White supremacy

[Agymnum]

Well, my issue is that people who preach white pride tend to also preach the idea that all other races are inferior. The two aren't intertwined ideas, but they're often closely associated.

oh definitely. They put shame on the white race, but, back to the topic, I would support safeguarding their right to preach whatever it is they wish. Just like the radical New Black Panther Party spewing their hate; I would defend their right to speak their mind (even though I don't agree with them).

There's a new one? I thought the old one was alright, what with their whole "free breakfast for children" program and socialist ideas.

What's the new one preaching?

[Slovenya]

There's a new one? I thought the old one was alright, what with their whole "free breakfast for children" program and socialist ideas.

What's the new one preaching?

yup, the new one is quite radical. They don't allow white participation, and in one video a senior member, through a megaphone is saying "kill some crackers, and kill some of their babies"

it's on youtube

[Agymnum]

There's a new one? I thought the old one was alright, what with their whole "free breakfast for children" program and socialist ideas.

What's the new one preaching?

yup, the new one is quite radical. They don't allow white participation, and in one video a senior member, through a megaphone is saying "kill some crackers, and kill some of their babies"

So, basically "Black Panther" minus everything that made the old Black Panthers respectable?

[Grismoria]

It's okay to be proud of one's race, BUT it is not okay to say one's race is superior to others and they [other races] are therefore subservient.

[Agymnum]

It's okay to be proud of one's race, BUT it is not okay to say one's race is superior to others and they [other races] are therefore subservient.

Well it's okay to say it under freedom of speech.

It's just not okay to actually mean it and consider it a valid ideology, because it's ludicrous.

[The Marxist State]

So, basically "Black Panther" minus everything that made the old Black Panthers respectable?

If they're webpage is any indicator, yes.

Most of the respectable ideas of the original Black Panthers can be found in the ranks of the NAACP.

[Slovenya]

So, basically "Black Panther" minus everything that made the old Black Panthers respectable?

I dont know too much about the old black panthers, only that they had social programs for the black community...and that unfortunately through drugs and the FBI/CIA were broken up...end result they established themselves into small gangs (bloods/crips etc). According to a documentary i once saw

[New haven america]

Racism is shit*nods*

[The Revolutionary Fighters of Intel]

“Watch your thoughts for they become words.
Watch your words for they become actions.
Watch your actions for they become habits.
Watch your habits for they become your character.
And watch your character for it becomes your destiny.
What we think, we become."- Margaret Thatcher

[Vietnam]

It's okay to be proud of one's race, BUT it is not okay to say one's race is superior to others and they [other races] are therefore subservient.

What is race?

[Agymnum]

So, basically "Black Panther" minus everything that made the old Black Panthers respectable?

I dont know too much about the old black panthers, only that they had social programs for the black community...and that unfortunately through drugs and the FBI/CIA were broken up...end result they established themselves into small gangs (bloods/crips etc). According to a documentary i once saw

They condemned black nationalism and black supremacy as dividing lines which weakened their socialist message, and pushed for integration as well as racial equality. They eventually disbanded out of both drug issues (probably on a local level, as I doubt they ever really endorsed drug dealing) and because the FBI/CIA saw the word "socialist" in their mission statements and went OMG COMMIE PINK SHITS! MUST KILL!

Basically, think of MLK but with a "slap 'em back" instead of "turn the other cheek when slapped" mentality when it came to dealing with racism and discrimination.

[Slovenya]

They condemned black nationalism and black supremacy as dividing lines which weakened their socialist message, and pushed for integration as well as racial equality. They eventually disbanded out of both drug issues (probably on a local level, as I doubt they ever really endorsed drug dealing) and because the FBI/CIA saw the word "socialist" in their mission statements and went OMG COMMIE PINK SHITS! MUST KILL!

Basically, think of MLK but with a "slap 'em back" instead of "turn the other cheek when slapped" mentality when it came to dealing with racism and discrimination.

that's better put than what I had said lol. Additionally, the NOI (nation of islam) had the same mentality, but they are also garbage today

[Slovenya]

What is race?

let me guess...you're going to argue social construct, that there is not such thing as race?

[Agymnum]

What is race?

let me guess...you're going to argue social construct, that there is not such thing as race?

It's a valid belief. Race is based on culture and appearance, so if we were to just acknowledge cultural and physical differences without attempting to compartmentalize them with "race" we'd be a whole lot better off.

The issue is that the human mind likes to compartmentalize things, so when it sees a group of people with similar cultures, skin colors, appearances/features, and traditions it labels them as a group, which we call "race".

[Slovenya]

It's a valid belief. Race is based on culture and appearance, so if we were to just acknowledge cultural and physical differences without attempting to compartmentalize them with "race" we'd be a whole lot better off.

The issue is that the human mind likes to compartmentalize things, so when it sees a group of people with similar cultures, skin colors, appearances/features, and traditions it labels them as a group, which we call "race".

I agree to an extent. We can infinitely argue how time doesn't exist either. Fact of the matter is, we've created race, and therefore, it exists to us

[Vietnam]

What is race?

let me guess...you're going to argue social construct, that there is not such thing as race?

Well, pretty much. If you believe the opposite, then why?

[Slovenya]

Well, pretty much. If you believe the opposite, then why?

We can also go a bit further to add the physical differences in some races as compared to others. Facial features for example. Some races have developed longer noses to warm colder air as it passes through the nostrils for example. So there are races. Some African people are better physically protected against some types of diseases.

[Agymnum]

It's a valid belief. Race is based on culture and appearance, so if we were to just acknowledge cultural and physical differences without attempting to compartmentalize them with "race" we'd be a whole lot better off.

The issue is that the human mind likes to compartmentalize things, so when it sees a group of people with similar cultures, skin colors, appearances/features, and traditions it labels them as a group, which we call "race".

I agree to an extent. We can infinitely argue how time doesn't exist either. Fact of the matter is, we've created race, and therefore, it exists to us

The reason a lot of people argue about the existence of race is similar to why people argued about the existence of racial segregation.

We created racial segregation in the US to divide whites and blacks. It existed, despite the fact that it had no real logical reason to exist.

And then, one day, people began to question the validity of racial segregation and, lo and behold, today it has ceased to exist in the United States.

[Vietnam]

Well, pretty much. If you believe the opposite, then why?

We can also go a bit further to add the physical differences in some races as compared to others. Facial features for example. Some races have developed longer noses to warm colder air as it passes through the nostrils for example. So there are races. Some African people are better physically protected against some types of diseases.

But at what point do people become a race? Why can't my family be its own race, or why can't I be my own race? Does everyone of a certain "race" have longer noses, or are all of that certain African ethnic group better protected against that type of disease?

What races are there even?

At what point did migrants from the Korean peninsula become the Japanese race? And due to the frequent intermixing of peoples, how different do peoples have to be to be considered separated races?

[Slovenya]

The reason a lot of people argue about the existence of race is similar to why people argued about the existence of racial segregation.
We created racial segregation in the US to divide whites and blacks. It existed, despite the fact that it had no real logical reason to exist.

And then, one day, people began to question the validity of racial segregation and, lo and behold, today it has ceased to exist in the United States.

I mean there are things that exist that can be used to harm people of course. I believe in different races, but to think one is better than another is plain dumb.

[Agymnum]

The reason a lot of people argue about the existence of race is similar to why people argued about the existence of racial segregation.
We created racial segregation in the US to divide whites and blacks. It existed, despite the fact that it had no real logical reason to exist.

And then, one day, people began to question the validity of racial segregation and, lo and behold, today it has ceased to exist in the United States.

I mean there are things that exist that can be used to harm people of course. I believe in different races, but to think one is better than another is plain dumb.

The issue is that as long as different races continue to exist, people will continue to debate which one is superior.

It's much like ice cream. As long as there is more than one available flavor, people will debate on whether one is better than the other.

Except ice cream doesn't hurt people (unless you're lactose intolerant) and race indirectly hurts people by promoting division where there should be unity.

[Slovenya]

But at what point do people become a race? Why can't my family be its own race, or why can't I be my own race? Does everyone of a certain "race" have longer noses, or are all of that certain African ethnic group better protected against that type of disease?

What races are there even?

At what point did migrants from the Korean peninsula becomes the Japanese race? And due to the frequent intermixing of peoples, how different do peoples have to be to be considered separated races?

Well when you mix races this creates stronger genetics, at least from what I have heard. So the separation of races is in the differences. You have baby blue, and you have navy blue, two of the same color that are actually different colors (ok maybe not the best example lol)
Koreans and Japanese, I think, are the same race, just different nationalities.

[Slovenya]

The issue is that as long as different races continue to exist, people will continue to debate which one is superior.

It's much like ice cream. As long as there is more than one available flavor, people will debate on whether one is better than the other.

Except ice cream doesn't hurt people (unless you're lactose intolerant) and race indirectly hurts people by promoting division where there should be unity.

lol @ icecream comment.

People like differences, it's why we debate about which sports team is better than the other. When i was younger I would argue that white people are better, and joke about it with my friends in school. It can be fun if you're not actually being serious.

[Vietnam]

But at what point do people become a race? Why can't my family be its own race, or why can't I be my own race? Does everyone of a certain "race" have longer noses, or are all of that certain African ethnic group better protected against that type of disease?

What races are there even?

At what point did migrants from the Korean peninsula becomes the Japanese race? And due to the frequent intermixing of peoples, how different do peoples have to be to be considered separated races?

Well when you mix races this creates stronger genetics, at least from what I have heard.

ummm wut not relevant

Maybe what you're looking for is that genetic diversity is good? However, that's not relevant to what I've asked at all. Try answering what I'm actually asking.

So the separation of races is in the differences. You have baby blue, and you have navy blue, two of the same color that are actually different colors (ok maybe not the best example lol)

So if I had baby blue eyes and my sister had navy blue eyes, we'd be of different races? Coolio.

Koreans and Japanese, I think, are the same race, just different nationalities.

When did the migrants from Africa become Koreans and Japanese then? :3

[Slovenya]

I'm too tired to think right now actually. But obvious differences is where i was getting at. Most people in Indonesia dont look like people in Japan. Most people in Ethiopia dont look like people in Gabon etc.