White supremacy

[Desperate Measures]

There's no evidence, so no, it isn't. "We don't know" does not mean "Must be God."

No one said "must be god"

All I'm saying is, if you have absolutely no idea how everything came to being, there is no way you can conclude it was or Wasn't something.

Was or wasn't space turtle eggs.

[Napkiraly]

I'm betting they are vastly outnumbered by the immigrants going about their daily lives bothering no one, who simply never make the news due to being boring as toast.

In my time here in London, I'd say I've met more Muslims breaking Koranic customs and such than following them.

I've met only a handful of incredibly religious Muslims and even then most don't want Sharia law to become the norm here.

[Farnhamia]

A supernatural deity can neither be proven to exist nor not proven to exist in the context of this problem.

Simply put, we cannot know what existed prior to the Big Bang, because time and space as we know it do not exist before the Big Bang. It would be like trying to piece together what events occurred in front of a video camera before someone clicked 'record'. We can guess, but we'll never have solid proof.

If you wish to believe a God exists, that's fine, but there is no proof of his existence in the context of the Big Bang. And by the null hypothesis, that means by default God does not exist in the context of the Big Bang.

Let me ask you this, if God was real, and is how the bible says he is, a great being that declares the end from the beginning, and that all men fall short of the glory of God, if that were true, then wouldn't that mean that the knowledge of man is limited, therefore a limited being cannot comprehend an unlimited being?

That's a cop-out, like telling a kid, "You wouldn't understand, it's an adult thing." I see no evidence of this "God" and his "glory." I do see a lot of myths and legends and a messianic Jew whose followers got incredibly lucky and captured the Roman Empire.

[Agymnum]

Let me ask you this, if God was real, and is how the bible says he is, a great being that declares the end from the beginning, and that all men fall short of the glory of God, if that were true, then wouldn't that mean that the knowledge of man is limited, therefore a limited being cannot comprehend an unlimited being?

If we cannot comprehend an unlimited being, there is no sense in attempting to worship or communicate with him. There's a reason why we assign ridicule and not reverence to things we decry as "incomprehensible".

If the question of "Does God exist?" is incomprehensible, would I not lump its importance with such incomprehensible questions as:

"What does purple taste like?"

"What does the Invisible Pink Unicorn look like?"

"What color is a square?"

[Farnhamia]

Let me ask you this, if God was real, and is how the bible says he is, a great being that declares the end from the beginning, and that all men fall short of the glory of God, if that were true, then wouldn't that mean that the knowledge of man is limited, therefore a limited being cannot comprehend an unlimited being?

If we cannot comprehend an unlimited being, there is no sense in attempting to worship or communicate with him. There's a reason why we assign ridicule and not reverence to things we decry as "incomprehensible".

If the question of "Does God exist?" is incomprehensible, would I not lump its importance with such incomprehensible questions as:

"What does purple taste like?"

"What does the Invisible Pink Unicorn look like?"

"What color is a square?"

Grapes, a pink horse with a horn on its head, red. But yes, an incomprehensible being is effectively non-existent.

[Rheinlander]

Let me ask you this, if God was real, and is how the bible says he is, a great being that declares the end from the beginning, and that all men fall short of the glory of God, if that were true, then wouldn't that mean that the knowledge of man is limited, therefore a limited being cannot comprehend an unlimited being?

That's a cop-out, like telling a kid, "You wouldn't understand, it's an adult thing." I see no evidence of this "God" and his "glory." I do see a lot of myths and legends and a messianic Jew whose followers got incredibly lucky and captured the Roman Empire.

I'll ask again, for the sake of the argument, if God was indeed real, thus being an unlimited being, including unlimited knowledge, is it logical to conclude that a limited being, not finding any reason in the unlimited being, have the authority to deem the unlimited knowledge, or being, as not real?

[Rheinlander]

Let me ask you this, if God was real, and is how the bible says he is, a great being that declares the end from the beginning, and that all men fall short of the glory of God, if that were true, then wouldn't that mean that the knowledge of man is limited, therefore a limited being cannot comprehend an unlimited being?

If we cannot comprehend an unlimited being, there is no sense in attempting to worship or communicate with him. There's a reason why we assign ridicule and not reverence to things we decry as "incomprehensible".

If the question of "Does God exist?" is incomprehensible, would I not lump its importance with such incomprehensible questions as:

"What does purple taste like?"

"What does the Invisible Pink Unicorn look like?"

"What color is a square?"

Why would there be no sense in worshiping him?

[Farnhamia]

That's a cop-out, like telling a kid, "You wouldn't understand, it's an adult thing." I see no evidence of this "God" and his "glory." I do see a lot of myths and legends and a messianic Jew whose followers got incredibly lucky and captured the Roman Empire.

I'll ask again, for the sake of the argument, if God was indeed real, thus being an unlimited being, including unlimited knowledge, is it logical to conclude that a limited being, not finding any reason in the unlimited being, have the authority to deem the unlimited knowledge, or being, as not real?

It is absolutely reasonable to declare such a being as non-existent when there is no evidence of such a being in the world, and when there is evidence that the universe began without it.

[Neutraligon]

That's a cop-out, like telling a kid, "You wouldn't understand, it's an adult thing." I see no evidence of this "God" and his "glory." I do see a lot of myths and legends and a messianic Jew whose followers got incredibly lucky and captured the Roman Empire.

I'll ask again, for the sake of the argument, if God was indeed real, thus being an unlimited being, including unlimited knowledge, is it logical to conclude that a limited being, not finding any reason in the unlimited being, have the authority to deem the unlimited knowledge, or being, as not real?

Why are we talking about god (which one are we dealing with again?) in a white supremacy thread?

[Farnhamia]

I'll ask again, for the sake of the argument, if God was indeed real, thus being an unlimited being, including unlimited knowledge, is it logical to conclude that a limited being, not finding any reason in the unlimited being, have the authority to deem the unlimited knowledge, or being, as not real?

Why are we talking about god in a white supremacy thread?

I think he's trying to work us around to a place where he can slap us with irrefutable science that the white race is superior to all others.

[Agymnum]

Why would there be no sense in worshiping him?

Why the fuck would you worship something you couldn't understand?

So you're telling me people without a college education should worship quantum mechanics? Or maybe first graders should worship Algebra. Kindergarteners should worship multiplication.

You reserve respect and reverence for things you can understand and thus fully appreciate for what they do. If we cannot understand God and thus not understand what he does, why worship him?

[Neutraligon]

Why are we talking about god in a white supremacy thread?

I think he's trying to work us around to a place where he can slap us with irrefutable science that the white race is superior to all others.

What a round about path. Can't we just get strait to the point, it would waste less time.

[Desperate Measures]

I'll ask again, for the sake of the argument, if God was indeed real, thus being an unlimited being, including unlimited knowledge, is it logical to conclude that a limited being, not finding any reason in the unlimited being, have the authority to deem the unlimited knowledge, or being, as not real?

Why are we talking about god (which one are we dealing with again?) in a white supremacy thread?

White Supremacists love God. All that big white cloud power.

[Menassa]

Why are we talking about god in a white supremacy thread?

I think he's trying to work us around to a place where he can slap us with irrefutable science that the white race is superior to all others.

They didn't say the Ham thing?

Darn...

[Farnhamia]

I think he's trying to work us around to a place where he can slap us with irrefutable science that the white race is superior to all others.

What a round about path. Can't we just get strait to the point, it would waste less time.

He tried with Schopenhauer and some guy named Franz Pruner and some quotes from Darwin but that didn't work.

[Rheinlander]

Why would there be no sense in worshiping him?

Why the fuck would you worship something you couldn't understand?

So you're telling me people without a college education should worship quantum mechanics? Or maybe first graders should worship Algebra. Kindergarteners should worship multiplication.

You reserve respect and reverence for things you can understand and thus fully appreciate for what they do. If we cannot understand God and thus not understand what he does, why worship him?

I didn't say understand him, I said understand his existence, and how or why he does things. If he is unlimited, and we are limited, then it is impossible for us to comprehend his existence.

If you cannot find a legitimate reason for worship, how about the fact that he asks people to?

[Agymnum]

What a round about path. Can't we just get strait to the point, it would waste less time.

He tried with Schopenhauer and some guy named Franz Pruner and some quotes from Darwin but that didn't work.

His mistake is in thinking that scientists are treated as infallible by the scientific community as God is treated as infallible by the Abrahamic religious community.

If you cannot find a legitimate reason for worship, how about the fact that he asks people to?

I ask that all Filipinos bow down to my greatness, that I may lead a peaceful overthrow of the government and install a democratic socialist state with freedom and economic security.

All I ask in return is that they kiss my feet whenever I stand up and they pray to me instead of whatever irrelevant deity they would otherwise.

[Neutraligon]

Why are we talking about god (which one are we dealing with again?) in a white supremacy thread?

White Supremacists love God. All that big white cloud power.

Which one, after all we are mentioning a god creating the universe, but there are so many of those creation stories, it's hard to know which one is "correct." I particularly like some of the native American ones myself. So Rheinlander, do you respect the Native American gods?

[Rheinlander]

I'll ask again, for the sake of the argument, if God was indeed real, thus being an unlimited being, including unlimited knowledge, is it logical to conclude that a limited being, not finding any reason in the unlimited being, have the authority to deem the unlimited knowledge, or being, as not real?

It is absolutely reasonable to declare such a being as non-existent when there is no evidence of such a being in the world, and when there is evidence that the universe began without it.

Reasonable, within the limited beings existence, unreasonable, for a limited being to attempt and explain the existence of an unlimited being with unlimited knowledge.

You cannot imagine God, without reducing him.

[Farnhamia]

It is absolutely reasonable to declare such a being as non-existent when there is no evidence of such a being in the world, and when there is evidence that the universe began without it.

Reasonable, within the limited beings existence, unreasonable, for a limited being to attempt and explain the existence of an unlimited being with unlimited knowledge.

You cannot imagine God, without reducing him.

If imagining God reduces him, believers have been reducing him for millennia.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Reasonable, within the limited beings existence, unreasonable, for a limited being to attempt and explain the existence of an unlimited being with unlimited knowledge.

You cannot imagine God, without reducing him.

If imagining God reduces him, believers have been reducing him for millennia.

He's now just a bowl of sugar and three eggs.

[Farnhamia]

If imagining God reduces him, believers have been reducing him for millennia.

He's now just a bowl of sugar and three eggs.

And the eggs are probably a little off by now.

[Neutraligon]

Rheinlander, could you please explain how these questions about god have anything to do with the topic. As it is we are threadjacking.

[Menassa]

Rheinlander, could you please explain how these questions about god have anything to do with the topic. As it is we are threadjacking.

A verse in Genesis... or at least... I hope not.

[Agymnum]

Rheinlander, could you please explain how these questions about god have anything to do with the topic. As it is we are threadjacking.

A verse in Genesis... or at least... I hope not.

Don't give him any ideas. I want him to either get direct or just shut up, because as it is he's embarrassing the white supremacist movement.

Not that there was much to embarrass in the first place.