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1.It wrong "explain"
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2. its not "explain why"
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Postby Agymnum » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:01 am

Rheinlander wrote:
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Supremacy implies your race is above all other races. That's where we have the issue.


Well if there wasn't evidence of this, why would there be millions of them?


-_-

Argumentum ad populum.

The most superior race on Earth must be the bacteria, as they are the most numerous.
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Postby Disserbia » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:01 am

Divair wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:I've never heard of that, excuse my ignorance.

I imagine it's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructivism_(learning_theory)

Your link was better for these purposes than mine. How is it that you know what I'm talking about better than I do. GTFO mah brane!
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Postby Rheinlander » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:01 am

Agymnum wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:
Well if there wasn't evidence of this, why would there be millions of them?


-_-

Argumentum ad populum.

The most superior race on Earth must be the bacteria, as they are the most numerous.


Why do numbers have anything to do with it?

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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:01 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Supremacy implies your race is above all other races. That's where we have the issue.


Well if there wasn't evidence of this, why would there be millions of them?

Same reason there are nut-jobs who think 9/11 is an inside job, the Moon landing is fake, the Earth is flat, creationism is real, and that Obama is a Muslim.
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Postby Agymnum » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:02 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
-_-

Argumentum ad populum.

The most superior race on Earth must be the bacteria, as they are the most numerous.


Why do numbers have anything to do with it?


"Why would there be millions of them"

"Why do numbers have anything to do with it"

You're being a hypocrite. Pick one and stick with it.
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Postby Disserbia » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:02 am

Agymnum wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:
Well if there wasn't evidence of this, why would there be millions of them?


-_-

Argumentum ad populum.

The most superior race on Earth must be the bacteria, as they are the most numerous.

Well then they are superior in that way. The problem with the word superior is that is it subjective. Usually. When it comes to this anyway.
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Postby Rheinlander » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:05 am

Agymnum wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:
Why do numbers have anything to do with it?


"Why would there be millions of them"

"Why do numbers have anything to do with it"

You're being a hypocrite. Pick one and stick with it.


That doesn't make any sense.

What I'm saying is, if White Supremacy is such a bad idea, and doesn't have any fact, then why would millions believe in it?

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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:06 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
"Why would there be millions of them"

"Why do numbers have anything to do with it"

You're being a hypocrite. Pick one and stick with it.


That doesn't make any sense.

What I'm saying is, if White Supremacy is such a bad idea, and doesn't have any fact, then why would millions believe in it?

Divair wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:
Well if there wasn't evidence of this, why would there be millions of them?

Same reason there are nut-jobs who think 9/11 is an inside job, the Moon landing is fake, the Earth is flat, creationism is real, and that Obama is a Muslim.

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Postby Agymnum » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:06 am

Rheinlander wrote:That doesn't make any sense.

What I'm saying is, if White Supremacy is such a bad idea, and doesn't have any fact, then why would millions believe in it?


Argumentum ad populum.

Millions who believe a lie do not make that lie a truth.

See: Religion; the Nazis; Creationism
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Postby Rheinlander » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:07 am

Agymnum wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:That doesn't make any sense.

What I'm saying is, if White Supremacy is such a bad idea, and doesn't have any fact, then why would millions believe in it?


Argumentum ad populum.

Millions who believe a lie do not make that lie a truth.

See: Religion; the Nazis; Creationism


Why is it so wrong to be a Christian?

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Postby Agymnum » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:09 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Argumentum ad populum.

Millions who believe a lie do not make that lie a truth.

See: Religion; the Nazis; Creationism


Why is it so wrong to be a Christian?


Are you putting words in my mouth or what?

I never said being a Christian was wrong. I said that religion convinces millions of people that lies are truths (i.e. Earth is only around 6,000 years old; humans were created a few days after Earth was created; the was a giant flood that wiped out most of the Humans except one family), but this does not make those lies true.

White supremacy is the same. Convincing a bunch of people that something is true does not make it true.

Also see: Hoaxes.
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Postby Rheinlander » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:10 am

Agymnum wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:
Why is it so wrong to be a Christian?


Are you putting words in my mouth or what?

I never said being a Christian was wrong. I said that religion convinces millions of people that lies are truths (i.e. Earth is only around 6,000 years old; humans were created a few days after Earth was created; the was a giant flood that wiped out most of the Humans except one family), but this does not make those lies true.

White supremacy is the same. Convincing a bunch of people that something is true does not make it true.

Also see: Hoaxes.


Well if you don't believe it, it doesn't make it a lie.

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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:11 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Are you putting words in my mouth or what?

I never said being a Christian was wrong. I said that religion convinces millions of people that lies are truths (i.e. Earth is only around 6,000 years old; humans were created a few days after Earth was created; the was a giant flood that wiped out most of the Humans except one family), but this does not make those lies true.

White supremacy is the same. Convincing a bunch of people that something is true does not make it true.

Also see: Hoaxes.


Well if you don't believe it, it doesn't make it a lie.

And believing in it doesn't make it true.

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Postby Agymnum » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:12 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Are you putting words in my mouth or what?

I never said being a Christian was wrong. I said that religion convinces millions of people that lies are truths (i.e. Earth is only around 6,000 years old; humans were created a few days after Earth was created; the was a giant flood that wiped out most of the Humans except one family), but this does not make those lies true.

White supremacy is the same. Convincing a bunch of people that something is true does not make it true.

Also see: Hoaxes.


Well if you don't believe it, it doesn't make it a lie.


Scientific evidence shows the Earth to be around 4.54 billion years old.

This does not correspond with Christian Young-Earth creationist claims that it is a mere 6,000 years old.

The science is objective and has been proven many times. It is not a lie.

The creation story is a lie, and yet people believe. Argumentum ad populum.

If we judged a food's deliciousness by how many organisms consumed it, feces would rank up as the most delicious of foods.
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Postby Disserbia » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:13 am

Agymnum wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:
Why is it so wrong to be a Christian?


Are you putting words in my mouth or what?

I never said being a Christian was wrong. I said that religion convinces millions of people that lies are truths (i.e. Earth is only around 6,000 years old; humans were created a few days after Earth was created; the was a giant flood that wiped out most of the Humans except one family), but this does not make those lies true.

White supremacy is the same. Convincing a bunch of people that something is true does not make it true.

Also see: Hoaxes.

No true Christian.
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Postby Agymnum » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:14 am

Disserbia wrote:No true Christian.


Was that directed at me, or him?

If it was at me, please clarify what error you found in my post.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:15 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
"Why would there be millions of them"

"Why do numbers have anything to do with it"

You're being a hypocrite. Pick one and stick with it.


That doesn't make any sense.

What I'm saying is, if White Supremacy is such a bad idea, and doesn't have any fact, then why would millions believe in it?

Millions believed in slavery too, that's not such a bad idea, amirite?
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Postby Rheinlander » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:15 am

Agymnum wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:
Well if you don't believe it, it doesn't make it a lie.


Scientific evidence shows the Earth to be around 4.54 billion years old.

This does not correspond with Christian Young-Earth creationist claims that it is a mere 6,000 years old.

The science is objective and has been proven many times. It is not a lie.

The creation story is a lie, and yet people believe. Argumentum ad populum.

If we judged a food's deliciousness by how many organisms consumed it, feces would rank up as the most delicious of foods.


There's scientific evidence for many things:

"Arthur Schopenhauer (1788–1860), who naturalistically attributed civilizational primacy to the white races who gained sensitivity and intelligence via the refinement consequent to living in the rigorous North climate; to wit:
The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste, or race, is fairer in colour than the rest, and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmins, the Inca, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention, because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers, and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want, and misery, which, in their many forms, were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature, and out of it all came their high civilization."

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Postby Agymnum » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:16 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:
That doesn't make any sense.

What I'm saying is, if White Supremacy is such a bad idea, and doesn't have any fact, then why would millions believe in it?

Millions believed in slavery too, that's not such a bad idea, amirite?


I'm all for enslaving anyone who doesn't get at least a high school education.

It's not like they're gonna do anything productive with their lives, am I right?

/sarcasm
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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:17 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Agymnum wrote:
Scientific evidence shows the Earth to be around 4.54 billion years old.

This does not correspond with Christian Young-Earth creationist claims that it is a mere 6,000 years old.

The science is objective and has been proven many times. It is not a lie.

The creation story is a lie, and yet people believe. Argumentum ad populum.

If we judged a food's deliciousness by how many organisms consumed it, feces would rank up as the most delicious of foods.


There's scientific evidence for many things:

"Arthur Schopenhauer (1788–1860), who naturalistically attributed civilizational primacy to the white races who gained sensitivity and intelligence via the refinement consequent to living in the rigorous North climate; to wit:
The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste, or race, is fairer in colour than the rest, and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmins, the Inca, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention, because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers, and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want, and misery, which, in their many forms, were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature, and out of it all came their high civilization."

Some old fuck saying things doesn't make them true.


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Postby Agymnum » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:18 am

Rheinlander wrote:There's scientific evidence for many things:

"Arthur Schopenhauer (1788–1860), who naturalistically attributed civilizational primacy to the white races who gained sensitivity and intelligence via the refinement consequent to living in the rigorous North climate; to wit:
The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste, or race, is fairer in colour than the rest, and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmins, the Inca, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention, because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers, and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want, and misery, which, in their many forms, were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature, and out of it all came their high civilization."


1788 - 1860?

Get me a more up-to-date source so I'll actually have something valid to tear apart. This interpretation screams bullshit as it doesn't account for the high culture of China and Japan.
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Postby Rheinlander » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:20 am

Divair wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:
There's scientific evidence for many things:

"Arthur Schopenhauer (1788–1860), who naturalistically attributed civilizational primacy to the white races who gained sensitivity and intelligence via the refinement consequent to living in the rigorous North climate; to wit:
The highest civilization and culture, apart from the ancient Hindus and Egyptians, are found exclusively among the white races; and even with many dark peoples, the ruling caste, or race, is fairer in colour than the rest, and has, therefore, evidently immigrated, for example, the Brahmins, the Inca, and the rulers of the South Sea Islands. All this is due to the fact that necessity is the mother of invention, because those tribes that emigrated early to the north, and there gradually became white, had to develop all their intellectual powers, and invent and perfect all the arts in their struggle with need, want, and misery, which, in their many forms, were brought about by the climate. This they had to do in order to make up for the parsimony of nature, and out of it all came their high civilization."

Some old fuck saying things doesn't make them true.


l2scientificevidence


The point is, there's scientific evidence for a lot of things.

More:

"Franz Ignaz Pruner was a medical doctor who studied the racial structure of Negros in Egypt. In a book which he wrote in 1846 he claimed that Negro blood had a negative influence on the Egyptian moral character. He published a monograph on Negros in 1861. He claimed that the main feature of the Negros skeleton is prognathism, which he claimed was Negros relation to the ape. He also claimed that Negros had very similar brains to apes and that Negros have a shortened big toe which is a character which connects the Negros close to apes."

As you can see, not all scientific research, ideas or evidence may be true.

Unless of course, you agree with our buddy Franz Ignaz Pruner.

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Postby The Hanza » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:21 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Divair wrote:Some old fuck saying things doesn't make them true.


l2scientificevidence


The point is, there's scientific evidence for a lot of things.

More:

"Franz Ignaz Pruner was a medical doctor who studied the racial structure of Negros in Egypt. In a book which he wrote in 1846 he claimed that Negro blood had a negative influence on the Egyptian moral character. He published a monograph on Negros in 1861. He claimed that the main feature of the Negros skeleton is prognathism, which he claimed was Negros relation to the ape. He also claimed that Negros had very similar brains to apes and that Negros have a shortened big toe which is a character which connects the Negros close to apes."

As you can see, not all scientific research, ideas or evidence may be true.

Unless of course, you agree with our buddy Franz Ignaz Pruner.

You do realize that racial science has more or less been completely abandoned, yes?
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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:21 am

Rheinlander wrote:
Divair wrote:Some old fuck saying things doesn't make them true.


l2scientificevidence


The point is, there's scientific evidence for a lot of things.

More:

"Franz Ignaz Pruner was a medical doctor who studied the racial structure of Negros in Egypt. In a book which he wrote in 1846 he claimed that Negro blood had a negative influence on the Egyptian moral character. He published a monograph on Negros in 1861. He claimed that the main feature of the Negros skeleton is prognathism, which he claimed was Negros relation to the ape. He also claimed that Negros had very similar brains to apes and that Negros have a shortened big toe which is a character which connects the Negros close to apes."

As you can see, not all scientific research, ideas or evidence may be true.

Unless of course, you agree with our buddy Franz Ignaz Pruner.

Up to date, peer-reviewed scientific papers. Go get some.
Old fucks writing things don't make them true.


You're seriously bad at this. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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Postby Agymnum » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:21 am

Rheinlander wrote:The point is, there's scientific evidence for a lot of things.


The scientific evidence you've posted so far has been proven to be, as more polite men would say it, "a load of bunk". Post some credible evidence of white supremacy - that hasn't been disproven - and we'll start talking.
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