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Is white supremacy wrong

1.It wrong "explain"
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2. its not "explain why"
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3. Other "Please explain"
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The Oan Isles
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Postby The Oan Isles » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:27 am

"White supremacy indicates the level of white stupidity. In general especially in the country I live in white people have crooked teeth and yellow teeth, always in need of a pair of glasses, they look like they don't bathe nor use lotion, they are not stylish and their stupid love of controversy and clear lack of intelligence, pornographic addiction, attention seeking slutty behaviour often makes me ask why whites even bothered thinking they were human when all the other races are far better." - Danny Amay, Black Specialist Commentator from South Africa.
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Postby Kington Langley » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:29 am

The idea that you are supreme because your skin has a lower density of eumelanin pigments is utterly barbaric. If anything us white people are genetically inferior as we don't have as much natural protection from the sun compared to people with darker skin tones.
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Postby Esternial » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:41 am

Kington Langley wrote:The idea that you are supreme because your skin has a lower density of eumelanin pigments is utterly barbaric. If anything us white people are genetically inferior as we don't have as much natural protection from the sun compared to people with darker skin tones.

Umm, actually having a darker skin tone is bad if you live in countries with low amount of sunlight because your uptake of vitamin D is decreased.

Dark skin tones are useful in areas with a lot of sun. White skin tones are good in areas with less sun.
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Postby Ecans » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:43 am

The Oan Isles wrote:"White supremacy indicates the level of white stupidity. In general especially in the country I live in white people have crooked teeth and yellow teeth, always in need of a pair of glasses, they look like they don't bathe nor use lotion, they are not stylish and their stupid love of controversy and clear lack of intelligence, pornographic addiction, attention seeking slutty behaviour often makes me ask why whites even bothered thinking they were human when all the other races are far better." - Danny Amay, Black Specialist Commentator from South Africa.

A wonderful example of racist bullshit. Unless you are joking? Trolling?
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:45 am

Esternial wrote:
Kington Langley wrote:The idea that you are supreme because your skin has a lower density of eumelanin pigments is utterly barbaric. If anything us white people are genetically inferior as we don't have as much natural protection from the sun compared to people with darker skin tones.

Umm, actually having a darker skin tone is bad if you live in countries with low amount of sunlight because your uptake of vitamin D is decreased.

Dark skin tones are useful in areas with a lot of sun. White skin tones are good in areas with less sun.

The day weather predictions are correct is the day racism ends.
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Postby Volnotova » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:46 am

Wrong? (In a fundamental ethical universalist/moral absolutist sense of the word) No.

Misguided? Often so.
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Postby Alimprad » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:51 am

WHITE SUPREMACY IS THE FUTURE! :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby Ecans » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:54 am

Alimprad wrote:WHITE SUPREMACY IS THE FUTURE! :twisted: :twisted:

Nope, it's the past. You know...the one you are living in.
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Postby Alimprad » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:57 am

Kington Langley wrote:The idea that you are supreme because your skin has a lower density of eumelanin pigments is utterly barbaric. If anything us white people are genetically inferior as we don't have as much natural protection from the sun compared to people with darker skin tones.

well, i can tell u dont understand how evolution works, but i wont go in to that. its not the fact that there skin is a different colour, its the fact the black people are inferior, not because there black, its just that being black is a sign of being inferior, for example, if a person is wearing glasses, they are probably short/long sighted, not because they wear glasses but the glasses is a sign of it.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:59 am

Alimprad wrote:WHITE SUPREMACY IS THE FUTURE! :twisted: :twisted:

The future of what? A prison cell?
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Postby Esternial » Sat Apr 06, 2013 7:59 am

Alimprad wrote:
Kington Langley wrote:The idea that you are supreme because your skin has a lower density of eumelanin pigments is utterly barbaric. If anything us white people are genetically inferior as we don't have as much natural protection from the sun compared to people with darker skin tones.

well, i can tell u dont understand how evolution works, but i wont go in to that. its not the fact that there skin is a different colour, its the fact the black people are inferior, not because there black, its just that being black is a sign of being inferior, for example, if a person is wearing glasses, they are probably short/long sighted, not because they wear glasses but the glasses is a sign of it.

Clearly neither do you get how evolution works.

Nor does it seem you've had a class on it either. Stay in school just a little longer, lad.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:00 am

Alimprad wrote:
Kington Langley wrote:The idea that you are supreme because your skin has a lower density of eumelanin pigments is utterly barbaric. If anything us white people are genetically inferior as we don't have as much natural protection from the sun compared to people with darker skin tones.

well, i can tell u dont understand how evolution works, but i wont go in to that. its not the fact that there skin is a different colour, its the fact the black people are inferior, not because there black, its just that being black is a sign of being inferior, for example, if a person is wearing glasses, they are probably short/long sighted, not because they wear glasses but the glasses is a sign of it.

How does evolution work?
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Postby Ecans » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:15 am

Desperate Measures wrote:
Alimprad wrote:well, i can tell u dont understand how evolution works, but i wont go in to that. its not the fact that there skin is a different colour, its the fact the black people are inferior, not because there black, its just that being black is a sign of being inferior, for example, if a person is wearing glasses, they are probably short/long sighted, not because they wear glasses but the glasses is a sign of it.

How does evolution work?

Judging by some members of the Human Race, badly.
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Postby Neo Art » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:16 am

Ecans wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:How does evolution work?

Judging by some members of the Human Race, badly.


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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:19 am

Alimprad wrote:
Kington Langley wrote:The idea that you are supreme because your skin has a lower density of eumelanin pigments is utterly barbaric. If anything us white people are genetically inferior as we don't have as much natural protection from the sun compared to people with darker skin tones.

well, i can tell u dont understand how evolution works, but i wont go in to that. its not the fact that there skin is a different colour, its the fact the black people are inferior, not because there black, its just that being black is a sign of being inferior, for example, if a person is wearing glasses, they are probably short/long sighted, not because they wear glasses but the glasses is a sign of it.

No you need to understand how evolution works, go back to biology class (and English too, good lord, it is hideous).
Toleration to less bright sunlight is the ONLY difference, and it is so small and minuscule a difference.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:20 am

Alimprad wrote:WHITE SUPREMACY IS THE FUTURE! :twisted: :twisted:

Said Uncle Ruckus.
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Postby Tahar Joblis » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:30 am

Desperate Measures wrote:
Alimprad wrote:well, i can tell u dont understand how evolution works, but i wont go in to that. its not the fact that there skin is a different colour, its the fact the black people are inferior, not because there black, its just that being black is a sign of being inferior, for example, if a person is wearing glasses, they are probably short/long sighted, not because they wear glasses but the glasses is a sign of it.

How does evolution work?

Evolutionary dynamics are perfectly compatible with a grounding for racism, in principle; after all, it describes ways in which populations can become differentiated. You can have a trait become an indicator of inferiority without being directly caused or causing inferiority.

That said, the genetic diversity of humanity is remarkably low; and while your continent of origin is a major factor in determining some genetic patterns, e.g., see here, even that difference tends to get washed out when we're talking about "black" and "white" Americans, who each respectively tend to have non-trivial shares of European and African ancestries. Evolutionary dynamics could support significant racial differences, but the evidence for it having done so is generally slender.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:34 am

Tahar Joblis wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:How does evolution work?

Evolutionary dynamics are perfectly compatible with systematic racism; after all, it describes ways in which populations can become differentiated. You can have a trait become an indicator of inferiority without being directly caused or causing inferiority.

That said, the genetic diversity of humanity is remarkably low; and while your continent of origin is a major factor in determining some genetic patterns, e.g., see here, even that difference tends to get washed out when we're talking about "black" and "white" Americans, who each respectively tend to have non-trivial shares of European and African ancestries. Evolutionary dynamics could support significant racial differences, but the evidence for it having done so is generally slender.


Social Darwinism? Really?

And I am not entirely sure whether that's meant to be an approval of racism or a dismissal of it.

What you just said is exactly the architect idea of racism that came out of the Enlightenment.
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Postby Ecans » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:35 am

Tahar Joblis wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:How does evolution work?

Evolutionary dynamics are perfectly compatible with a grounding for racism, in principle; after all, it describes ways in which populations can become differentiated. You can have a trait become an indicator of inferiority without being directly caused or causing inferiority.

That said, the genetic diversity of humanity is remarkably low; and while your continent of origin is a major factor in determining some genetic patterns, e.g., see here, even that difference tends to get washed out when we're talking about "black" and "white" Americans, who each respectively tend to have non-trivial shares of European and African ancestries. Evolutionary dynamics could support significant racial differences, but the evidence for it having done so is generally slender.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:39 am

Neo Art wrote:
Ecans wrote:Judging by some members of the Human Race, badly.


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Postby Tahar Joblis » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:39 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:Social Darwinism? Really?

And I am not entirely sure whether that's meant to be an approval of racism or a dismissal of it.

What you just said is exactly the architect idea of racism that came out of the Enlightenment.

It's a dismissal. It's also not related to Social Darwinism, which is applying evolutionary dynamics to social processes, usually very badly, in order to justify class differences.

Like the idea that evolutionary processes provided a solid grounding for treating dark-skinned people as inferior beings, it was most popular around a century ago.

The Enlightenment method of thinking, which is to say, really, scientific thinking, can in principle be used to support any belief about the world, and is the right method of supporting beliefs about the world.

That it fails in practice to support ideas such as "black people are less evolved" is a reason for dismissing those ideas. The more carefully we control our experiments, the more we can explain the differences by reference to environmental [social] factors, rather than appealing to genetic differences.

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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:40 am

Here we go again :palm:
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Postby Neo Art » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:43 am

Ecans wrote:
Tahar Joblis wrote:Evolutionary dynamics are perfectly compatible with a grounding for racism, in principle; after all, it describes ways in which populations can become differentiated. You can have a trait become an indicator of inferiority without being directly caused or causing inferiority.

That said, the genetic diversity of humanity is remarkably low; and while your continent of origin is a major factor in determining some genetic patterns, e.g., see here, even that difference tends to get washed out when we're talking about "black" and "white" Americans, who each respectively tend to have non-trivial shares of European and African ancestries. Evolutionary dynamics could support significant racial differences, but the evidence for it having done so is generally slender.

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Postby Desperate Measures » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:43 am

Tahar Joblis wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:How does evolution work?

Evolutionary dynamics are perfectly compatible with a grounding for racism, in principle; after all, it describes ways in which populations can become differentiated. You can have a trait become an indicator of inferiority without being directly caused or causing inferiority.

That said, the genetic diversity of humanity is remarkably low; and while your continent of origin is a major factor in determining some genetic patterns, e.g., see here, even that difference tends to get washed out when we're talking about "black" and "white" Americans, who each respectively tend to have non-trivial shares of European and African ancestries. Evolutionary dynamics could support significant racial differences, but the evidence for it having done so is generally slender.

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Postby Neo Art » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:43 am

Cosara wrote:Here we go again :palm:


I'm beginning to wonder if you're actually capable of saying something worthwhile.
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