How to respond to racism?

[SuperHappySmileyWorld]

N word is no longer racist. If gangster rappers who are black use it then it is now a term of endearment like 'guy' or 'fellow' or 'homie.'

It's not racist when it's used by black people.

Seriously. You're only allowed to reclaim slurs if they were used against you in the first place.

Honestly? Why is that even ok?

What, for decades black people were called Niggers, and they fought long, and they fought hard for the right to be seen as more than a Nigger, and then after that happens (almost), they decide to call eachother Nigger anyway?

Do you see Mexicans call eachother Spics or Wetbacks? Or Asians call eachother Chink? or Women calling eachother Cunts?

Those terms were only ever meant to insult, and should only ever be used to insult, and any alternitive is just stupid, hypocritical, and insulting in of itself

[Xsyne]

It's not racist when it's used by black people.

Seriously. You're only allowed to reclaim slurs if they were used against you in the first place.

Honestly? Why is that even ok?

What, for decades black people were called Niggers, and they fought long, and they fought hard for the right to be seen as more than a Nigger, and then after that happens (almost), they decide to call eachother Nigger anyway?

"Nigga", actually. "Nigger" is different. No, you still can't say "nigga".

Do you see Mexicans call eachother Spics or Wetbacks?

Yes.

Or Asians call eachother Chink?

Yes.

or Women calling eachother Cunts?

Yes, although it is far rarer than "bitch".

Those terms were only ever meant to insult, and should only ever be used to insult, and any alternitive is just stupid, hypocritical, and insulting in of itself

Insult, while technically accurate, doesn't quite have the right connotations. They are words only ever meant to slur. And words only ever meant to slur absolutely should not only ever be used to slur, because you should not slur people in the first place.

[Ostroeuropa]

With a wry smirk and a "Oh you're one of THOSE people." followed by mockery.

As an example of the type of mockery that can easily piss off racists, you can sing this at them in the same manner as this man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vNzz2VMWac
It immediately parodies itself. The N word doesn't say much about the person it's levied at to be honest. On the face of it, it's just a descriptor of appearance. The important part is the venom with which they inject the word in my opinion, it'd be just as offensive for them to say Black in the same tone and context with the same connotations.

[The Steel Magnolia]

It's not racist when it's used by black people.

Seriously. You're only allowed to reclaim slurs if they were used against you in the first place.

Honestly? Why is that even ok?

What, for decades black people were called Niggers, and they fought long, and they fought hard for the right to be seen as more than a Nigger, and then after that happens (almost), they decide to call eachother Nigger anyway?

Do you see Mexicans call eachother Spics or Wetbacks? Or Asians call eachother Chink? or Women calling eachother Cunts?

Those terms were only ever meant to insult, and should only ever be used to insult, and any alternitive is just stupid, hypocritical, and insulting in of itself

Because they can reclaim it?

Queer was a slur a while ago, and still is. Yet the LGBT community is often called the queer community both internally and externally.

[Ostroeuropa]

Honestly? Why is that even ok?

What, for decades black people were called Niggers, and they fought long, and they fought hard for the right to be seen as more than a Nigger, and then after that happens (almost), they decide to call eachother Nigger anyway?

Do you see Mexicans call eachother Spics or Wetbacks? Or Asians call eachother Chink? or Women calling eachother Cunts?

Those terms were only ever meant to insult, and should only ever be used to insult, and any alternitive is just stupid, hypocritical, and insulting in of itself

Because they can reclaim it?

Queer was a slur a while ago, and still is. Yet the LGBT community is often called the queer community both internally and externally.

Really?
It seems quaint. I've only ever heard old, posh people say queer, or someone parodying them. Thats what happens to these words inevitably, they become an insult to the people who use them seriously. Also, who says only you can reclaim words used against you.
I refer to my friend as "Queer" in a stuffy posh voice while sipping gin if the subject comes up, purely because it makes fun of ME and posh homophobes, not him. When used as a parody of the people who take it seriously, it's something everyone can do imo.
By doing this kind of thing, we can turn THEM into a stereotype, which they inevitably live up to and make themselves look foolish and cliche.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Because they can reclaim it?

Queer was a slur a while ago, and still is. Yet the LGBT community is often called the queer community both internally and externally.

Really?
It seems quaint. I've only ever heard old, posh people say queer, or someone parodying them. Thats what happens to these words inevitably, they become an insult to the people who use them seriously. Also, who says only you can reclaim words used against you.
I refer to my friend as "Queer" in a stuffy posh voice while sipping gin if the subject comes up, purely because it makes fun of ME and posh homophobes, not him. When used as a parody of the people who take it seriously, it's something everyone can do imo.
By doing this kind of thing, we can turn THEM into a stereotype, which they inevitably live up to and make themselves look foolish and cliche.

The "Mel Brooks" philosophy.

[Freiheit Reich]

N word is no longer racist. If gangster rappers who are black use it then it is now a term of endearment like 'guy' or 'fellow' or 'homie.'

Hahaha Gangster rappers

This isn't 1996.

Oh, I am sorry. I will use ebonics which you may prefer:

gangsta' rap.

[Ostroeuropa]

Really?
It seems quaint. I've only ever heard old, posh people say queer, or someone parodying them. Thats what happens to these words inevitably, they become an insult to the people who use them seriously. Also, who says only you can reclaim words used against you.
I refer to my friend as "Queer" in a stuffy posh voice while sipping gin if the subject comes up, purely because it makes fun of ME and posh homophobes, not him. When used as a parody of the people who take it seriously, it's something everyone can do imo.
By doing this kind of thing, we can turn THEM into a stereotype, which they inevitably live up to and make themselves look foolish and cliche.

The "Mel Brooks" philosophy.

Plenty of people use it.

[Xsyne]

Hahaha Gangster rappers

This isn't 1996.

Oh, I am sorry. I will use ebonics which you may prefer:

gangsta' rap.

Ebonics? Jesus you really do think it's 1996.

[The Emerald Dawn]

The "Mel Brooks" philosophy.

Plenty of people use it.

They do, but none so successfully as a Jewish Movie Producer constantly making biting references to bumbling fascists in his movies.

[Sulamalik]

Hahaha Gangster rappers

This isn't 1996.

Oh, I am sorry. I will use ebonics which you may prefer:

gangsta' rap.

I'll go get my zoot suit and pimp cane.

Can't forget to conk my hair too!

[Freiheit Reich]

Oh, I am sorry. I will use ebonics which you may prefer:

gangsta' rap.

Ebonics? Jesus you really do think it's 1996.

Oh, is there a politically correct term for gangster rap these days?

"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."

Is that a nicer and more modern term to use?

[Sulamalik]

Ebonics? Jesus you really do think it's 1996.

Oh, is there a politically correct term for gangster rap these days?

"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."

Is that a nicer and more modern term to use?

Gangster rap doesn't exist any more.

It's dead. Like Jazz.

[Xsyne]

Ebonics? Jesus you really do think it's 1996.

Oh, is there a politically correct term for gangster rap these days?

"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."

Is that a nicer and more modern term to use?

I'm beginning to feel sorry for you now, so I'll let you in on a little secret. Gangster rap has been dead for years.

[SuperHappySmileyWorld]

Insult, while technically accurate, doesn't quite have the right connotations. They are words only ever meant to slur. And words only ever meant to slur absolutely should not only ever be used to slur, because you should not slur people in the first place.

This is kind of my point, I mean I do believe in the George Carlin philosphy of there being no bad words, only bad thoughts or bad intentions, my problem is when they dog piie on someone who does a softer version of what they were just doing, as seen in most every comedy ever made

the 'You saying that because I am black?' thing

If you have a group of people being all thugish and calling eachother Nigga or Monkey or what have you, then flip shit because someone calls you 'Bro', something is wrong

[Freiheit Reich]

Oh, is there a politically correct term for gangster rap these days?

"Economically disadvantaged and angry urban youth music."

Is that a nicer and more modern term to use?

I'm beginning to feel sorry for you now, so I'll let you in on a little secret. Gangster rap has been dead for years.

He would disagree with you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMX_(rapper)

So would he:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent

[Individual]

Why? Love is stronger than hate.

Disagree. If love was stronger than Iraqi Christians would not have been forced to leave Iraq. Christianity would have been the religion in Indonesia, the Middle East, and Malaysia.

Islam is proof that hate is stronger than love. First, you defeat hate by using an iron fist and then you gradually show kindness and love as the defeated starts to become civilized and good.

Somehow, christianity just is the most popular religion of the world for some reason. I believe you though, hate comes before love especially when dealing with strangers, if you're plain ignorant and you have dealt with strangers before and got some really bad experiences from meeting them. That thing breeds generalizations, which in turn breeds xenophobia.

Following your logic and combining the facts into it we get that christianity is one of the most hateful religions of the world.

[Individual]

N word is no longer racist. If gangster rappers who are black use it then it is now a term of endearment like 'guy' or 'fellow' or 'homie.'

It's not racist when it's used by black people.

Seriously. You're only allowed to reclaim slurs if they were used against you in the first place.

It's not racist when it's not used in a racist way.

[Zottistan]

Hello NS. I'm sick and tired of people calling me the N word and being absolute jerks. And I wanted to know how you folks respond to racism? And how should i respond to a racist? Because NSers are probably the most clever group of people ive ever seen, and priceless intelligent (and sometimes hilarious) response after another has me asking you how can i shut the mouth of a racist with an awesome NSer-type response? Any tips?

If the person is remotely intelligent, debate it with them and see if you can explain their stupidity to them.
If not, be a dick.

[Individual]

Equality doesn't mean everyone is treated the same

The F?

[Sulamalik]

I'm beginning to feel sorry for you now, so I'll let you in on a little secret. Gangster rap has been dead for years.

He would disagree with you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMX_(rapper)

So would he:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent

I have a hard time believing you listen to either of those two artist.

Especially because neither of them have produced anything close to gangster since since...

1996(ish)

DMX, really? DMX is a deadbird on the sidewalk.

[The Emerald Dawn]

Equality doesn't mean everyone is treated the same

The F?

You could be my equal, under the law, but I will be treated better than you because I have done more than you have.

I have proven myself, time and again, to put others interests before my own. This earns me leniency that you would not have.

It all depends on the situations. The reverse could be equally true, depending.

[Freiheit Reich]

He would disagree with you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMX_(rapper)

So would he:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent

I have a hard time believing you listen to either of those two artist.

Especially because neither of them have produced anything close to gangster since since...

1996(ish)

DMX, really? DMX is a deadbird on the sidewalk.

http://rapgenius.com/50-cent-what-up-gangsta-lyrics

2003:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_Rich_o ... in'_(album)

[Agymnum]

Why? Love is stronger than hate.

Disagree. If love was stronger than Iraqi Christians would not have been forced to leave Iraq. Christianity would have been the religion in Indonesia, the Middle East, and Malaysia.

Islam is proof that hate is stronger than love. First, you defeat hate by using an iron fist and then you gradually show kindness and love as the defeated starts to become civilized and good.

Christianity is pretty fucking hateful when you take into account the Crusades, WBC, and the anti-gay churches.

So actually, your assumption is correct. Christianity, the worlds most hateful and bigoted religion, is also its most populous religion.

[Seleucas]

Try to avoid them. If they say something like this in earshot, I let them know I don't approve ("You can't say that about a whole group of people," etc.) I am caucasian, so I really haven't faced discrimination, but I would and have voiced my disapproval if someone behaves in that sort of way while I'm present.