The New Ameican Revolution

by **SF Penguins** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:20 pm

What do you think about the federal goverment and if you are tired of the tyranny like i am, then Post IT

by **Farnhamia** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:22 pm

SF Penguins wrote:What do you think about the federal goverment and if you are tired of the tyranny like i am, then Post IT

I think the government is fine. Like any large bureaucracy, it has its inefficiencies, but by and large I think it does a good job running the country.

by **Traceynia** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:22 pm

I am satisfied with the federal government at this point in time.

by **Sdaeriji** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:23 pm

I'm sure this will be locked, but:

I find it highly suspect that people like you were completely silent for 8 years of the Bush Administration running roughshod over the Constitution, taking more and broader tyrannical powers for the executive branch than any administration since FDR, all in the name of "fighting terrorism", but now that a Democrat wants to give people health insurance, it's suddenly time for armed revolution. Your hypocrisy sickens me.

by **The_pantless_hero** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:24 pm

SF Penguins wrote:What do you think about the federal goverment and if you are tired of the tyranny like i am, then Post IT

I demand confirmation that I am not the only person seeing irony here.

by **Rhodmhire** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:25 pm

The_pantless_hero wrote:
SF Penguins wrote:What do you think about the federal goverment and if you are tired of the tyranny like i am, then Post IT

I demand confirmation that I am not the only person seeing irony here.

No, you are.

Just like every other time.

by **South Lorenya** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:25 pm

What about those of us tired of having the church sticking their noses where they don't belong?

by **Farnhamia** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:26 pm

The_pantless_hero wrote:
SF Penguins wrote:What do you think about the federal goverment and if you are tired of the tyranny like i am, then Post IT

I demand confirmation that I am not the only person seeing irony here.

Irony ... I guess. I do see a little trollette. Did you notice he spelled "American" wrong?

"Skallvia" · by **Maurepas** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:26 pm

Idk about tyranny, Im beyond tired of the corruption, but, Ive yet to see the less corrupt system, personally...

by **Bormanico** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:27 pm

What does this guy mean Tyranny?

by **SF Penguins** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:27 pm

One I hated bush and i realize what the hell he did to the consituiont. Two I hate Obama because he is no better and is proposing with his health care bill to essentially Kill your grandmother. and Three, I Think the partys have ruined America.

by **Rhodmhire** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:28 pm

Maurepas wrote:Idk about tyranny, Im beyond tired of the corruption, but, Ive yet to see the less corrupt system, personally...

My system, the one with so much corruption that there is none that's recognizable.

The corrupt win, those against corruption win, I win.

We all win.

by **The_pantless_hero** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:28 pm

SF Penguins wrote:One I hated bush and i realize what the hell he did to the consituiont. Two I hate Obama because he is no better and is proposing with his health care bill to essentially Kill your grandmother. and Three, I Think the partys have ruined America.

Stop doing meth.

by **Farnhamia** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:28 pm

Maurepas wrote:Idk about tyranny, Im beyond tired of the corruption, but, Ive yet to see the less corrupt system, personally...

I honestly don't think the US government is all that corrupt. There is corruption, certainly, and dubious ways of doing things but if you want a corrupt government where nothing happens without money changing hands, I refer you to Africa or the Middle East.

by **Rhodmhire** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:29 pm

Bormanico wrote:What does this guy mean Tyranny?

What does anyone mean by "tyranny?"

Sure it's technically defined, but it gets thrown around so much, it's almost the equivilent of hot or big or bad or any of those vague, non-universally accepted terms.

by **Bormanico** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:30 pm

SF Penguins wrote:One I hated bush and i realize what the hell he did to the consituiont. Two I hate Obama because he is no better and is proposing with his health care bill to essentially Kill your grandmother. and Three, I Think the partys have ruined America.

He also hates the white culture, Stalin is his cousin twice removed and he doesn't like beer. Can't trust a man that doesnt like beer.

by **CornixPes II** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:30 pm

You have to remember that America is massive and the country will inevitably need a fairly sprawling government to properly govern it. I don't really have a problem with the federal government because the alternatives are not viable.

"Skallvia" · by **Maurepas** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:30 pm

SF Penguins wrote:One I hated bush and i realize what the hell he did to the consituiont. Two I hate Obama because he is no better and is proposing with his health care bill to essentially Kill your grandmother. and Three, I Think the partys have ruined America.

Every President has raped the Constitution since Andrew Johnson, its a fact of life...

Thats not what the Healthcare bill does in the slightest, I dont like it much these days, as there were too many concessions to the Republicans and Corporate Interests, however, to say that its going to "essentially kill" anything is ludicrous, and its still better than the current system...

and the Parties have been in the process of raping the system since before the Constitution was finalized, again, its a fact of life in a Democracy...

by **Tekania** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:30 pm

SF Penguins wrote:One I hated bush and i realize what the hell he did to the consituiont. Two I hate Obama because he is no better and is proposing with his health care bill to essentially Kill your grandmother. and Three, I Think the partys have ruined America.

Great, I believe we have the illegitimate love-child of Sarah Palin and her pet rock...

by **Goath** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:31 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:I find it highly suspect that people like you were completely silent for 8 years of the Bush Administration running roughshod over the Constitution, taking more and broader tyrannical powers for the executive branch than any administration since FDR, all in the name of "fighting terrorism", but now that a Democrat wants to give people health insurance, it's suddenly time for armed revolution. Your hypocrisy sickens me.

I'll agree with that.

You don't have to agree with the Democrats in the White House, House, or Senate, but to think they are tyrants is a little outside reality.

And, after all, the majority of American elected these "tyrants." If they really are tyrant they'll get booted out of office in 2010 and 2012. Not that I think they should be, of course.

by **Rhodmhire** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:31 pm

SF Penguins wrote:One I hated bush and i realize what the hell he did to the consituiont.

No idea what the fuck the "consituiont" is, but I bet whatever it is--he managed to screw that up as well.

Two I hate Obama because he is no better and is proposing with his health care bill to essentially Kill your grandmother.

I'm not a big fan of ~~Hitler II~~ ~~the Antichrist~~ ~~your mom~~ Obama either, but he's not trying to kill my grandmother.

Maybe yours, but certainly not mine.

and Three, I Think the partys have ruined America.

When haven't they?

Not often.

by **Sdaeriji** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:31 pm

SF Penguins wrote:One I hated bush and i realize what the hell he did to the consituiont. Two I hate Obama because he is no better and is proposing with his health care bill to essentially Kill your grandmother. and Three, I Think the partys have ruined America.

1. Yes, but were you advocating armed rebellion when he was in office?

2. a. The idea that Obama wants to kill your grandmother has long been debunked as a GOP lie. It would do your position well not to lie.
b. How is proposing universal health care no better than torturing people?

3. Yes, but again, were you advocating armed rebellion when the Republicans were in power? I find it highly suspect that suddenly NOW it's time to overthrow the government, NOW that it's a Democrat in office.

by **Rhodmhire** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:32 pm

Tekania wrote:
SF Penguins wrote:One I hated bush and i realize what the hell he did to the consituiont. Two I hate Obama because he is no better and is proposing with his health care bill to essentially Kill your grandmother. and Three, I Think the partys have ruined America.

Great, I believe we have the illegitimate love-child of Sarah Palin and her pet rock...

I think the pet rock got some more genetics involved...

by **Milks Empire** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:35 pm

Maurepas wrote:Every President has raped the Constitution since Andrew ~~Johnson~~Jackson, its a fact of life...

Fixed. Remember Worcester v. Georgia?

Maurepas wrote:Thats not what the Healthcare bill does in the slightest, I dont like it much these days, as there were too many concessions to the Republicans and Corporate Interests, however, to say that its going to "essentially kill" anything is ludicrous, and its still better than the current system...

I'd argue the current people in charge of the insurance companies are the death panels.

Maurepas wrote:and the Parties have been in the process of raping the system since before the Constitution was finalized, again, its a fact of life in a Democracy...

In other news, water is wet. :hug:

by **Fartsniffage** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:36 pm

Rhodmhire wrote:What does anyone mean by "tyranny?"

Sure it's technically defined, but it gets thrown around so much, it's almost the equivilent of hot or big or bad or any of those vague, non-universally accepted terms.

You mean "hot" that can be used to describe both warmth or attractiveness?

Or "bad" that can mean both the opposite of good and good?

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