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Is white supremacy wrong

1.It wrong "explain"
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2. its not "explain why"
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:27 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
Indeed. It happened in the wake of the 1916 Rising in Dublin.

And you of all people, Comrade CTALNH, should know that history repeats itself.

So when the Nazi killed the Jews the Germans actually sympathized with them?

Yes?
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Postby Varijnland » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:30 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
Indeed. It happened in the wake of the 1916 Rising in Dublin.

And you of all people, Comrade CTALNH, should know that history repeats itself.

So when the Nazi killed the Jews the Germans actually sympathized with them?

Don't be so fucking stupid.

When in doubt, compare it to the holocaust *nods*

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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:30 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
Indeed. It happened in the wake of the 1916 Rising in Dublin.

And you of all people, Comrade CTALNH, should know that history repeats itself.

So when the Nazi killed the Jews the Germans actually sympathized with them?


Because obviously Hitler put up posters everywhere saying "oh yeah, we're systematically killing your countrymen".
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:39 am

Ovisterra wrote:
CTALNH wrote:So when the Nazi killed the Jews the Germans actually sympathized with them?


Because obviously Hitler put up posters everywhere saying "oh yeah, we're systematically killing your countrymen".

Oh yeah really?

I know the people are slightly stupid cattle but really?You think their that stupid?

Come on the Night of the Long Knives?The Nuremberg Laws?What where they blind to not know?
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:42 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
Because obviously Hitler put up posters everywhere saying "oh yeah, we're systematically killing your countrymen".

Oh yeah really?

I know the people are slightly stupid cattle but really?You think their that stupid?

Come on the Night of the Long Knives?The Nuremberg Laws?What where they blind to not know?


Funnily enough, neither of those things involved murdering Jews.

The latter was a wide-ranging persecution, but there was little to no historical precedent for what the Nazis actually did to the Jews, Roma, gays etc.
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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:42 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
Because obviously Hitler put up posters everywhere saying "oh yeah, we're systematically killing your countrymen".

Oh yeah really?

I know the people are slightly stupid cattle but really?You think their that stupid?

Come on the Night of the Long Knives?


You do realise that was mostly a move against the SA and various political enemies, right?

The Nuremberg Laws?What where they blind to not know?


Republicans try to stop gay people from marrying who they like. They pass laws restricting their rights. Does this mean we should all suspect the Republicans are operating concentration camps?
Removing the text from people's sigs doesn't make it any less true. I stand with Yalta.

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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:43 am

Ovisterra wrote: Does this mean we should all suspect the Republicans are operating concentration camps?

You mean they're not?

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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:50 am

Ovisterra wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Oh yeah really?

I know the people are slightly stupid cattle but really?You think their that stupid?

Come on the Night of the Long Knives?


You do realise that was mostly a move against the SA and various political enemies, right?

The Nuremberg Laws?What where they blind to not know?


Republicans try to stop gay people from marrying who they like. They pass laws restricting their rights. Does this mean we should all suspect the Republicans are operating concentration camps?

So what Guantanamo bay doesn't exist because you know USA says it doesn't?

Or that the USA has many other concentration camps?

Or that the USA gives prisoners to other countries so they can torture them?Because its technically legal?
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:51 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
You do realise that was mostly a move against the SA and various political enemies, right?



Republicans try to stop gay people from marrying who they like. They pass laws restricting their rights. Does this mean we should all suspect the Republicans are operating concentration camps?

So what Guantanamo bay doesn't exist because you know USA says it doesn't?


...what? They don't deny it exists, and even if they did, that would have fuck all to do with what I just said.

Or that the USA has many other concentration camps?

Or that the USA gives prisoners to other countries so they can torture them?Because its technically legal?


I think you missed the point by several kilometres.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:54 am

Ovisterra wrote:
CTALNH wrote:So what Guantanamo bay doesn't exist because you know USA says it doesn't?


...what? They don't deny it exists, and even if they did, that would have fuck all to do with what I just said.

Or that the USA has many other concentration camps?

Or that the USA gives prisoners to other countries so they can torture them?Because its technically legal?


I think you missed the point by several kilometres.

What was you point?No really...What is it.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:55 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
...what? They don't deny it exists, and even if they did, that would have fuck all to do with what I just said.



I think you missed the point by several kilometres.

What was you point?No really...What is it.

What the fuck was yours with this derailment?

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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:57 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
...what? They don't deny it exists, and even if they did, that would have fuck all to do with what I just said.



I think you missed the point by several kilometres.

What was you point?No really...What is it.


My point was that Hitler's obvious hatred of Jews wasn't sufficient basis for people to go "oh yeah, he must be murdering them". The point of that was to destroy your example of Nazi Germany which was meant to say that people who have been murdered aren't sympathised with.

Your Nazi Germany example was bullshit anyway because the sympathy thing only works when people are murdered for politics.
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Postby Heliodor » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:59 am

Both. It's wrong, but it's also free speech.

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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:09 am

Ovisterra wrote:
CTALNH wrote:What was you point?No really...What is it.


My point was that Hitler's obvious hatred of Jews wasn't sufficient basis for people to go "oh yeah, he must be murdering them". The point of that was to destroy your example of Nazi Germany which was meant to say that people who have been murdered aren't sympathised with.

Your Nazi Germany example was bullshit anyway because the sympathy thing only works when people are murdered for politics.

So Jews where not murdered for politics?

Really?
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Varijnland » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:11 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
My point was that Hitler's obvious hatred of Jews wasn't sufficient basis for people to go "oh yeah, he must be murdering them". The point of that was to destroy your example of Nazi Germany which was meant to say that people who have been murdered aren't sympathised with.

Your Nazi Germany example was bullshit anyway because the sympathy thing only works when people are murdered for politics.

So Jews where not murdered for politics?

Really?

No, they were murded for being Jewish.

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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:11 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
My point was that Hitler's obvious hatred of Jews wasn't sufficient basis for people to go "oh yeah, he must be murdering them". The point of that was to destroy your example of Nazi Germany which was meant to say that people who have been murdered aren't sympathised with.

Your Nazi Germany example was bullshit anyway because the sympathy thing only works when people are murdered for politics.

So Jews where not murdered for politics?

Really?


They were murdered as scapegoats, not because of anything they actually did.

In both the 1916 Rising (my example) and the White Supremacist Murdering (your wish), people were murdered for their ideologies and their actions instead of their ethnic origins. Completely different.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:14 am

Varijnland wrote:
CTALNH wrote:So Jews where not murdered for politics?

Really?

No, they were murded for being Jewish.

Yes they where used us a political scapegoat like the Bolsheviks...

Everything is politically linked!
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"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Ovisterra » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:16 am

CTALNH wrote:
Varijnland wrote:No, they were murded for being Jewish.

Yes they where used us a political scapegoat like the Bolsheviks...

Everything is politically linked!


Ovisterra wrote:They were murdered as scapegoats, not because of anything they actually did.

In both the 1916 Rising (my example) and the White Supremacist Murdering (your wish), people were murdered for their ideologies and their actions instead of their ethnic origins. Completely different.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:21 am

Ovisterra wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Yes they where used us a political scapegoat like the Bolsheviks...

Everything is politically linked!


Ovisterra wrote:They were murdered as scapegoats, not because of anything they actually did.

In both the 1916 Rising (my example) and the White Supremacist Murdering (your wish), people were murdered for their ideologies and their actions instead of their ethnic origins. Completely different.

I don't seem to grasp what your trying to tell me...
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:20 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
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You are a bizarre and saddening person, you know that?


Define "normal population". I'm betting they fit right in if you start looking at things like poverty levels, crappy societal treatment, crappier childhoods, and other sociological and psychological causes of crime.


Wahh, someone who grew up surrounded by violence has trouble adjusting! Wah!


I'm betting they are vastly outnumbered by the immigrants going about their daily lives bothering no one, who simply never make the news due to being boring as toast.


:palm: If they wanted a place just like the oppressive shithole they came from, why would they leave in the first place?


We don't need immigrants that will have problems adapting. I bet an upper middle class Chinese engineer will fit in with European society better than a poor Somalian goat herder with Islamic Fascist views. If I had to choose I would say take the Chinese man and let the Somalian stay at home and rebuild his nation. We need immigrants that are BETTER than the average European. This will make the nations stronger. Why weaken the population pool with people BELOW the average (in education, income, and religious viewpoints)?

Sure most immigrants are fine. The ones that are cool probably come from India, China, Latin America, and Japan. They probably don't come from the Middle East or Africa and belong to a hate group that shall be nameless.

The goal is Caliphate. They want to have money and a nice house and nice weather and maybe a couple hot blonde wives (that will be converted and wear a burqa) but they also want to live in an Islamic nation. They want the good things of Europe (money, women, climate) but they don't want the 'immoral things' (alcohol, drugs, women in skirts, women's rights, non-Islamic religions).

http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/isla ... lim-dream/

http://www.cogwriter.com/news/religious ... caliphate/

"[President] Bush says that we want to enslave people and oppress their freedom of speech," says Abu Abdullah, a senior member of Hizb ut-Tahrir, the Party of Liberation. "But we want to free all people from being slaves of men and make them slaves of Allah."

http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0510/p01s04-wome.html

http://frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfiel ... ate-goals/

Firstly, you've made 1.5k posts, learn how to use the quote and spoiler functions already. Secondly, blogs are not sources, get over it. Thirdly, nations do not work like chemical solutions or any other such nonsense like that. And finally, people are not hiveminds, regardless of where they come from, so stop with the fucking bigotry.

Edit: fixed a tag problem you created
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Postby Pillea » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:35 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
"Why would there be millions of them"

"Why do numbers have anything to do with it"

You're being a hypocrite. Pick one and stick with it.


That doesn't make any sense.

What I'm saying is, if White Supremacy is such a bad idea, and doesn't have any fact, then why would millions believe in it?


You tell me, how many religious people exist? And how many of them have facts?
Same principle. People believe things based on little to no evidence. Both good and bad things.
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Postby Rocopurr » Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:54 am

It is free speech but any form of racial supremacy is wrong.
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Postby Vettrera » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:16 pm

It's wrong...but completely legal.
Though I do feel a little apprehensive in saying so, because my race is probably one of the main targets of their aggression.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:17 pm

Starkiller101 wrote:IS being a white sumpremist wrong Or is it free speech ( Us only)


How about both?


I think it wrong because there is no pure people any more. So white supremacy seems wrong. >:(


'Tis my duty as a Nazi to say I am disappoint. But seriously, this is just a matter of how you define racial purity. White supremacists have no trouble coming up with a definition that allows some people to be considered "racially pure." Are they still genetically related to the rest of the human species? Yes, of course. But the connection between human "races" is not what the white supremacists are interested in.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:32 am

Vettrera wrote:It's wrong...but completely legal.
Though I do feel a little apprehensive in saying so, because my race is probably one of the main targets of their aggression.

Switch to NASCAR, they'll love you.
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