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Is white supremacy wrong

1.It wrong "explain"
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2. its not "explain why"
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3. Other "Please explain"
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Postby Starkiller101 » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:46 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Vettrera wrote:It's wrong...but completely legal.
Though I do feel a little apprehensive in saying so, because my race is probably one of the main targets of their aggression.

Switch to NASCAR, they'll love you.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:13 pm

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Wikkiwallana wrote:Switch to NASCAR, they'll love you.
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Postby NERVUN » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:11 pm

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Wikkiwallana wrote:Switch to NASCAR, they'll love you.
Redneck ass

Knock off the flaming.
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Postby Sedikal » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:14 pm

I see no issue with being proud of being white but if your the douchy "only white is right" guy then yeah it's wrong. Pride is completely different the prejudice.
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Postby Agymnum » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:16 pm

Sedikal wrote:I see no issue with being proud of being white but if your the douchy "only white is right" guy then yeah it's wrong. Pride is completely different the prejudice.


Unfortunately supremacy and pride are two different topics, and this thread is about the uglier of the two brothers, supremacy.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:24 pm

I'm proud of having hazel eyes and a hairy back. Clearly they mark me as superior. 8)
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Postby Sedikal » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:27 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Sedikal wrote:I see no issue with being proud of being white but if your the douchy "only white is right" guy then yeah it's wrong. Pride is completely different the prejudice.


Unfortunately supremacy and pride are two different topics, and this thread is about the uglier of the two brothers, supremacy.

Well then white person (hopefully Serbian is considered white) I must say I've never felt superior to someone due to race, I mean I have felt superior to a person but it was for completely different things then race. I've been bested by nonwhite people. In my Highschool wrestling career I could never beat this one African kid. And if you think about you have Africans that are just as smart and intellectual then anyone else. I mean nelson Mandela had better English grammar then most people I knew in high school and right now.
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Postby Dainer » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:03 am

Agymnum wrote:
Sedikal wrote:I see no issue with being proud of being white but if your the douchy "only white is right" guy then yeah it's wrong. Pride is completely different the prejudice.


Unfortunately supremacy and pride are two different topics, and this thread is about the uglier of the two brothers, supremacy.

Is this like the "heritage, not hate" thing?
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Postby Hilexia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:14 am

White Supremacy is still seen as Freedom of Speech. As long as no one is hurt from it.
It is an idea-based ideology, like feminism, anyway, who is going to prosecute someone on a thought-crime?
It might not be socially acceptable in most places to hold a white-supremacist ideal for society, but its your legal right, in democratic countries anyway.
As much as everyone dislikes it, at the end of the day, we have to protect people's right to freedom of speech. From weird-ass religions, political beliefs and societal beliefs, we have to protect them all, to protect freedom of speech.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:42 am

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm proud of having hazel eyes and a hairy back. Clearly they mark me as superior. 8)


The hazel eyed will fall before the obvious superiority and strength of the green-eyed. Your hairy back marks you as somewhat less degenerate than your fellow hazelians.

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Postby Starkiller101 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:48 am

There is no dominent race in the world so white supremacy is wrong but its still legal
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Postby Alimprad » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:18 am

Starkiller101 wrote:There is no dominent race in the world so white supremacy is wrong but its still legal

Thats what evolution is about, we'll just have to see who survives longest, and for some reason I've got a strange feeling the high-tech europeans will out live the starving africans.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:37 pm

Alimprad wrote:
Starkiller101 wrote:There is no dominent race in the world so white supremacy is wrong but its still legal

Thats what evolution is about, we'll just have to see who survives longest, and for some reason I've got a strange feeling the high-tech europeans will out live the starving africans.

Africa and Europe are both proper nouns, respect your ancestors please by capitalising the adjective forms of those two words. I've got a strange feeling your tech is made in China and/or designed by the Japanese allowing you to watch dark skinned people of African descent beat lighter skinned people of European descent in sports.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:36 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm proud of having hazel eyes and a hairy back. Clearly they mark me as superior. 8)


The hazel eyed will fall before the obvious superiority and strength of the green-eyed. Your hairy back marks you as somewhat less degenerate than your fellow hazelians.

My hairy back marks me as uncomfortably hot in the summer.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Tue Apr 09, 2013 3:38 pm

Freedom of speech is bullshit. If your opinion is one that has actively caused harm to millions for hundreds of years, and still does, you need to shut the fuck up.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:00 am

The Truth and Light wrote:Freedom of speech is bullshit. If your opinion is one that has actively caused harm to millions for hundreds of years, and still does, you need to shut the fuck up.


So you want to lock up people because they have a different opinion than you? The words did not cause harm, it was the actions.

A wise man once said "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:14 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Freedom of speech is bullshit. If your opinion is one that has actively caused harm to millions for hundreds of years, and still does, you need to shut the fuck up.


So you want to lock up people because they have a different opinion than you? The words did not cause harm, it was the actions.

A wise man once said "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."


Which is unfathomably stupid.

Words are actions, and can indeed cause harm. Incitement to violence, anyone?

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:17 am

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
So you want to lock up people because they have a different opinion than you? The words did not cause harm, it was the actions.

A wise man once said "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."


Which is unfathomably stupid.

Words are actions, and can indeed cause harm. Incitement to violence, anyone?


That's some thin ice though. If we start censoring people just because some idiot wants to get rowdy about what another said, we'd all be in jail.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:21 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Which is unfathomably stupid.

Words are actions, and can indeed cause harm. Incitement to violence, anyone?


That's some thin ice though. If we start censoring people just because some idiot wants to get rowdy about what another said, we'd all be in jail.


Certainly, which is why we generally determine it in high profile cases, which often involve multiple people.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:22 am

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
So you want to lock up people because they have a different opinion than you? The words did not cause harm, it was the actions.

A wise man once said "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."


Which is unfathomably stupid.

Words are actions, and can indeed cause harm. Incitement to violence, anyone?


Words don't kill people, stupid people kill people. Don't ban words, next you will want people thrown in jail for saying Obama is an idiot because you will say this is inciting overthrowing the govt.

Read '1984' to understand the dangers of a totalitarian society that it seems you want.

What is scary is you will/have probably voted before.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:23 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Which is unfathomably stupid.

Words are actions, and can indeed cause harm. Incitement to violence, anyone?


Words don't kill people, stupid people kill people. Don't ban words, next you will want people thrown in jail for saying Obama is an idiot because you will say this is inciting overthrowing the govt.

Read '1984' to understand the dangers of a totalitarian society that it seems you want.

What is scary is you will/have probably voted before.


I mean it's not like we have police or courts or anything.

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Postby Ovisterra » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:36 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Freedom of speech is bullshit. If your opinion is one that has actively caused harm to millions for hundreds of years, and still does, you need to shut the fuck up.


So you want to lock up people because they have a different opinion than you? The words did not cause harm, it was the actions.

A wise man once said "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."


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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:45 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:So you want to lock up people because they have a different opinion than you?

Strawman fallacy. Parrot back something from your ideology, mish-mash what I actually said, yadda yadda.

Basically, what I really want is a society where people are free to have open dialogues and to access any sort of information. I also want a society where everyone has an equal playing field to achieve their goals and to feel fulfilled. White supremacy only reifies the fact that white people (still) are treated as the superior race in Western societies; buying into it is directly harmful to everyone. You cannot just believe in an ideology without affecting others. Your beliefs always affect others, directly or indirectly, so yeah, sometimes believing in certain things is wrong - especially if your belief has caused and continues to cause the suffering and oppression of millions.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:47 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:Read '1984'

Oh my godddddddd.

You can't just cite a work of distopian fiction as proof of your argument. It doesn't strengthen your point; rather, it's only self-effacing and gullible.
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Postby Starkiller101 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:30 am

The Truth and Light wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:Read '1984'

Oh my godddddddd.

You can't just cite a work of distopian fiction as proof of your argument. It doesn't strengthen your point; rather, it's only self-effacing and gullible.
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