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Honestly I think this is Bullshit... Is it?

Yes they are overreacting.
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No Death threats are serious!
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Teenager Making "Death Threats" Faces Possible Expulsion

Postby Meldaria » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:28 pm

A 13 year old was accused of threatening to kill two students at a middle school. They filed their witness reports and the young boy faces possible expulsion. According to the 13 year old being accused he was only making a joke. He said it was in this context. "Hey man move the desk over there." Witness 1. "Man I will keeel you.." The second incident is seperate from the first and he claims he barely remembers it and is sure he was joking. He said he was only quoting a movie and meant no threat and that he was just fooling around and meant no harm whatsoever. The school seems to be taking this very seriously. Is this bullshit?
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Postby Tokos » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:29 pm

I've heard this sort of thing is quite common in American schools (the overreaction), if true, mightn't that be behind this?
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:30 pm

So doing a lousy Achmed the Dead Terrorist impression is grounds for expulsion?

And they say Zero Tolerance is too harsh...
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Postby Wanderjar » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:51 pm

Yeah, and if he actually killed the students you all would be freaking out about how they should've taken action earlier :roll:
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Postby JuNii » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:52 pm

Gauthier wrote:So doing a lousy Achmed the Dead Terrorist impression is grounds for expulsion?

And they say Zero Tolerance is too harsh...


Two points to consider.

1) I would like a link to an article where the OP got this. and two...

Meldaria wrote:A 13 year old was accused of threatening to kill two students at a middle school. They filed their witness reports and the young boy faces possible expulsion. According to the 13 year old being accused he was only making a joke. He said it was in this context. "Hey man move the desk over there." Witness 1. "Man I will keeel you.." The second incident is seperate from the first and he claims he barely remembers it and is sure he was joking. He said he was only quoting a movie and meant no threat and that he was just fooling around and meant no harm whatsoever. The school seems to be taking this very seriously. Is this bullshit?


it sounds like the two 'witnesses' were the ones that reported this student in. in which, the school's policy may leave them little choice in their course of action. remember, the (Accused) 'faces possible expulsion'. meaning Expulsion is just one of the possible punishments.

without knowing more information. I say... "Moar Info Pweese."
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Postby Wanderjar » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:53 pm

Tokos wrote:I've heard this sort of thing is quite common in American schools (the overreaction), if true, mightn't that be behind this?


You're quite wrong. Most schools don't do anything, infact, my step mother is an elementary school teacher in a title 1 school (a lower socio-economic class school). She says 75% of her job is keeping the kids from killing each other.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:54 pm

I almost got expulsion for wearing a trench coat after the columbine thing.

I was pissed i was literally just 4 days from finishing my last finals.
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Postby Tokos » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:56 pm

Wanderjar wrote:
Tokos wrote:I've heard this sort of thing is quite common in American schools (the overreaction), if true, mightn't that be behind this?


You're quite wrong. Most schools don't do anything, infact, my step mother is an elementary school teacher in a title 1 school (a lower socio-economic class school). She says 75% of her job is keeping the kids from killing each other.
Okay, but the two aren't mutually exclusive. Like when the police don't respond to arson calls, but arrest a student for calling the policeman's horse gay (these two actually happened here). I think it's a problem with overregulation, when it's easy to jump down someone's throat for a minor infraction but impossible to sensibly deal with a real problem.
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Postby San Juanico » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:57 pm

Wanderjar wrote:Yeah, and if he actually killed the students you all would be freaking out about how they should've taken action earlier :roll:

I totally agree.
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Postby Pevisopolis » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:01 pm

Meldaria wrote:A 13 year old was accused of threatening to kill two students at a middle school. They filed their witness reports and the young boy faces possible expulsion. According to the 13 year old being accused he was only making a joke. He said it was in this context. "Hey man move the desk over there." Witness 1. "Man I will keeel you.." The second incident is seperate from the first and he claims he barely remembers it and is sure he was joking. He said he was only quoting a movie and meant no threat and that he was just fooling around and meant no harm whatsoever. The school seems to be taking this very seriously. Is this bullshit?


School Systems tend to overreact. Are you expressing surprise?
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Postby Brogavia » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:02 pm

Wanderjar wrote:
Tokos wrote:I've heard this sort of thing is quite common in American schools (the overreaction), if true, mightn't that be behind this?


You're quite wrong. Most schools don't do anything, infact, my step mother is an elementary school teacher in a title 1 school (a lower socio-economic class school). She says 75% of her job is keeping the kids from killing each other.


Sounds like my school.
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Postby Soratsin » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:03 pm

Pevisopolis wrote:
Meldaria wrote:A 13 year old was accused of threatening to kill two students at a middle school. They filed their witness reports and the young boy faces possible expulsion. According to the 13 year old being accused he was only making a joke. He said it was in this context. "Hey man move the desk over there." Witness 1. "Man I will keeel you.." The second incident is seperate from the first and he claims he barely remembers it and is sure he was joking. He said he was only quoting a movie and meant no threat and that he was just fooling around and meant no harm whatsoever. The school seems to be taking this very seriously. Is this bullshit?


School Systems tend to overreact. Are you expressing surprise?


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Postby JuNii » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:04 pm

Still awaiting that source...
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:07 pm

Well if it really was in that context (which I highly doubt), then yes, it was overreaction. But knowing thirteen year olds, this is some cheap excuse. I'm sure the kid really did make a credible death threat.
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Postby Brogavia » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:09 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:Well if it really was in that context (which I highly doubt), then yes, it was overreaction. But knowing thirteen year olds, this is some cheap excuse. I'm sure the kid really did make a credible death threat.


I doubt it was credible.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:11 pm

Brogavia wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:Well if it really was in that context (which I highly doubt), then yes, it was overreaction. But knowing thirteen year olds, this is some cheap excuse. I'm sure the kid really did make a credible death threat.


I doubt it was credible.

In my experience, young teenagers can go two ways with these things. Either it's a complete effing joke that you'd have to be stupid to take seriously, or the person would act violently.
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Postby JuNii » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:32 pm

Brogavia wrote:
Buffett and Colbert wrote:Well if it really was in that context (which I highly doubt), then yes, it was overreaction. But knowing thirteen year olds, this is some cheap excuse. I'm sure the kid really did make a credible death threat.


I doubt it was credible.


either way, if it was reported by the students, then the school has to act on it. if it was witnessed by the teachers, then it's really up to them to decide whether or not it's credible.
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Postby CornixPes II » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:35 pm

I swear, I read this as 'faces possible execution'. Whatever, if he didn't want to be expelled he shouldn't be throwing threats around. I have been on the receiving end of such remarks when I was a school and it is never a joke. You can't be too careful these days anyway, a lot of kids are nutjobs. Get rid of him.

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Postby Barzan » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:07 pm

Soratsin wrote:
Pevisopolis wrote:
Meldaria wrote:A 13 year old was accused of threatening to kill two students at a middle school. They filed their witness reports and the young boy faces possible expulsion. According to the 13 year old being accused he was only making a joke. He said it was in this context. "Hey man move the desk over there." Witness 1. "Man I will keeel you.." The second incident is seperate from the first and he claims he barely remembers it and is sure he was joking. He said he was only quoting a movie and meant no threat and that he was just fooling around and meant no harm whatsoever. The school seems to be taking this very seriously. Is this bullshit?


School Systems tend to overreact. Are you expressing surprise?


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Americans in general tend to over-react. The culture is based on paranoia and mutual mistrust. Everything is based on worst-possible scenarios and zero-sum games.
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Postby A Rightist Puppet » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:13 pm

Barzan wrote:
Soratsin wrote:
Pevisopolis wrote:
Meldaria wrote:A 13 year old was accused of threatening to kill two students at a middle school. They filed their witness reports and the young boy faces possible expulsion. According to the 13 year old being accused he was only making a joke. He said it was in this context. "Hey man move the desk over there." Witness 1. "Man I will keeel you.." The second incident is seperate from the first and he claims he barely remembers it and is sure he was joking. He said he was only quoting a movie and meant no threat and that he was just fooling around and meant no harm whatsoever. The school seems to be taking this very seriously. Is this bullshit?


School Systems tend to overreact. Are you expressing surprise?


ZERO TOLERANCE!

Americans in general tend to over-react. The culture is based on paranoia and mutual mistrust. Everything is based on worst-possible scenarios and zero-sum games.


On the down side we're always competing with the proverbial 'Jones,' yet on the upside we get all the Nobel Peace Prizes. You win some and you lose some.

As for the OP, this is one of the cases in which common sense should trump law.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:14 pm

Barzan wrote:
Soratsin wrote:
Pevisopolis wrote:
Meldaria wrote:A 13 year old was accused of threatening to kill two students at a middle school. They filed their witness reports and the young boy faces possible expulsion. According to the 13 year old being accused he was only making a joke. He said it was in this context. "Hey man move the desk over there." Witness 1. "Man I will keeel you.." The second incident is seperate from the first and he claims he barely remembers it and is sure he was joking. He said he was only quoting a movie and meant no threat and that he was just fooling around and meant no harm whatsoever. The school seems to be taking this very seriously. Is this bullshit?


School Systems tend to overreact. Are you expressing surprise?


ZERO TOLERANCE!

Americans in general tend to over-react. The culture is based on paranoia and mutual mistrust. Everything is based on worst-possible scenarios and zero-sum games.


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I'm not sure what you mean by zero-sum games, thats pretty contradictory to our favorite economic system, no?
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Postby Barzan » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:17 pm

A Rightist Puppet wrote:
Barzan wrote:
Soratsin wrote:
Pevisopolis wrote:
Meldaria wrote:A 13 year old was accused of threatening to kill two students at a middle school. They filed their witness reports and the young boy faces possible expulsion. According to the 13 year old being accused he was only making a joke. He said it was in this context. "Hey man move the desk over there." Witness 1. "Man I will keeel you.." The second incident is seperate from the first and he claims he barely remembers it and is sure he was joking. He said he was only quoting a movie and meant no threat and that he was just fooling around and meant no harm whatsoever. The school seems to be taking this very seriously. Is this bullshit?


School Systems tend to overreact. Are you expressing surprise?


ZERO TOLERANCE!

Americans in general tend to over-react. The culture is based on paranoia and mutual mistrust. Everything is based on worst-possible scenarios and zero-sum games.


On the down side we're always competiting with the proverbial 'Jones,' yet on the upside we get all the Nobel Peace Prizes. You win some and you lose some.

Well now the Jones's are bankrupt, they have no assets, no healthcare, no job, and their children go to mediocre sclerotic schools which are really nothing more than detention facilities for hoods. I guess it should be easier to keep up now, eh? But then again, instead of blaming themselves and trying to so something to change everything, they sit and whine and blame others for things beyond their control.
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Postby JuNii » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:29 pm

anyone got a link to the OP's story?

still can't find anything...

starting to think the story is made up to garner responses.
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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:23 pm

Wanderjar wrote:Yeah, and if he actually killed the students you all would be freaking out about how they should've taken action earlier :roll:


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