Christians you hear about every once in a while.

I thought those were a myth. Like unicorns and moderate Republicans.


Moderate Republicans definitely exist. :eyebrow:
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Postby Menassa » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:59 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:No it's not... because then you can persecute according to that religion.

Norway has a state religion.

Norway v'oid l'kra?

Is Norway a proof to anything?
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Postby Imsogone » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:59 pm

New Belhavia wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I thought those were a myth. Like unicorns and moderate Republicans.


Moderate Republicans definitely exist. :eyebrow:


Yes, we do.
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Postby Divair » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:59 pm

New Belhavia wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I thought those were a myth. Like unicorns and moderate Republicans.


Moderate Republicans definitely exist. :eyebrow:

Right. They're called Democrats.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:59 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Yeah. I'm one of those real Christians you hear about every once in a while.

:roll: sure. (basically an Apostate)

I guarantee I've forgotten more theology than you'll ever know. What happens when you have a pastor for a father.
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Postby The Hanza » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:59 pm

Menassa wrote:
The Hanza wrote:They believe in Njord, God of beautiful feet and powerful winds, but only some of them.

Polytheism is generally more tolerant.

That's why, if I'm not feeling in my normally athiest mood, I tend to either pretend I'm a Deist or a pagan.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:00 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Menassa wrote:You ever read his book.... On the Jews and their Lies?

He was getting old and crazy, don't be hatin'.

I think you need to reexamine who is hating who.... or whom...
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Postby Menassa » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:00 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Menassa wrote:You ever read his book.... On the Jews and their Lies?

He was getting old and crazy, don't be hatin'.

I think you need to reexamine who is hating who.... or whom...
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:00 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Menassa wrote:You ever read his book.... On the Jews and their Lies?

He was getting old and crazy, don't be hatin'.

I think you need to reexamine who is hating who.... or whom...
Radical Monotheist
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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Divair » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:00 pm

Imsogone wrote:
Monlyth wrote:Seven or more people being your primary definition of the word "many"? :unsure:


Technically, the definition of many is more than twenty - twenty being the number of fingers and twos the average person has.

Huh. Today I learnt.

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:00 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:No it's not... because then you can persecute according to that religion.

Norway has a state religion.


And it didn't allow freedom of religion.... until 1964.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:00 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Norway has a state religion.

Norway v'oid l'kra?

Is Norway a proof to anything?

Proof that it doesn't have a negative effect on the culture.
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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:00 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Mike the Progressive wrote:
I actually had not (in both cases).

Well, there ya go then. You said something wise, true, and simple. Job well done. ;)


This I know. I do it all the time :P I just don't think I'm quoted enough hehe.

But thanks man, I appreciate it :)

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:00 pm

New Belhavia wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I thought those were a myth. Like unicorns and moderate Republicans.


Moderate Republicans definitely exist. :eyebrow:

You scare me.

Anyway, they're extremely rare. And, NB, compared to the liberals in here, you aren't moderate.
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Postby Vazdania » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:00 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Norway has a state religion.


And it didn't allow freedom of religion.... until 1964.

when even in America we were dealing with things like civil rights.
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Postby Menassa » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:01 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Norway v'oid l'kra?

Is Norway a proof to anything?

Proof that it doesn't have a negative effect on the culture.

No it's not... one place getting away with it (loosely) does not make up for thousands of European and Muslim countries (some of those countries are still morally reprehensible today).
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:01 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Norway v'oid l'kra?

Is Norway a proof to anything?

Proof that it doesn't have a negative effect on the culture.

No it's not... one place getting away with it (loosely) does not make up for thousands of European and Muslim countries (some of those countries are still morally reprehensible today).
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:01 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Norway v'oid l'kra?

Is Norway a proof to anything?

Proof that it doesn't have a negative effect on the culture.

No it's not... one place getting away with it (loosely) does not make up for thousands of European and Muslim countries (some of those countries are still morally reprehensible today).
Radical Monotheist
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This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:01 pm

Vazdania wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
And it didn't allow freedom of religion.... until 1964.

when even in America we were dealing with things like civil rights.

Non-responsive. Why is a state religion good?
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And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
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