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Is white supremacy wrong

1.It wrong "explain"
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2. its not "explain why"
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3. Other "Please explain"
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Postby Individual » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:42 am

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This might be a reason God made people with darker skin. It seems Arabs should have been made the darkest though due to the heavy sunlight. Maybe their clothing styles helped make their skin lighter over hundreds of years. Not sure why Somalis are much darker than Arab Sudanese despite similar weather though.

God works in mysterious ways it seems.

Can anybody tell me why God made Africans the darkest but kept Arabians fairly lighter skinned? Maybe we have a religious scholar in this forum.

Or maybe that's just how different breeds of homo sapiens evolved from homo erectus to survive in different conditions, eh?
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Postby Individual » Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:43 am

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I am going with 13 and then only because that is the minimum age allowed here.

Ten, because you can lie about your own age.
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Postby Fine Fellows » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:09 pm

Starkiller101 wrote:IS being a white sumpremist wrong Or is it free speech ( Us only) Express your opinion.
I think it wrong because there is no pure people any more. So white supremacy seems wrong. >:(

There has never been a 'pure people'.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:13 pm

Fine Fellows wrote:
Starkiller101 wrote:IS being a white sumpremist wrong Or is it free speech ( Us only) Express your opinion.
I think it wrong because there is no pure people any more. So white supremacy seems wrong. >:(

There has never been a 'pure people'.


Nonsense. I'm 100% person. FDA-approved.

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Postby Fine Fellows » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:15 pm

someone bribed the FDA agent, you are at least 5% preservative and 7% toxic sludge.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:16 pm

Fine Fellows wrote:someone bribed the FDA agent, you are at least 5% preservative and 7% toxic sludge.


I never said that I was organic.

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Postby Fine Fellows » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:20 pm

Probably made with horse meat anyway.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:21 pm

Fine Fellows wrote:Probably made with horse meat anyway.


My mom swore that that stallion was just a friend!

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Postby Uberman » Sat Apr 06, 2013 12:25 pm

It's ok. It's covered under free speech. Just like Black Supremacy, Mexican Supremacy and Great Souled Supremacy.
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Postby Augarundus » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:00 pm

Arumdaum wrote:And exactly what are the races? Can humans really even be accurate grouped as "races?" At what point did prehistoric Korean migrants to Japan become the Japanese? Considering it's an impossible to make and will be completely arbitrary, why can't I be my own race of a single person? Also after that, did they never interact or were they unable to procreate with each other? Do people think or do things a certain way simply because of their ancestry? Does someone possess inherently inferior qualities due to their ancestry?

Why should we be judging people based upon arbitrary and sort of impossible to make groupings instead of their individual selves?

Well, you are correct that races are arbitrary distinctions, they do point to certain differences amongst people. Not just skin color or facial features (each of which is individualized, with broad international gradients: these are insubstantial differences and categorizing "race" based upon them doesn't make sense, especially given how subjectively one would distinguish between skin colors).

But there are genetic differences between all individual persons. "Races" are still arbitrary, but these taxonomies help distinguish between persons scientifically based upon genetic differences. Certain individuals from various areas of the globe are predisposed to physical deformities or illnesses because of their genetic constitution - this is not a "product" of their race (that is, we shouldn't think of it that way), but a defining quality of their race (which should be properly re-conceptualized to refer to inherited traits).

The debate that I discussed (and one that I am not qualified to judge) is over whether or not intelligence in particular is contingent upon genetic inheritance. There is evidence that seems to substantiate this hypothesis (I've heard none to the contrary- simply because this isn't a debate I pay very much attention to-, but I am sure those arguments exist). Individuals who "come from a certain stock" (share certain genetic makeups) are more likely to have certain qualities: Northeast Asians and Ashkenazi Jews are, statistically speaking, the most intelligent "races" in the world, followed by Northern Europeans. Africans and Hispanics less so. Note that these are averages (in my experience, this hasn't held personally true, but these are statistical facts, at least from what I've read).

Establishing whether or not these are "racial" (genetic) qualities or the products of some other factors is difficult for me to say, because I am only an observer, not a scientist. But, if that is true, that seems to be the sort of thing that racial categories would be useful for (not stereotypical generalizations about things like intelligence, but understanding the genetic factors that constitute individual characteristics).

Less controversially (and more solidly established in fact, as far as I know) is the fact that blood types and compatibility are closely correlated with "race". That is, it may be medically dangerous for two individuals of different "races" to exchange blood types, even if they are A-O-B compatible (for a Sub Saharan African to receive the blood of a Native American, even if both are Type O negative, may be carry severe long-term health consequences). Hospitals (I have heard this from the blood bank of an American urban hospital, but I assume it is a widespread practice) tend to coordinate blood transfusions based on ethnicity as well as A-O-B compatibility.

Racial categories may be useful for that sort of thing as well. I don't know how/why one could/would make a categorical judgement like "whites are supreme!" though. I think it's reasonable to believe (but I don't know all the evidence) that the possibility of meaningful racial differences to exist, but I think it's unscientific to make value judgements about that sort of thing.
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Postby Divair » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:01 pm

Individual wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
This might be a reason God made people with darker skin. It seems Arabs should have been made the darkest though due to the heavy sunlight. Maybe their clothing styles helped make their skin lighter over hundreds of years. Not sure why Somalis are much darker than Arab Sudanese despite similar weather though.

God works in mysterious ways it seems.

Can anybody tell me why God made Africans the darkest but kept Arabians fairly lighter skinned? Maybe we have a religious scholar in this forum.

Or maybe that's just how different breeds of homo sapiens evolved from homo erectus to survive in different conditions, eh?

Pft, science? Who needs that?

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Postby Augarundus » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:04 pm

Starkiller101 wrote:I think it wrong because there is no pure people any more. So white supremacy seems wrong. >:(

This is one of the greatest OPs I've ever seen. This honestly should be the NAACP's mission statement.
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Postby Norstal » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:05 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Neo Art wrote:OK, taking bets. I'm saying 14. Who's with me?


I am going with 13 and then only because that is the minimum age allowed here.

I'm betting 13 as well.

But in dog years.
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Postby Norstal » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:09 pm

Alimprad wrote:
Ecans wrote:Nope, it's the past. You know...the one you are living in.

if it really is the past, then why does anyone vote ukip/bnp, or be racist?
lets look at this sensibly, slave trade+british empire= britians economy roaring, the whole world does trade with britian, everybody wins
now, hole world is civil rights lovefest= hole world in economic crisis, nobody has jobs, tons of benefits fraudsters, threat of nuclear war, yes, i see now, the world has defentily got better with the invention of civil rights :clap:
i think ur the one living in the past :palm:

Ok, so, what the hell is white? Belgian? Italian? British? French? Jews?
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:11 pm

Norstal wrote:
Alimprad wrote:if it really is the past, then why does anyone vote ukip/bnp, or be racist?
lets look at this sensibly, slave trade+british empire= britians economy roaring, the whole world does trade with britian, everybody wins
now, hole world is civil rights lovefest= hole world in economic crisis, nobody has jobs, tons of benefits fraudsters, threat of nuclear war, yes, i see now, the world has defentily got better with the invention of civil rights :clap:
i think ur the one living in the past :palm:

Ok, so, what the hell is white? Belgian? Italian? British? French? Jews?


We Jews are from the middle east so how in the world are we white? :p
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:13 pm

Individual wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
This might be a reason God made people with darker skin. It seems Arabs should have been made the darkest though due to the heavy sunlight. Maybe their clothing styles helped make their skin lighter over hundreds of years. Not sure why Somalis are much darker than Arab Sudanese despite similar weather though.

God works in mysterious ways it seems.

Can anybody tell me why God made Africans the darkest but kept Arabians fairly lighter skinned? Maybe we have a religious scholar in this forum.

Or maybe that's just how different breeds of homo sapiens evolved from homo erectus to survive in different conditions, eh?

I thought the muliti-regional hypothesis was supplanted by the out of Africa theory.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:18 pm

Alimprad wrote:
Ecans wrote:Nope, it's the past. You know...the one you are living in.

if it really is the past, then why does anyone vote ukip/bnp, or be racist?


Because they're stupendously ignorant of basic science? Just guessing.

lets look at this sensibly,


Let's look at it your way instead.

slave trade+british empire= britians economy roaring, the whole world does trade with britian, everybody wins


It never ceases to amuse me that British white supremacists tend not to be able to spell Britain.

Slavery makes no economic sense in addition to all the human rights violations.

now, hole world is civil rights lovefest= hole world in economic crisis,


And yet the world is more prosperous than in 1800.

nobody has jobs,


Apart from the people who do.

tons of benefits fraudsters,


In Britain, 0.8% of benefit claimants are fraudulent. Or, to put it another way, 99.2% of its users aren't fraudsters.

threat of nuclear war,


Not really, no.

yes, i see now, the world has defentily got better with the invention of civil rights :clap:
i think ur the one living in the past :palm:


I would suggest that you acquaint yourself with basic facts.

White supremacism has about as much credibility as Social Darwinism. Namely none.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:20 pm

Norstal wrote:
Alimprad wrote:if it really is the past, then why does anyone vote ukip/bnp, or be racist?
lets look at this sensibly, slave trade+british empire= britians economy roaring, the whole world does trade with britian, everybody wins
now, hole world is civil rights lovefest= hole world in economic crisis, nobody has jobs, tons of benefits fraudsters, threat of nuclear war, yes, i see now, the world has defentily got better with the invention of civil rights :clap:
i think ur the one living in the past :palm:

Ok, so, what the hell is white? Belgian? Italian? British? French? Jews?


Also just to point out, the British Empire was very strong in the 1880's and 1890's and the legal slave trade was long done by then. Slavery was not needed to keep the empire going.

Nuclear war was not caused due to civil rights issues. Seems racism caused nuclear war (Japan being anti-all other Asians and thinking they had the right for Pacific domination). Maybe if Japan and Germany left the other countries alone and national sovereignty was respected we would not have nuclear war.

Forgot to point out these 2 very minor holes in the post.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Apr 06, 2013 1:21 pm

Norstal wrote:
Alimprad wrote:if it really is the past, then why does anyone vote ukip/bnp, or be racist?
lets look at this sensibly, slave trade+british empire= britians economy roaring, the whole world does trade with britian, everybody wins
now, hole world is civil rights lovefest= hole world in economic crisis, nobody has jobs, tons of benefits fraudsters, threat of nuclear war, yes, i see now, the world has defentily got better with the invention of civil rights :clap:
i think ur the one living in the past :palm:

Ok, so, what the hell is white? Belgian? Italian? British? French? Jews?

It's the absence of pigments, when all light; red, green and blue is reflected, which no one save for the undead and those with makeup have.
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Postby Agymnum » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:17 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Norstal wrote:Ok, so, what the hell is white? Belgian? Italian? British? French? Jews?


Also just to point out, the British Empire was very strong in the 1880's and 1890's and the legal slave trade was long done by then. Slavery was not needed to keep the empire going.

Nuclear war was not caused due to civil rights issues. Seems racism caused nuclear war (Japan being anti-all other Asians and thinking they had the right for Pacific domination). Maybe if Japan and Germany left the other countries alone and national sovereignty was respected we would not have nuclear war.

Forgot to point out these 2 very minor holes in the post.


The US did not have to nuke Japan. They were close to surrendering. Our choice to nuke them was to speed up the surrender and to demonstrate our power to the Soviet Union, whom we were rapidly breaking ties with as the war drew to a close and the Cold War began.

The nuking of Japan by the US - especially since the US nuked civilians - is clearly an atrocity that for some reason people celebrate despite it being an event which will live as a tragedy in Japanese history for years to come.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:19 pm

Agymnum wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Also just to point out, the British Empire was very strong in the 1880's and 1890's and the legal slave trade was long done by then. Slavery was not needed to keep the empire going.

Nuclear war was not caused due to civil rights issues. Seems racism caused nuclear war (Japan being anti-all other Asians and thinking they had the right for Pacific domination). Maybe if Japan and Germany left the other countries alone and national sovereignty was respected we would not have nuclear war.

Forgot to point out these 2 very minor holes in the post.


The US did not have to nuke Japan. They were close to surrendering. Our choice to nuke them was to speed up the surrender and to demonstrate our power to the Soviet Union, whom we were rapidly breaking ties with as the war drew to a close and the Cold War began.

The nuking of Japan by the US - especially since the US nuked civilians - is clearly an atrocity that for some reason people celebrate despite it being an event which will live as a tragedy in Japanese history for years to come.

What sick person celebrates those bombings? Countries celebrate victory over Japan day, they celebrate that war crime too?
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Postby Disserbia » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:21 pm

I think people have the right to hold those opinions, but they are wrong in mine and in general.
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Postby Agymnum » Sat Apr 06, 2013 4:21 pm

Chinese Regions wrote:What sick person celebrates those bombings? Countries celebrate victory over Japan day, they celebrate that war crime too?


People take pride in the fact that the US ended the war with minimal US bloodshed by using the atomic bomb.

They seem to forget that the war would've ended anyways with minimal bloodshed seeing as we had bombers within range of mainland Japan and were starving them out.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:00 pm

Agymnum wrote:
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Also just to point out, the British Empire was very strong in the 1880's and 1890's and the legal slave trade was long done by then. Slavery was not needed to keep the empire going.

Nuclear war was not caused due to civil rights issues. Seems racism caused nuclear war (Japan being anti-all other Asians and thinking they had the right for Pacific domination). Maybe if Japan and Germany left the other countries alone and national sovereignty was respected we would not have nuclear war.

Forgot to point out these 2 very minor holes in the post.


The US did not have to nuke Japan. They were close to surrendering. Our choice to nuke them was to speed up the surrender and to demonstrate our power to the Soviet Union, whom we were rapidly breaking ties with as the war drew to a close and the Cold War began.

The nuking of Japan by the US - especially since the US nuked civilians - is clearly an atrocity that for some reason people celebrate despite it being an event which will live as a tragedy in Japanese history for years to come.


They deserved it. They felt no shame for the Rape of Nanjing, the Bataan Death March, the prison experiment camps in China (similar to the Nazi experiment camps) or their other various war crimes. The people kept Hirohito in power for 44 years after the war until he died. They still celebrate Hirohito's birthday 68 years after the war during Japan's Golden Week.

No, the people needed to get revenge for the suffering they caused. They still haven't learned their lessons. They have a superiority complex (and many are racist but this is forgotten by white liberals because no non-whites can be racist).
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Postby Agymnum » Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:03 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:They deserved it. They felt no shame for the Rape of Nanjing, the Bataan Death March, the prison experiment camps in China (similar to the Nazi experiment camps) or their other various war crimes. The people kept Hirohito in power for 44 years after the war until he died. They still celebrate Hirohito's birthday 68 years after the war during Japan's Golden Week.

No, the people needed to get revenge for the suffering they caused. They still haven't learned their lessons. They have a superiority complex (and many are racist but this is forgotten by white liberals because no non-whites can be racist).


Saying they deserved it and that revenge is something you should give your opponents is indicative of a childish, immature manner. This is the reason we do not elect the youth to the office of president - because when they demonstrate behavior like this they are clearly unready for it.

We should not forget the atrocities the Japanese committed, but neither should we justify these atrocities by committing our own. If someone murders a person in my family, I am not justified in murdering that person because that's not how justice works. You do not stoop to the level of your offender, because then you become an equal offender in and of yourself.
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