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by Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:36 pm

by Fartsniffage » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:37 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:I'm currently content with the Feds.

by Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:37 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Only because they have a gun to your head.


by Maurepas » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:38 pm
Milks Empire wrote:Maurepas wrote:Every President has raped the Constitution since AndrewJohnsonJackson, its a fact of life...
Fixed. Remember Worcester v. Georgia?Maurepas wrote:Thats not what the Healthcare bill does in the slightest, I dont like it much these days, as there were too many concessions to the Republicans and Corporate Interests, however, to say that its going to "essentially kill" anything is ludicrous, and its still better than the current system...
I'd argue the current people in charge of the insurance companies are the death panels.Maurepas wrote:and the Parties have been in the process of raping the system since before the Constitution was finalized, again, its a fact of life in a Democracy...
In other news, water is wet.


by Milks Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:38 pm

by Rhodmhire » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:39 pm
Fartsniffage wrote:Rhodmhire wrote:What does anyone mean by "tyranny?"
Sure it's technically defined, but it gets thrown around so much, it's almost the equivilent of hot or big or bad or any of those vague, non-universally accepted terms.
You mean "hot" that can be used to describe both warmth or attractiveness?
Or "bad" that can mean both the opposite of good and good?

by Goath » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:39 pm

by Milks Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:40 pm
Goath wrote:
Meh. I'm alright with government. Sometimes awful policies get put in place (warrantless wiretapping, for instance) but that doesn't make me want to overthrow the whole thing. That seems like overkill.
i like the government.

by Fartsniffage » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:40 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:[Or maybe I'm one of them, and I have a gun to everyone else's head?

by Alannika » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:41 pm
SF Penguins wrote:The New Ameican Revolution

by Conserative Morality » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:43 pm


by Sdaeriji » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:44 pm
Rhodmhire wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:Rhodmhire wrote:What does anyone mean by "tyranny?"
Sure it's technically defined, but it gets thrown around so much, it's almost the equivilent of hot or big or bad or any of those vague, non-universally accepted terms.
You mean "hot" that can be used to describe both warmth or attractiveness?
Or "bad" that can mean both the opposite of good and good?
No, more like a guy who's lived in Northern Canada for fifty years might think something is hot, while a guy who's lived sixty years in Africa might not think it's as hot, but rather lukewarm.
Or like how some people see abortion as "bad" while others see it as "rational" or in some cases "good."
Something like that, I fucking suck at analogies and examples, forgive me--you comprehend the main point right?

by Ashmoria » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:45 pm
SF Penguins wrote:One I hated bush and i realize what the hell he did to the consituiont. Two I hate Obama because he is no better and is proposing with his health care bill to essentially Kill your grandmother. and Three, I Think the partys have ruined America.

by Farnhamia » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:45 pm

by CommunistSovietAmerica » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:46 pm

by Alannika » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:46 pm

by Maurepas » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:48 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Maurepas wrote:Idk about tyranny, Im beyond tired of the corruption, but, Ive yet to see the less corrupt system, personally...
I honestly don't think the US government is all that corrupt. There is corruption, certainly, and dubious ways of doing things but if you want a corrupt government where nothing happens without money changing hands, I refer you to Africa or the Middle East.


by Farnhamia » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:49 pm
Maurepas wrote:Farnhamia wrote:Maurepas wrote:Idk about tyranny, Im beyond tired of the corruption, but, Ive yet to see the less corrupt system, personally...
I honestly don't think the US government is all that corrupt. There is corruption, certainly, and dubious ways of doing things but if you want a corrupt government where nothing happens without money changing hands, I refer you to Africa or the Middle East.
Well thats what Im saying, its corrupt, but not nearly to the point of some of its competitors...
Basically, I dislike lobbyists,

by Fartsniffage » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:49 pm
Ashmoria wrote:my grandmother is already dead so ....

by Goath » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:50 pm
Maurepas wrote:Farnhamia wrote:Maurepas wrote:Idk about tyranny, Im beyond tired of the corruption, but, Ive yet to see the less corrupt system, personally...
I honestly don't think the US government is all that corrupt. There is corruption, certainly, and dubious ways of doing things but if you want a corrupt government where nothing happens without money changing hands, I refer you to Africa or the Middle East.
Well thats what Im saying, its corrupt, but not nearly to the point of some of its competitors...
Basically, I dislike lobbyists,
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