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Is white supremacy wrong

1.It wrong "explain"
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2. its not "explain why"
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3. Other "Please explain"
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:11 pm

Alimprad wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:And when all men are equal, there will be no success.

BURN!

I suppose it would be, if it commented at all upon my statement.
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Postby Avenio » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:19 pm

Lamassu wrote:I believe in White Supremacy, but I'm not going to go out and kill a whole bunch of minorities and breach 14/88 while I do it. There are peaceful ways to conduct supremacist beliefs, like the living room of your house or in organized, permitted protests and assemblies.


Ah, another member of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists, eh?

I suppose in your case it would be the SS-Kämpfenschreibkräfte, though.
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:23 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Alimprad wrote:BURN!

I suppose it would be, if it commented at all upon my statement.

It does. You said there can be no peace when men hold themselves above others. I said, if no one did that (with everybody being equal), then there would be no success in the world.

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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:25 pm

Avenio wrote:
Lamassu wrote:I believe in White Supremacy, but I'm not going to go out and kill a whole bunch of minorities and breach 14/88 while I do it. There are peaceful ways to conduct supremacist beliefs, like the living room of your house or in organized, permitted protests and assemblies.


Ah, another member of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists, eh?

I suppose in your case it would be the SS-Kämpfenschreibkräfte, though.

Hahaha. :P

Ah...the internet Nazis amuse me...and make my great-grandfather roll over in his grave.

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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:26 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:I suppose it would be, if it commented at all upon my statement.

It does. You said there can be no peace when men hold themselves above others. I said, if no one did that (with everybody being equal), then there would be no success in the world.

Our statements relate to different things. I am talking about people holding themselves as intrinsically superior to others. I thought that was clear from the context.
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:56 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:It does. You said there can be no peace when men hold themselves above others. I said, if no one did that (with everybody being equal), then there would be no success in the world.

Our statements relate to different things. I am talking about people holding themselves as intrinsically superior to others. I thought that was clear from the context.

Forgive me, they are on similar enough notes for my brain to mush them together.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:36 am

Alimprad wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
The belief may be wrong unless you have statistics to back you up. Actually east Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have the most right to supremist attitudes because they have the highest IQ scores of all the races ('The Bell Curve' book has extensive data regarding race and IQs) and nationality is more accurate then color.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Bell_Curve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the ... of_Nations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality

IQ rates are falling also due to higher birth rates in nations with lower IQs:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/

so according to that white people are superior to africans :palm: , intelligence isnt the only factor in life :palm:


In fairness the authors of 'The Bell Curve' said data must be taken with caution. He didn't want his data used by hate groups but he did mention it should be used for govt. policy (such as less welfare to discourage poor people with lower IQ from having children). We must remember these are AVERAGES and there are plenty of highly intelligent black people including this man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams

http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/

And of course there are plenty of retarded white gentlemen as well, including this gentleman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx

Just kidding, he likely had high IQ but of course caused more suffering than most low IQ retarded people out there. Yes, high IQ is just one factor. However, read 'The Bell Curve' (dry in parts but an important book) to find out why IQ is such an important measurement for society.

This is one reason you may notice in my posts I always support increased immigration from east Asian nations (and not just because the women are prettier there). I believe middle class and wealthy educated East Asians can make America stronger and bring it up (same for Ashkenazi Jews but there aren't many). Sub-Saharan farmers will not help and besides if we need poor people we have Latin America next door. The average Mexican is smarter and will fit in better with American culture than the average man from Congo.
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Postby Pillea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:11 am

Hathradic States wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:So long as any man raises himself above another, there can be no peace.

And when all men are equal, there will be no success.


Any YMCA sports team/children's organization would disagree with you, they're pretty adamant about the "everyone gets a trophy" policy.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:20 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:In fairness the authors of 'The Bell Curve' said data must be taken with caution. He didn't want his data used by hate groups but he did mention it should be used for govt. policy (such as less welfare to discourage poor people with lower IQ from having children). We must remember these are AVERAGES and there are plenty of highly intelligent black people including this man:


Again peer review. It doesn't matter what hate groups think.

You have to question the claims and give it a :eyebrow: if the author doesn't want it reviewed but thinks the government should use it.
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:21 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Alimprad wrote:so according to that white people are superior to africans :palm: , intelligence isnt the only factor in life :palm:


In fairness the authors of 'The Bell Curve' said data must be taken with caution. He didn't want his data used by hate groups but he did mention it should be used for govt. policy (such as less welfare to discourage poor people with lower IQ from having children). We must remember these are AVERAGES and there are plenty of highly intelligent black people including this man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams

http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/

And of course there are plenty of retarded white gentlemen as well, including this gentleman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx

Just kidding, he likely had high IQ but of course caused more suffering than most low IQ retarded people out there. Yes, high IQ is just one factor. However, read 'The Bell Curve' (dry in parts but an important book) to find out why IQ is such an important measurement for society.

This is one reason you may notice in my posts I always support increased immigration from east Asian nations (and not just because the women are prettier there). I believe middle class and wealthy educated East Asians can make America stronger and bring it up (same for Ashkenazi Jews but there aren't many). Sub-Saharan farmers will not help and besides if we need poor people we have Latin America next door. The average Mexican is smarter and will fit in better with American culture than the average man from Congo.

Minnesota would very much like it if you would dissociate yourself with them.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:57 am

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:


In fairness the authors of 'The Bell Curve' said data must be taken with caution. He didn't want his data used by hate groups but he did mention it should be used for govt. policy (such as less welfare to discourage poor people with lower IQ from having children). We must remember these are AVERAGES and there are plenty of highly intelligent black people including this man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams

http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/

And of course there are plenty of retarded white gentlemen as well, including this gentleman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx

Just kidding, he likely had high IQ but of course caused more suffering than most low IQ retarded people out there. Yes, high IQ is just one factor. However, read 'The Bell Curve' (dry in parts but an important book) to find out why IQ is such an important measurement for society.

This is one reason you may notice in my posts I always support increased immigration from east Asian nations (and not just because the women are prettier there). I believe middle class and wealthy educated East Asians can make America stronger and bring it up (same for Ashkenazi Jews but there aren't many). Sub-Saharan farmers will not help and besides if we need poor people we have Latin America next door. The average Mexican is smarter and will fit in better with American culture than the average man from Congo.

Minnesota would very much like it if you would dissociate yourself with them.


People hate when data goes against what they think and believe. They hate it when facts stare at them in the face.
You want to believe all nations are equal and we are one big happy rainbow family where everybody is equal. I am sorry to disappoint you but some countries are WAY WAY behind the curve. Somalia, Sudan, Congo are not as developed as Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea. You may have had your head in the sand and didn't realize this news.

Look anywhere on the internet about these countries, this is common knowledge.

Also, why are Chinese able to move anywhere and outperform the locals once they get established. The authors point this out in one of my sources. Don't forget Malaysia (proving they can exceed Malays). They started out poor for the most part in Malaysia but outperformed the locals.

Why are Somalians poor for the most part in the USA while we see Indian immigrants moving up? Which immigrants are causing the most problems in Europe? Are the Japanese, Chinese, Indian? I am willing to guess they are mostly from Arabic, African nations or Turkey.

About the USA. Many blacks are good but on average the most dangerous cities in the USA and the majority have very large African-American populations in percentages. This is a fact and many whites won't say it but that is why many have moved. Ever heard the term 'white flight'? Again, many are good but a larger percentage are not good vs. the percentage for whites. This increases people's feelings of racism. Facts don't lie and it is hard not to have biased views when noticing this. Would you rather live in Portland or Detroit? Many liberals claim to be anti-racist but not many white liberals are flocking to majority black cities vs. hippy places. They are moving to Seattle, Portland, and Denver but don't seem to be flocking to Detroit, Cleveland, Birmingham, or St. Louis. The exceptions prove the rule. Some whites may move to these cities but they are probably in the suburbs (technically another town). I am just more direct than most. Actions speak louder than words. Liberals chant about rainbow villages but how many are moving into the inner cities or trying to find jobs or spouses in Sub-saharan Africa or Sudan, or Somalia (yes, some join the Peace Corps but these exceptions also prove the rule).

Higher prison rates (6 times that of whites)

http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/ ... ed-states/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/ ... ests-claim

top 25 most dangerous cities:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-25-m ... 12-10?op=1
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Postby Avenio » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:12 am

If race is real and it is responsible for differences in IQ measured between populations, you should be able to answer this one, simple query.

If race were a genuine clade of humans, you would be able to name a physiological or genetic trait or suite of traits that is wholly and completely unique to a particular race, and can be used, regardless of any other features, to correctly identify a person as that race 100% of the time.

No one I've asked has been able to answer this, despite it being the standard in biology used every day by biologists to determine taxonomy from phyla all the way down to sub-species and sub-populations.

The fact that they can't, or very often even refuse to answer the query, speaks volumes about the legitimacy of their pet construct.
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:43 am

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:


In fairness the authors of 'The Bell Curve' said data must be taken with caution. He didn't want his data used by hate groups but he did mention it should be used for govt. policy (such as less welfare to discourage poor people with lower IQ from having children). We must remember these are AVERAGES and there are plenty of highly intelligent black people including this man:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams

http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/

And of course there are plenty of retarded white gentlemen as well, including this gentleman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx

Just kidding, he likely had high IQ but of course caused more suffering than most low IQ retarded people out there. Yes, high IQ is just one factor. However, read 'The Bell Curve' (dry in parts but an important book) to find out why IQ is such an important measurement for society.

This is one reason you may notice in my posts I always support increased immigration from east Asian nations (and not just because the women are prettier there). I believe middle class and wealthy educated East Asians can make America stronger and bring it up (same for Ashkenazi Jews but there aren't many). Sub-Saharan farmers will not help and besides if we need poor people we have Latin America next door. The average Mexican is smarter and will fit in better with American culture than the average man from Congo.

Minnesota would very much like it if you would dissociate yourself with them.


Oh, I used to consider living in Minnesota but massive Somalian immigration to there (as well as Columbus, Ohio) made these places off limits to me. Sad when you have less choices due to poor govt. policies.

The logo is cool though and the wolf is one of my favorite animals (hard to find a wolf flag that is cooler).

I hope the liberals start moving to Minnesota and away from some of the more sane states. Your neighbor South Dakota has things more together, no state taxes and rated more business friendly. Less gangs from Somalia as well.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534048,00.html

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfiel ... gh-school/

A sensible rule of thumb on immigration policy should be that if a country is a fundamentally violent and broken place, then importing large numbers of its inhabitants will only spread that violence to the United States. (what I said many times as well)

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/displa ... rafficking
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Postby Pillea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:46 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Minnesota would very much like it if you would dissociate yourself with them.


Oh, I used to consider living in Minnesota but massive Somalian immigration to there (as well as Columbus, Ohio) made these places off limits to me. Sad when you have less choices due to poor govt. policies.

The logo is cool though and the wolf is one of my favorite animals (hard to find a wolf flag that is cooler).

I hope the liberals start moving to Minnesota and away from some of the more sane states. Your neighbor South Dakota has things more together, no state taxes and rated more business friendly. Less gangs from Somalia as well.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534048,00.html

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfiel ... gh-school/

A sensible rule of thumb on immigration policy should be that if a country is a fundamentally violent and broken place, then importing large numbers of its inhabitants will only spread that violence to the United States. (what I said many times as well)

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/displa ... rafficking


So during WW2 letting German Jews come to the US would indeed have been a big mistake due to them likely all being Nazis?
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:48 am

Pillea wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Oh, I used to consider living in Minnesota but massive Somalian immigration to there (as well as Columbus, Ohio) made these places off limits to me. Sad when you have less choices due to poor govt. policies.

The logo is cool though and the wolf is one of my favorite animals (hard to find a wolf flag that is cooler).

I hope the liberals start moving to Minnesota and away from some of the more sane states. Your neighbor South Dakota has things more together, no state taxes and rated more business friendly. Less gangs from Somalia as well.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534048,00.html

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfiel ... gh-school/

A sensible rule of thumb on immigration policy should be that if a country is a fundamentally violent and broken place, then importing large numbers of its inhabitants will only spread that violence to the United States. (what I said many times as well)

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/displa ... rafficking


So during WW2 letting German Jews come to the US would indeed have been a big mistake due to them likely all being Nazis?

Huh....is it even possible to Godwin a White Supremacy thread?

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:05 am

Avenio wrote:If race is real and it is responsible for differences in IQ measured between populations, you should be able to answer this one, simple query.

If race were a genuine clade of humans, you would be able to name a physiological or genetic trait or suite of traits that is wholly and completely unique to a particular race, and can be used, regardless of any other features, to correctly identify a person as that race 100% of the time.

No one I've asked has been able to answer this, despite it being the standard in biology used every day by biologists to determine taxonomy from phyla all the way down to sub-species and sub-populations.

The fact that they can't, or very often even refuse to answer the query, speaks volumes about the legitimacy of their pet construct.


Brain size

Many studies have looked at differences in brain size or head size between races. A study by Jensen and Johnson in 1994 concluded that black children had on average smaller heads and lower IQ than whites, and that IQ was positively correlated to head size. The differences in head size were alleged to account for the differences in IQ: "White and black children who are matched on IQ show, on average, virtually zero difference in head size."[142]

Earl Hunt, writing about the research of hereditarians in this area, states that because brain size is found to have a correlation of about .35 with intelligence among whites and is almost entirely genetically determined, race differences in average brain size are therefore an important argument for a possible genetic contribution to racial IQ gaps. However as brain images are expensive to obtain, much of the research in this area is based on measures of cranial capacity, which only measures brain size indirectly and thus makes the data less reliable. Hunt notes that, even when combined with measures of processing speed (mental chronometry), this data still just accounts for a difference of .19 standard deviations between Black and White average test scores, only a portion of the 1.0 standard deviation gap in average scores that is observed.[143]


http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushto ... atters.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_i ... telligence
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Postby Pillea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:07 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Pillea wrote:
So during WW2 letting German Jews come to the US would indeed have been a big mistake due to them likely all being Nazis?

Huh....is it even possible to Godwin a White Supremacy thread?

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:07 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Avenio wrote:If race is real and it is responsible for differences in IQ measured between populations, you should be able to answer this one, simple query.

If race were a genuine clade of humans, you would be able to name a physiological or genetic trait or suite of traits that is wholly and completely unique to a particular race, and can be used, regardless of any other features, to correctly identify a person as that race 100% of the time.

No one I've asked has been able to answer this, despite it being the standard in biology used every day by biologists to determine taxonomy from phyla all the way down to sub-species and sub-populations.

The fact that they can't, or very often even refuse to answer the query, speaks volumes about the legitimacy of their pet construct.


Brain size

Many studies have looked at differences in brain size or head size between races. A study by Jensen and Johnson in 1994 concluded that black children had on average smaller heads and lower IQ than whites, and that IQ was positively correlated to head size. The differences in head size were alleged to account for the differences in IQ: "White and black children who are matched on IQ show, on average, virtually zero difference in head size."[142]

Earl Hunt, writing about the research of hereditarians in this area, states that because brain size is found to have a correlation of about .35 with intelligence among whites and is almost entirely genetically determined, race differences in average brain size are therefore an important argument for a possible genetic contribution to racial IQ gaps. However as brain images are expensive to obtain, much of the research in this area is based on measures of cranial capacity, which only measures brain size indirectly and thus makes the data less reliable. Hunt notes that, even when combined with measures of processing speed (mental chronometry), this data still just accounts for a difference of .19 standard deviations between Black and White average test scores, only a portion of the 1.0 standard deviation gap in average scores that is observed.[143]


http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushto ... atters.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_i ... telligence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Race_and_intelligence#Neutrality_tag_in_.22Genetic_Arguments.22_lead.
No. You can't simply discount an entire fleet of factors and tie it to race alone.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:08 am

Pillea wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Huh....is it even possible to Godwin a White Supremacy thread?

I paid penance for it already, I donated 5$ to wikimedia.

Well, there you go. Your karma is now balanced.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:14 am

Pillea wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
Oh, I used to consider living in Minnesota but massive Somalian immigration to there (as well as Columbus, Ohio) made these places off limits to me. Sad when you have less choices due to poor govt. policies.

The logo is cool though and the wolf is one of my favorite animals (hard to find a wolf flag that is cooler).

I hope the liberals start moving to Minnesota and away from some of the more sane states. Your neighbor South Dakota has things more together, no state taxes and rated more business friendly. Less gangs from Somalia as well.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534048,00.html

http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfiel ... gh-school/

A sensible rule of thumb on immigration policy should be that if a country is a fundamentally violent and broken place, then importing large numbers of its inhabitants will only spread that violence to the United States. (what I said many times as well)

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/displa ... rafficking


So during WW2 letting German Jews come to the US would indeed have been a big mistake due to them likely all being Nazis?


Germany was a highly developed superpower back then and the violence within Germany was mostly directed at political dissidents and certain religious groups. The enemy came to Germany and made it a broken nation. It was pretty organized and functional before war was declared against it.

Somalia does not have the well organized govt. that Germany had back then. A totalitarian police state is not good but Germany back then was more organized and controlled than Somalia today.

Also, what religion do they belong to? Jews are safer than Muslims. In the past 500 years (probably even much furthur) I have not read about many Jewish takeovers of nations or mass attacks against non-believers.

Also, Ashkenazi Jews scored better than Africans in IQ tests. Unsure about other Jews but I know Europeans did much better than Africans as well.

Yeah, put the Jews in refugee camps. If they are educated and/or wealthy than let them stay in the USA (perhaps intellience tests can be given in their native language if they lack a degree). The smarter ones can get the work permits and a 7 year trial period before citizenship. The ones that have mental problems and/or score poorly might be shipped back when the war ends.
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Postby Pillea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:19 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Pillea wrote:
So during WW2 letting German Jews come to the US would indeed have been a big mistake due to them likely all being Nazis?


Germany was a highly developed superpower back then and the violence within Germany was mostly directed at political dissidents and certain religious groups. The enemy came to Germany and made it a broken nation. It was pretty organized and functional before war was declared against it.

Somalia does not have the well organized govt. that Germany had back then. A totalitarian police state is not good but Germany back then was more organized and controlled than Somalia today.

Also, what religion do they belong to? Jews are safer than Muslims. In the past 500 years (probably even much furthur) I have not read about many Jewish takeovers of nations or mass attacks against non-believers.

Also, Ashkenazi Jews scored better than Africans in IQ tests. Unsure about other Jews but I know Europeans did much better than Africans as well.

Yeah, put the Jews in refugee camps. If they are educated and/or wealthy than let them stay in the USA (perhaps intellience tests can be given in their native language if they lack a degree). The smarter ones can get the work permits and a 7 year trial period before citizenship. The ones that have mental problems and/or score poorly might be shipped back when the war ends.


So much for the whole New Colossus thing, ya know this:

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

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Postby Avenio » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:24 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:Brain size

Many studies have looked at differences in brain size or head size between races. A study by Jensen and Johnson in 1994 concluded that black children had on average smaller heads and lower IQ than whites, and that IQ was positively correlated to head size. The differences in head size were alleged to account for the differences in IQ: "White and black children who are matched on IQ show, on average, virtually zero difference in head size."[142]

Earl Hunt, writing about the research of hereditarians in this area, states that because brain size is found to have a correlation of about .35 with intelligence among whites and is almost entirely genetically determined, race differences in average brain size are therefore an important argument for a possible genetic contribution to racial IQ gaps. However as brain images are expensive to obtain, much of the research in this area is based on measures of cranial capacity, which only measures brain size indirectly and thus makes the data less reliable. Hunt notes that, even when combined with measures of processing speed (mental chronometry), this data still just accounts for a difference of .19 standard deviations between Black and White average test scores, only a portion of the 1.0 standard deviation gap in average scores that is observed.[143]


http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushto ... atters.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_i ... telligence


That doesn't answer the question. The point is to be able to have a trait that can be used by what biologists call a diagnostic trait - something that can be used independently of all other traits to correctly classify a specimen as a particular grouping 100% of the time.

Cranial capacity is a polygenic trait; it is controlled by an entire suite of genes that have an extreme amount of variance within 'races' as well as without. Same with IQ. Someone can have a small cranial capacity and a low IQ and be of one race just as much as someone with a large cranial capacity and a high IQ can be another. Doesn't matter if there are trends or not, trends can't be used in diagnostics.

So again; name a physiological or genetic trait or suite of traits that is wholly and completely unique to a particular race, and can be used, regardless of any other features, to correctly identify a person as that race 100% of the time.

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Postby Sidhae » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:36 am

Open-door immigration might have worked in a time when the average European was an illiterate peasant from a war-torn or otherwise unpleasant country, which would describe most places of the world at that time. Today things are different.

When you have highly-educated, cultured, law-abiding, tolerant and peaceful citizens who for most part haven't seen real violence outside TV (in harsher words - cowardly punk-ass whimps) on one side, and you throw in a bunch of illiterate, lawless and very violent folks with no concept of tolerance and accustomed to all sorts of warfare and violence on a casual basis (in harsher words - barbarous savages) on the other, it doesn't take much imagination to figure out who is going to own who, especially if the violent folks breed and migrate at alarming rates that considerably exceed the peaceful folks' reproductive rate. This wasn't a problem in a time when 90% of the human population were barely (if at all) literate, accustomed to casual violence to some degree, had no qualms about using it against those they disagreed with, preferred to solve their own problems rather than rely on authorities (which most often simply weren't there anyway) and all shagged like rabbits with most of their kids dying off in childhood anyway.

So I agree that anyone who is obviously incapable or unwilling to integrate or preferably assimilate in his host nation should be booted out, no questions asked. Who qualifies as incapable or unwilling is pretty evident when you compare various first-gen immigrant groups of whom some quickly set their lives straight and become productive members of community, while others only contribute to unemployment, welfare expense and violent crime statistics while displacing natives with their simple presence and the habit of bringing along their extended families.
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Postby Valkmar » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:39 am

Starkiller101 wrote:IS being a white sumpremist wrong Or is it free speech ( Us only) Express your opinion.
I think it wrong because there is no pure people any more. So white supremacy seems wrong. >:(

It's okay to be supportive of your own people, as it is ok to support your family, country, and whatever else you feel like supporting, and if you feel it's wrong, that's your opinion.
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Postby Pillea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:40 am

Sidhae wrote:Open-door immigration might have worked in a time when the average European was an illiterate peasant from a war-torn or otherwise unpleasant country, which would describe most places of the world at that time. Today things are different.

When you have highly-educated, cultured, law-abiding, tolerant and peaceful citizens who for most part haven't seen real violence outside TV (in harsher words - cowardly punk-ass whimps) on one side, and you throw in a bunch of illiterate, lawless and very violent folks with no concept of tolerance and accustomed to all sorts of warfare and violence on a casual basis (in harsher words - barbarous savages) on the other, it doesn't take much imagination to figure out who is going to own who, especially if the violent folks breed and migrate at alarming rates that considerably exceed the peaceful folks' reproductive rate. This wasn't a problem in a time when 90% of the human population were barely (if at all) literate, accustomed to casual violence to some degree, had no qualms about using it against those they disagreed with, preferred to solve their own problems rather than rely on authorities (which most often simply weren't there anyway) and all shagged like rabbits with most of their kids dying off in childhood anyway.

So I agree that anyone who is obviously incapable or unwilling to integrate or preferably assimilate in his host nation should be booted out, no questions asked. Who qualifies as incapable or unwilling is pretty evident when you compare various first-gen immigrant groups of whom some quickly set their lives straight and become productive members of community, while others only contribute to unemployment, welfare expense and violent crime statistics while displacing natives with their simple presence and the habit of bringing along their extended families.


I qualify for welfare, am unemployed, and am one of them darned liberals hell bent on destroying 'Murica; should I also be booted out, no questions asked? I'm a citizen of course, but I otherwise meet the standards you list.
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