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by Vietnam » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:34 am

by New haven america » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:36 am
Vietnam wrote:New haven america wrote:Well white people in the US are now the minority 49%
No, 72.4%, actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans

by New haven america » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:39 am

by Avenio » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:07 am
New haven america wrote:Well white people in the US are now the minority 49%
Nazi Flower Power wrote:Wut?
Humans evolving from a common ancestor in Africa doesn't support or refute any form of racial supremacist thought. I have no idea why that fact is recited so often in these race threads. Having a common ancestor at one point in our history does not make it impossible for meaningful divisions to evolve later. If -- hypothetically for the sake of argument -- there was a meaningful difference between the races, knowing where the human species originated would not tell us anything about the relationship between races.

by Mkuki » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:16 am
Avenio wrote:New haven america wrote:Well white people in the US are now the minority 49%
Actually, humans in the US are outnumbered 6-to-1 by beetles.Nazi Flower Power wrote:Wut?
Humans evolving from a common ancestor in Africa doesn't support or refute any form of racial supremacist thought. I have no idea why that fact is recited so often in these race threads. Having a common ancestor at one point in our history does not make it impossible for meaningful divisions to evolve later. If -- hypothetically for the sake of argument -- there was a meaningful difference between the races, knowing where the human species originated would not tell us anything about the relationship between races.
I would argue otherwise. A recent African origin for modern homo sapiens means that there is very, very little evolutionary time available for the differences between the 'races' to emerge. What's moreso, the distribution patterns associated with a recent African origin and subsequent colonization means that humankind was one contiguous and interbreeding population until the Late Glacial Maximum, meaning that said available time is reduced almost down to the last 10 000 years.
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.

by Farnhamia » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:21 am
Mkuki wrote:Avenio wrote:
Actually, humans in the US are outnumbered 6-to-1 by beetles.
I would argue otherwise. A recent African origin for modern homo sapiens means that there is very, very little evolutionary time available for the differences between the 'races' to emerge. What's moreso, the distribution patterns associated with a recent African origin and subsequent colonization means that humankind was one contiguous and interbreeding population until the Late Glacial Maximum, meaning that said available time is reduced almost down to the last 10 000 years.
It may mean nothing, but after 8,000 BC farming and the formation of settlements began to occur in Mesopotamia, South Asia, East Asia and Egypt.

by Mkuki » Sun Apr 14, 2013 2:24 am
John Rawls wrote:In justice as fairness, the concept of right is prior to that of the good.

by Desperate Measures » Sun Apr 14, 2013 5:47 am
Diopolis wrote:Desperate Measures wrote:Just because someone has a right to say something doesn't mean I shouldn't do my best to shut them up about it.
I don't support freedom of speech, but if freedom of speech is applied in general, then it is hypocritical to attempt to suppress groups that one does not believe in.

by Wikkiwallana » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:14 am
Agymnum wrote:Slovenya wrote:White supremacy is wrong, I'm sure most can agree with this, however White Pride isn't. I'm proud to be white, but I don't think white people are superior to any other race.
Pride is never wrong. Asian Pride, Black Pride, White Pride, etc. are all wonderful things.
Supremacy is the problem. Supremacy is what oppresses people and hurts others.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

by Wikkiwallana » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:21 am
The New Sea Territory wrote:Agymnum wrote:
You understand that the only valid human origin theory is the theory of evolution, right?
That's like the only scientifically-accepted theory, and thus the only theory you can use when debating politics and social issues since it's the only one with empirical proof.
Yes but billions support religion. Who do we listen to: a select few or the masses? Oh, I thought you were a leftist. Don't you like the masses?
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

by Slovenya » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:24 am
Wikkiwallana wrote:Still, skin color pride is rather silly, since none of them are unified groups…

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by Wikkiwallana » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:27 am
Slovenya wrote:Wikkiwallana wrote:Still, skin color pride is rather silly, since none of them are unified groups…
you can call it silly, and I can also call it silly to see people proud of their sports team or proud to be cat owners or something along those lines. It's just something people feel proud about; not silly in my opinion
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.

by Baltenstein » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:47 am
Pride is never wrong. Asian Pride, Black Pride, White Pride, etc. are all wonderful things.
Supremacy is the problem. Supremacy is what oppresses people and hurts others.

by The Marxist State » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:56 am
New haven america wrote:Well white people in the US are now the minority 49%

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