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Is white supremacy wrong

1.It wrong "explain"
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2. its not "explain why"
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3. Other "Please explain"
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:09 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:There are pure whites (assuming Adam and Eve were white).

Being allegorical, they can be whatever color you want them to be. Now, if you wish to discuss a scientific matter, such as genetics and phenotypes, I suggest you stick to facts to avoid machine gunning your credibility in the foot yet again.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:18 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:They deserved it. They felt no shame for the Rape of Nanjing, the Bataan Death March, the prison experiment camps in China (similar to the Nazi experiment camps) or their other various war crimes. The people kept Hirohito in power for 44 years after the war until he died. They still celebrate Hirohito's birthday 68 years after the war during Japan's Golden Week.

No, the people needed to get revenge for the suffering they caused. They still haven't learned their lessons. They have a superiority complex (and many are racist but this is forgotten by white liberals because no non-whites can be racist).


Saying they deserved it and that revenge is something you should give your opponents is indicative of a childish, immature manner. This is the reason we do not elect the youth to the office of president - because when they demonstrate behavior like this they are clearly unready for it.

We should not forget the atrocities the Japanese committed, but neither should we justify these atrocities by committing our own. If someone murders a person in my family, I am not justified in murdering that person because that's not how justice works. You do not stoop to the level of your offender, because then you become an equal offender in and of yourself.


Plenty of countries with the death penalty, including China and Iran, will disagree on your stance regarding no justification for killing the man who murdered your family member. They would want the offender to get a fair trial though (to be sure you don't kill the wrong person).

"An eye for an eye" was likely written by an adult male. Also, Harry Truman was an adult and he felt the bombing would save American lives. Maybe if the Japanese surrendered earlier we wouldn't have had to use it. It took 2 bombs, they didn't even learn after the first one! If you meet an enemy that refuses to surrender you must make life harsh for them until they give up. The 2 bombs were finally enough to make the Japanese come to their senses. I hope there were some Nanjing rapists there and I hoped they died a slow death from the bombings. Sometimes you have to get down and dirty and stoop to the enemy's level. That is the only way they will understand things. The USA is failing in Iraq and Afghanistan because we won't go to the enemy's level and they disrespect us for that.

Most Germans repented. The Nazi leadership faced punishments. Hitler died and I did not see anything honoring Hitler in Germany but Hirohito has a national holiday. People that honor Hitler are called racists but Hirohito lovers are patriots.

http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworl ... pan15.html

I guess it is OK to support killing hundreds of thousands of people as long as you are not white. Bush is sick for attending his funeral, so are a bunch of other leaders that went. Plenty of men that were Bush's age died at the hands of the Japanese military. I guess the fact Japan is a valuable trading partner means we should ignore the heavy sins of the past. Plenty of people rot in jail for lesser crimes. Charles Manson is a nutball but he only is involved in a few deaths, Hirohito is involved in thousands. He was not the biggest war hawk in Japan but he was no peace dove either.

http://articles.latimes.com/1989-02-24/ ... r-hirohito

Japanese leaders often go here to honor the war dead.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/List+of+C ... 0149782091

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... stice.html
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:21 pm

Brition wrote:White supremacy is all too often labelled on to White nationalists, who in turn are seen as racist people.

How can you expect a group that feels threatened to integrate if its opinions aren't considered?

Who says we haven't considered them and simply rejected them for their stupidity?
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:23 pm

Brition wrote:
Pillea wrote:
They also think that being from an impoverished country is proof that you are lesser or more corrupt.

And yeah. It does.


You aren't him/her so you wouldn't know.

But again, this is a grand example of how "progressive pro-choice" leftist individuals are actually massive hypocrites, since they're just as intolerant as the people they vilify.

OR we've actually listened to him talk for five minutes.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:27 pm

Brition wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
I believe I said we can consider Bhutanese OK because they don't seem to have genocide or mass suicide bombings. They seem poor but civilized.

If you find proof that Somalia, Iraq, and Afghanistan have religious freedom, good women's rights, decent education, and low crime rates than we can consider them for immigration.

Poverty does not make the nation bad, high rates of violence and religious attacks do.


^ I like this, and can't see how anyone can dismiss it as ilogical.

Person X is fleeing country Y because country Y lacks human rights protections that prevent person X from being persecuted and/or oppressed. Country Z refuses to let person X in, because country Y lacks human rights protections that prevent persecution and/or oppression, thus indicating that person X is likely an uncivilized heathen that will attempt to drag country z down to being as bad as country Y.

If you cannot see the problem with this, the error lies in your head, not those of people who disagree with you.

Edit: further replies:
The Oan Isles wrote:"White supremacy indicates the level of white stupidity. In general especially in the country I live in white people have crooked teeth and yellow teeth, always in need of a pair of glasses, they look like they don't bathe nor use lotion, they are not stylish and their stupid love of controversy and clear lack of intelligence, pornographic addiction, attention seeking slutty behaviour often makes me ask why whites even bothered thinking they were human when all the other races are far better." - Danny Amay, Black Specialist Commentator from South Africa.

As far as google is concerned, this quote doesn't exist, nor does Danny Amay. I'm calling BS. Not that it matters, as real or not, as the existence of opposing bigots does not excuse other bigots.

Edit to the edit: typo


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Freiheit Reich wrote:
This might be a reason God made people with darker skin. It seems Arabs should have been made the darkest though due to the heavy sunlight. Maybe their clothing styles helped make their skin lighter over hundreds of years. Not sure why Somalis are much darker than Arab Sudanese despite similar weather though.

God works in mysterious ways it seems.

Can anybody tell me why God made Africans the darkest but kept Arabians fairly lighter skinned? Maybe we have a religious scholar in this forum.

Or maybe that's just how different breeds of homo sapiens evolved from homo erectus to survive in different conditions, eh?

Only one breed of human.

Edit to this edit: fixed tag


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Fine Fellows wrote:Probably made with horse meat anyway.


My mom swore that that stallion was just a friend!

Now that is pure win.
Last edited by Wikkiwallana on Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:49 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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Nulono wrote:Snip
I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
And even I think that's stupid.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

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Postby Disserbia » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:31 pm

Neo Art wrote:OK, taking bets. I'm saying 14. Who's with me?

Because doing things like this are the epitome of maturity. :roll:
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:58 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
Brition wrote:
^ I like this, and can't see how anyone can dismiss it as ilogical.

Person X is fleeing country Y because country Y lacks human rights protections that prevent person X from being persecuted and/or oppressed. Country Z refuses to let person X in, because country Y lacks human rights protections that prevent persecution and/or oppression, thus indicating that person X is likely an uncivilized heathen that will attempt to drag country z down to being as bad as country Y.

If you cannot see the problem with this, the error lies in your head, not those of people who disagree with you.

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The Oan Isles wrote:"White supremacy indicates the level of white stupidity. In general especially in the country I live in white people have crooked teeth and yellow teeth, always in need of a pair of glasses, they look like they don't bathe nor use lotion, they are not stylish and their stupid love of controversy and clear lack of intelligence, pornographic addiction, attention seeking slutty behaviour often makes me ask why whites even bothered thinking they were human when all the other races are far better." - Danny Amay, Black Specialist Commentator from South Africa.

As far as goole is concerned, this quote doesn't exist, nor does Danny Amay. I'm calling BS. Not that it matters, as real or not, as the existence of opposing bigots does not excuse other bigots.


So you are OK with the London train bombing, the Somali gangs in Minnesota, the riots in Paris, the increase in rapes due to immigrants, the 'no go zones' where real Europeans have to fear walking in?

Immigrants are committing crimes at higher levels than the normal population. Looking at the Europe news, it seems much of these immigrant crimes involves people from nations that would be on my 'do not welcome' list. If Somalians are so great, why are they not assimilating well in the culture? Why are Africans rioting in France? They are ungrateful and should be deported.

Yes, Somalians are Iraqis, and the other uncivilized immigrants will bring the country down to country Y's standards. Look at the immigrants in London with signs saying the nation will be Islamic and imams preaching hate. The goal is Eurabia.
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Postby Faolinn » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:08 pm

It is bullshit to the power of infinity.An idiotic ideology developed about selective reading, illogical hatred, and a willingness to over look historical, environmental, social, and economic factors that determine the course of any society's history which are interconnected to a grand matrix of events and factors playing out all over the globe. They follow a preposterously euro-american centrist view that ignores the history and flow of much of the world. Not to mention the sheer amount of information that has been uncovered by scientists which only serve to make them look like jackasses.
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Postby The Hanza » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:13 pm

It's wrong and the idea of different races is a human construct, but it's that person's right to be racist if they want.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:15 pm

The Hanza wrote:It's wrong and the idea of different races is a human construct, but it's that person's right to be racist if they want.

And ours to disapprove of it publicly.
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Postby The Hanza » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:16 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The Hanza wrote:It's wrong and the idea of different races is a human construct, but it's that person's right to be racist if they want.

And ours to disapprove of it publicly.

Exactly.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:18 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:Person X is fleeing country Y because country Y lacks human rights protections that prevent person X from being persecuted and/or oppressed. Country Z refuses to let person X in, because country Y lacks human rights protections that prevent persecution and/or oppression, thus indicating that person X is likely an uncivilized heathen that will attempt to drag country z down to being as bad as country Y.

If you cannot see the problem with this, the error lies in your head, not those of people who disagree with you.

Edit: further replies:

As far as goole is concerned, this quote doesn't exist, nor does Danny Amay. I'm calling BS. Not that it matters, as real or not, as the existence of opposing bigots does not excuse other bigots.


So you are OK with the London train bombing, the Somali gangs in Minnesota, the riots in Paris, the increase in rapes due to immigrants, the 'no go zones' where real Europeans have to fear walking in?

Immigrants are committing crimes at higher levels than the normal population. Looking at the Europe news, it seems much of these immigrant crimes involves people from nations that would be on my 'do not welcome' list. If Somalians are so great, why are they not assimilating well in the culture? Why are Africans rioting in France? They are ungrateful and should be deported.

Yes, Somalians are Iraqis, and the other uncivilized immigrants will bring the country down to country Y's standards. Look at the immigrants in London with signs saying the nation will be Islamic and imams preaching hate. The goal is Eurabia.


The problem isn't the immigrants, its your liberal governments encouraging multiculturalism instead of assimilation.
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Postby The Steel Magnolia » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:20 pm

Disserbia wrote:
Neo Art wrote:OK, taking bets. I'm saying 14. Who's with me?

Because doing things like this are the epitome of maturity. :roll:


Did you READ what the guy said?

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Postby Disserbia » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:23 pm

The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Because doing things like this are the epitome of maturity. :roll:


Did you READ what the guy said?

Yes, but still. I mean really this whole thread is kinda...well...it just should not have happened and doesn't need to ever again.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:28 pm

Disserbia wrote:
The Steel Magnolia wrote:
Did you READ what the guy said?

Yes, but still. I mean really this whole thread is kinda...well...it just should not have happened and doesn't need to ever again.

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Postby Disserbia » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:49 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Disserbia wrote:Yes, but still. I mean really this whole thread is kinda...well...it just should not have happened and doesn't need to ever again.

NSG wouldn't be NSG if it didn't have numerous unproductive and circular arguments on Race, Captialism vs Socialism, Abortion, or Religion!!!

I'm a constructivist.
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Postby Rheinlander » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:54 pm

I don't see a problem with it.

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Postby Vazdania » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:55 pm

It's Free Speech. No matter how much we'd like to get rid of it, the right of people to speak freely should be protected.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:55 pm

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Zweite Alaje wrote:NSG wouldn't be NSG if it didn't have numerous unproductive and circular arguments on Race, Captialism vs Socialism, Abortion, or Religion!!!

I'm a constructivist.

I've never heard of that, excuse my ignorance.
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Postby Rheinlander » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:56 pm

I don't see the problem with being proud of your race and people.

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Postby Agymnum » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:57 pm

Rheinlander wrote:I don't see the problem with being proud of your race and people.


Supremacy implies your race is above all other races. That's where we have the issue.
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Postby Divair » Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:57 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Disserbia wrote:I'm a constructivist.

I've never heard of that, excuse my ignorance.

I imagine it's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructivism_(learning_theory)

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Zweite Alaje wrote:I've never heard of that, excuse my ignorance.

I imagine it's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructivism_(learning_theory)

That's interesting.
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Postby Disserbia » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:00 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Disserbia wrote:I'm a constructivist.

I've never heard of that, excuse my ignorance.

Because I'm lazy.

It's kind of a long way to go to get there anyway.
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Postby Rheinlander » Sun Apr 07, 2013 12:00 am

Agymnum wrote:
Rheinlander wrote:I don't see the problem with being proud of your race and people.


Supremacy implies your race is above all other races. That's where we have the issue.


Well if there wasn't evidence of this, why would there be millions of them?

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