Republican Health Plan Actually Is "Don't Get Sick"

[Free Soviets]

haha, oh wow.
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archi ... uction.php

The Congressional Budget Office has released its initial estimate of the House GOP’s health care alternative, centered on the near-total deregulation of the health insurance industry.

The good news is that the House GOP bill does reduce the deficit. CBO says adopting their plan would reduce the deficit by $68 billion over ten years relative to current law. The number for the Democratic bill, however, is $104 billion. So in exchange for that lesser deficit reduction, the Republicans must cover more people right? Well, of course not. Instead, under the Boehner Plan the number of people without health insurance will stay steady at 17 percent. The Democratic plan will see that sliced to just four percent.

The CBO also says that for most people the GOP plan won’t lower premiums: “In the large group market, which represents nearly 80 percent of total private premiums, the amendment would lower average insurance premiums in 2016 by zero to 3 percent compared with amounts under current law.” And insofar as their plan does reduce premiums, it’s by making your coverage worse:

...Provisions in the amendment that would reduce insurance premiums by affecting the amount of coverage purchased include the State Innovations program, which would encourage states to reduce the number and extent of benefit mandates that they impose, and provisions that would allow individuals or affiliated groups to purchase insurance policies in other states that have less stringent mandates.

so the best they could come up with, from a completely blank slate position of pure policy imagination is not only worse than the (utterly hobbled) dem plan (that has already been put through the congressional sausage making process), but it really does achieve its only individual cost savings by urging people to not get sick, and if they do, to die quickly.

um, guys, grayson was making fun of you, not offering constructive advice.

[Farnhamia]

Kind of like their alternate budget earlier in the year which had no numbers in it.

[Free Soviets]

Kind of like their alternate budget earlier in the year which had no numbers in it.

this one at least had actual policy ideas that were detailed enough for the cbo to score. but i'm not sure if that's an improvement for them, given that it made the kind of shitty dem plan look fan-fucking-tastic by comparison.

[Fartsniffage]

Kind of like their alternate budget earlier in the year which had no numbers in it.

Really? What was it, spend less scrawled on a napkin in red crayon?

[Free Soviets]

Kind of like their alternate budget earlier in the year which had no numbers in it.

Really? What was it, spend less scrawled on a napkin in red crayon?

yep, more or less. it was awesome. full of random collections of words in circles linked to other circles, sometimes with big barrier lines between them that said "republican road to recovery!!!"

i'm not kidding.



it spawned an entire genre of alternative mock-ups, like this from 538's nate silver:

[Natapoc]

They stole it from me. I can't get sick till 2013 when the bill comes into effect I'm doing alright so far.

[Fartsniffage]

Kind of like their alternate budget earlier in the year which had no numbers in it.

Really? What was it, spend less scrawled on a napkin in red crayon?

yep, more or less. it was awesome. full of random collections of words in circles linked to other circles, sometimes with big barrier lines between them that said "republican road to recovery!!!"

i'm not kidding.
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it spawned an entire genre of alternative mock-ups, like this from 538's nate silver:
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Brilliant.

To be fair, I've produced pieces of work like that. Usually at meetings the morning after we all took full advantage of expenses at the bar on corporate events.

[The Norse Hordes]

Man, Rep. Alan Grayson basically wrote this bill for them.

[Free Soviets]

Man, Rep. Alan Grayson basically wrote this bill for them.

he should file an ethics complaint for plagiarism

[Muravyets]

Kind of like their alternate budget earlier in the year which had no numbers in it.

Really? What was it, spend less scrawled on a napkin in red crayon?

No, it was Michelle Bachman's lipstick.

Or maybe she scrawls over her lips with crayon. I wouldn't know. I try not to look at her real close.

[Sdaeriji]

Kind of like their alternate budget earlier in the year which had no numbers in it.

Really? What was it, spend less scrawled on a napkin in red crayon?

yep, more or less. it was awesome. full of random collections of words in circles linked to other circles, sometimes with big barrier lines between them that said "republican road to recovery!!!"

i'm not kidding.



it spawned an entire genre of alternative mock-ups, like this from 538's nate silver:

I am reminded of this.

http://olmecguide.ytmnd.com/

[Parthenon]

This just in, a blogger on "ThinkProgress" is now a viable news source...

[The_pantless_hero]

This just in, a blogger on "ThinkProgress" is now a viable news source...

...so your argument is Republicans don't have a fleshed out healthcare plan?

[Ashmoria]

Kind of like their alternate budget earlier in the year which had no numbers in it.

Really? What was it, spend less scrawled on a napkin in red crayon?

at the presidents last joint address to congress, the republicans were waving papers purporting to be their own (superior) health care plan.

the pages were blank.

[Muravyets]

Kind of like their alternate budget earlier in the year which had no numbers in it.

Really? What was it, spend less scrawled on a napkin in red crayon?

at the presidents last joint address to congress, the republicans were waving papers purporting to be their own (superior) health care plan.

the pages were blank.

Gods, I love politics in the age of tv. 80 years ago, they might have gotten away with that act.

[Free Soviets]

This just in, a blogger on "ThinkProgress" is now a viable news source...

it is your position that the CBO didn't release a report?

anything beyond that is all analysis, and yglesias (and any well-written/researched/supported blog {or NSG post!} in general) is good for that.

[Ajax Primo]

haha, oh wow.
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archi ... uction.php

The Congressional Budget Office has released its initial estimate of the House GOP’s health care alternative, centered on the near-total deregulation of the health insurance industry.

The good news is that the House GOP bill does reduce the deficit. CBO says adopting their plan would reduce the deficit by $68 billion over ten years relative to current law. The number for the Democratic bill, however, is $104 billion. So in exchange for that lesser deficit reduction, the Republicans must cover more people right? Well, of course not. Instead, under the Boehner Plan the number of people without health insurance will stay steady at 17 percent. The Democratic plan will see that sliced to just four percent.

The CBO also says that for most people the GOP plan won’t lower premiums: “In the large group market, which represents nearly 80 percent of total private premiums, the amendment would lower average insurance premiums in 2016 by zero to 3 percent compared with amounts under current law.” And insofar as their plan does reduce premiums, it’s by making your coverage worse:

...Provisions in the amendment that would reduce insurance premiums by affecting the amount of coverage purchased include the State Innovations program, which would encourage states to reduce the number and extent of benefit mandates that they impose, and provisions that would allow individuals or affiliated groups to purchase insurance policies in other states that have less stringent mandates.

so the best they could come up with, from a completely blank slate position of pure policy imagination is not only worse than the (utterly hobbled) dem plan (that has already been put through the congressional sausage making process), but it really does achieve its only individual cost savings by urging people to not get sick, and if they do, to die quickly.

um, guys, grayson was making fun of you, not offering constructive advice.

Get a better source, free soviets and maybe i will be able to read it without fucking throwing up on the Nancy Pelosi's fucking vagina.

[Sdaeriji]

haha, oh wow.
http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archi ... uction.php

The Congressional Budget Office has released its initial estimate of the House GOP’s health care alternative, centered on the near-total deregulation of the health insurance industry.

The good news is that the House GOP bill does reduce the deficit. CBO says adopting their plan would reduce the deficit by $68 billion over ten years relative to current law. The number for the Democratic bill, however, is $104 billion. So in exchange for that lesser deficit reduction, the Republicans must cover more people right? Well, of course not. Instead, under the Boehner Plan the number of people without health insurance will stay steady at 17 percent. The Democratic plan will see that sliced to just four percent.

The CBO also says that for most people the GOP plan won’t lower premiums: “In the large group market, which represents nearly 80 percent of total private premiums, the amendment would lower average insurance premiums in 2016 by zero to 3 percent compared with amounts under current law.” And insofar as their plan does reduce premiums, it’s by making your coverage worse:

...Provisions in the amendment that would reduce insurance premiums by affecting the amount of coverage purchased include the State Innovations program, which would encourage states to reduce the number and extent of benefit mandates that they impose, and provisions that would allow individuals or affiliated groups to purchase insurance policies in other states that have less stringent mandates.

so the best they could come up with, from a completely blank slate position of pure policy imagination is not only worse than the (utterly hobbled) dem plan (that has already been put through the congressional sausage making process), but it really does achieve its only individual cost savings by urging people to not get sick, and if they do, to die quickly.

um, guys, grayson was making fun of you, not offering constructive advice.

Get a better source, free soviets and maybe i will be able to read it without fucking throwing up on the Nancy Pelosi's fucking vagina.

Oh shit, it's the actual report, linked right in the article!

[Maurepas]

And, in other news, Water is wet,

[Buffett and Colbert]

Well it's a start. Before, the Republican health plan was shooting down whatever the democrats decided on.

[Free Soviets]

Get a better source, free soviets and maybe i will be able to read it without fucking throwing up on the Nancy Pelosi's fucking vagina.

Oh shit, it's the actual report, linked right in the article!

me fail critical reading? that unpossible!

[Soyut]

I thought McCain had a pretty good health plan. End company sponsored healthcare to promote competition, make health insurance tax deductible.

[Free Soviets]

I thought McCain had a pretty good health plan. End company sponsored healthcare to promote competition, make health insurance tax deductible.

the problem, of course, is that the individual health insurance market is a hellish post-apocalyptic nightmare, and it is quite difficult to see how it could be otherwise

[Brogavia]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Antitrust_Act

lol problem solved.

[Free Soviets]

so, opponents of the obamunist plot to kill grandma and steal your precious bodily fluids, what exactly do you have to say about this?