I suppose it would be, if it commented at all upon my statement.
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by Anachronous Rex » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:11 pm

by Avenio » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:19 pm
Lamassu wrote:I believe in White Supremacy, but I'm not going to go out and kill a whole bunch of minorities and breach 14/88 while I do it. There are peaceful ways to conduct supremacist beliefs, like the living room of your house or in organized, permitted protests and assemblies.

by Hathradic States » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:23 pm

by Hathradic States » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:25 pm
Avenio wrote:Lamassu wrote:I believe in White Supremacy, but I'm not going to go out and kill a whole bunch of minorities and breach 14/88 while I do it. There are peaceful ways to conduct supremacist beliefs, like the living room of your house or in organized, permitted protests and assemblies.
Ah, another member of the 101st Fighting Keyboardists, eh?
I suppose in your case it would be the SS-Kämpfenschreibkräfte, though.


by Anachronous Rex » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:26 pm

by Hathradic States » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:56 pm
Anachronous Rex wrote:Hathradic States wrote:It does. You said there can be no peace when men hold themselves above others. I said, if no one did that (with everybody being equal), then there would be no success in the world.
Our statements relate to different things. I am talking about people holding themselves as intrinsically superior to others. I thought that was clear from the context.

by Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:36 am
Alimprad wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
The belief may be wrong unless you have statistics to back you up. Actually east Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have the most right to supremist attitudes because they have the highest IQ scores of all the races ('The Bell Curve' book has extensive data regarding race and IQs) and nationality is more accurate then color.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Bell_Curve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the ... of_Nations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality
IQ rates are falling also due to higher birth rates in nations with lower IQs:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
so according to that white people are superior to africans, intelligence isnt the only factor in life

by Pillea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:11 am

by The Black Forrest » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:20 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:In fairness the authors of 'The Bell Curve' said data must be taken with caution. He didn't want his data used by hate groups but he did mention it should be used for govt. policy (such as less welfare to discourage poor people with lower IQ from having children). We must remember these are AVERAGES and there are plenty of highly intelligent black people including this man:
if the author doesn't want it reviewed but thinks the government should use it.
by Anachronous Rex » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:21 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Alimprad wrote:so according to that white people are superior to africans, intelligence isnt the only factor in life
In fairness the authors of 'The Bell Curve' said data must be taken with caution. He didn't want his data used by hate groups but he did mention it should be used for govt. policy (such as less welfare to discourage poor people with lower IQ from having children). We must remember these are AVERAGES and there are plenty of highly intelligent black people including this man:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams
http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/
And of course there are plenty of retarded white gentlemen as well, including this gentleman:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
Just kidding, he likely had high IQ but of course caused more suffering than most low IQ retarded people out there. Yes, high IQ is just one factor. However, read 'The Bell Curve' (dry in parts but an important book) to find out why IQ is such an important measurement for society.
This is one reason you may notice in my posts I always support increased immigration from east Asian nations (and not just because the women are prettier there). I believe middle class and wealthy educated East Asians can make America stronger and bring it up (same for Ashkenazi Jews but there aren't many). Sub-Saharan farmers will not help and besides if we need poor people we have Latin America next door. The average Mexican is smarter and will fit in better with American culture than the average man from Congo.

by Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:57 am
Anachronous Rex wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
In fairness the authors of 'The Bell Curve' said data must be taken with caution. He didn't want his data used by hate groups but he did mention it should be used for govt. policy (such as less welfare to discourage poor people with lower IQ from having children). We must remember these are AVERAGES and there are plenty of highly intelligent black people including this man:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams
http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/
And of course there are plenty of retarded white gentlemen as well, including this gentleman:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
Just kidding, he likely had high IQ but of course caused more suffering than most low IQ retarded people out there. Yes, high IQ is just one factor. However, read 'The Bell Curve' (dry in parts but an important book) to find out why IQ is such an important measurement for society.
This is one reason you may notice in my posts I always support increased immigration from east Asian nations (and not just because the women are prettier there). I believe middle class and wealthy educated East Asians can make America stronger and bring it up (same for Ashkenazi Jews but there aren't many). Sub-Saharan farmers will not help and besides if we need poor people we have Latin America next door. The average Mexican is smarter and will fit in better with American culture than the average man from Congo.
Minnesota would very much like it if you would dissociate yourself with them.

by Avenio » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:12 am

by Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:43 am
Anachronous Rex wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
In fairness the authors of 'The Bell Curve' said data must be taken with caution. He didn't want his data used by hate groups but he did mention it should be used for govt. policy (such as less welfare to discourage poor people with lower IQ from having children). We must remember these are AVERAGES and there are plenty of highly intelligent black people including this man:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Williams
http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/
And of course there are plenty of retarded white gentlemen as well, including this gentleman:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
Just kidding, he likely had high IQ but of course caused more suffering than most low IQ retarded people out there. Yes, high IQ is just one factor. However, read 'The Bell Curve' (dry in parts but an important book) to find out why IQ is such an important measurement for society.
This is one reason you may notice in my posts I always support increased immigration from east Asian nations (and not just because the women are prettier there). I believe middle class and wealthy educated East Asians can make America stronger and bring it up (same for Ashkenazi Jews but there aren't many). Sub-Saharan farmers will not help and besides if we need poor people we have Latin America next door. The average Mexican is smarter and will fit in better with American culture than the average man from Congo.
Minnesota would very much like it if you would dissociate yourself with them.

by Pillea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:46 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Anachronous Rex wrote:Minnesota would very much like it if you would dissociate yourself with them.
Oh, I used to consider living in Minnesota but massive Somalian immigration to there (as well as Columbus, Ohio) made these places off limits to me. Sad when you have less choices due to poor govt. policies.
The logo is cool though and the wolf is one of my favorite animals (hard to find a wolf flag that is cooler).
I hope the liberals start moving to Minnesota and away from some of the more sane states. Your neighbor South Dakota has things more together, no state taxes and rated more business friendly. Less gangs from Somalia as well.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534048,00.html
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfiel ... gh-school/
A sensible rule of thumb on immigration policy should be that if a country is a fundamentally violent and broken place, then importing large numbers of its inhabitants will only spread that violence to the United States. (what I said many times as well)
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/displa ... rafficking

by The Emerald Dawn » Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:48 am
Pillea wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
Oh, I used to consider living in Minnesota but massive Somalian immigration to there (as well as Columbus, Ohio) made these places off limits to me. Sad when you have less choices due to poor govt. policies.
The logo is cool though and the wolf is one of my favorite animals (hard to find a wolf flag that is cooler).
I hope the liberals start moving to Minnesota and away from some of the more sane states. Your neighbor South Dakota has things more together, no state taxes and rated more business friendly. Less gangs from Somalia as well.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534048,00.html
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfiel ... gh-school/
A sensible rule of thumb on immigration policy should be that if a country is a fundamentally violent and broken place, then importing large numbers of its inhabitants will only spread that violence to the United States. (what I said many times as well)
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/displa ... rafficking
So during WW2 letting German Jews come to the US would indeed have been a big mistake due to them likely all being Nazis?

by Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:05 am
Avenio wrote:If race is real and it is responsible for differences in IQ measured between populations, you should be able to answer this one, simple query.
If race were a genuine clade of humans, you would be able to name a physiological or genetic trait or suite of traits that is wholly and completely unique to a particular race, and can be used, regardless of any other features, to correctly identify a person as that race 100% of the time.
No one I've asked has been able to answer this, despite it being the standard in biology used every day by biologists to determine taxonomy from phyla all the way down to sub-species and sub-populations.
The fact that they can't, or very often even refuse to answer the query, speaks volumes about the legitimacy of their pet construct.

by The Emerald Dawn » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:07 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Avenio wrote:If race is real and it is responsible for differences in IQ measured between populations, you should be able to answer this one, simple query.
If race were a genuine clade of humans, you would be able to name a physiological or genetic trait or suite of traits that is wholly and completely unique to a particular race, and can be used, regardless of any other features, to correctly identify a person as that race 100% of the time.
No one I've asked has been able to answer this, despite it being the standard in biology used every day by biologists to determine taxonomy from phyla all the way down to sub-species and sub-populations.
The fact that they can't, or very often even refuse to answer the query, speaks volumes about the legitimacy of their pet construct.
Brain size
Many studies have looked at differences in brain size or head size between races. A study by Jensen and Johnson in 1994 concluded that black children had on average smaller heads and lower IQ than whites, and that IQ was positively correlated to head size. The differences in head size were alleged to account for the differences in IQ: "White and black children who are matched on IQ show, on average, virtually zero difference in head size."[142]
Earl Hunt, writing about the research of hereditarians in this area, states that because brain size is found to have a correlation of about .35 with intelligence among whites and is almost entirely genetically determined, race differences in average brain size are therefore an important argument for a possible genetic contribution to racial IQ gaps. However as brain images are expensive to obtain, much of the research in this area is based on measures of cranial capacity, which only measures brain size indirectly and thus makes the data less reliable. Hunt notes that, even when combined with measures of processing speed (mental chronometry), this data still just accounts for a difference of .19 standard deviations between Black and White average test scores, only a portion of the 1.0 standard deviation gap in average scores that is observed.[143]
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushto ... atters.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_i ... telligence

by The Emerald Dawn » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:08 am

by Freiheit Reich » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:14 am
Pillea wrote:Freiheit Reich wrote:
Oh, I used to consider living in Minnesota but massive Somalian immigration to there (as well as Columbus, Ohio) made these places off limits to me. Sad when you have less choices due to poor govt. policies.
The logo is cool though and the wolf is one of my favorite animals (hard to find a wolf flag that is cooler).
I hope the liberals start moving to Minnesota and away from some of the more sane states. Your neighbor South Dakota has things more together, no state taxes and rated more business friendly. Less gangs from Somalia as well.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534048,00.html
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfiel ... gh-school/
A sensible rule of thumb on immigration policy should be that if a country is a fundamentally violent and broken place, then importing large numbers of its inhabitants will only spread that violence to the United States. (what I said many times as well)
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/displa ... rafficking
So during WW2 letting German Jews come to the US would indeed have been a big mistake due to them likely all being Nazis?

by Pillea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:19 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Pillea wrote:
So during WW2 letting German Jews come to the US would indeed have been a big mistake due to them likely all being Nazis?
Germany was a highly developed superpower back then and the violence within Germany was mostly directed at political dissidents and certain religious groups. The enemy came to Germany and made it a broken nation. It was pretty organized and functional before war was declared against it.
Somalia does not have the well organized govt. that Germany had back then. A totalitarian police state is not good but Germany back then was more organized and controlled than Somalia today.
Also, what religion do they belong to? Jews are safer than Muslims. In the past 500 years (probably even much furthur) I have not read about many Jewish takeovers of nations or mass attacks against non-believers.
Also, Ashkenazi Jews scored better than Africans in IQ tests. Unsure about other Jews but I know Europeans did much better than Africans as well.
Yeah, put the Jews in refugee camps. If they are educated and/or wealthy than let them stay in the USA (perhaps intellience tests can be given in their native language if they lack a degree). The smarter ones can get the work permits and a 7 year trial period before citizenship. The ones that have mental problems and/or score poorly might be shipped back when the war ends.

by Avenio » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:24 am
Freiheit Reich wrote:Brain size
Many studies have looked at differences in brain size or head size between races. A study by Jensen and Johnson in 1994 concluded that black children had on average smaller heads and lower IQ than whites, and that IQ was positively correlated to head size. The differences in head size were alleged to account for the differences in IQ: "White and black children who are matched on IQ show, on average, virtually zero difference in head size."[142]
Earl Hunt, writing about the research of hereditarians in this area, states that because brain size is found to have a correlation of about .35 with intelligence among whites and is almost entirely genetically determined, race differences in average brain size are therefore an important argument for a possible genetic contribution to racial IQ gaps. However as brain images are expensive to obtain, much of the research in this area is based on measures of cranial capacity, which only measures brain size indirectly and thus makes the data less reliable. Hunt notes that, even when combined with measures of processing speed (mental chronometry), this data still just accounts for a difference of .19 standard deviations between Black and White average test scores, only a portion of the 1.0 standard deviation gap in average scores that is observed.[143]
http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushto ... atters.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_i ... telligence

by Sidhae » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:36 am

by Valkmar » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:39 am
Starkiller101 wrote:IS being a white sumpremist wrong Or is it free speech ( Us only) Express your opinion.
I think it wrong because there is no pure people any more. So white supremacy seems wrong.
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by Pillea » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:40 am
Sidhae wrote:Open-door immigration might have worked in a time when the average European was an illiterate peasant from a war-torn or otherwise unpleasant country, which would describe most places of the world at that time. Today things are different.
When you have highly-educated, cultured, law-abiding, tolerant and peaceful citizens who for most part haven't seen real violence outside TV (in harsher words - cowardly punk-ass whimps) on one side, and you throw in a bunch of illiterate, lawless and very violent folks with no concept of tolerance and accustomed to all sorts of warfare and violence on a casual basis (in harsher words - barbarous savages) on the other, it doesn't take much imagination to figure out who is going to own who, especially if the violent folks breed and migrate at alarming rates that considerably exceed the peaceful folks' reproductive rate. This wasn't a problem in a time when 90% of the human population were barely (if at all) literate, accustomed to casual violence to some degree, had no qualms about using it against those they disagreed with, preferred to solve their own problems rather than rely on authorities (which most often simply weren't there anyway) and all shagged like rabbits with most of their kids dying off in childhood anyway.
So I agree that anyone who is obviously incapable or unwilling to integrate or preferably assimilate in his host nation should be booted out, no questions asked. Who qualifies as incapable or unwilling is pretty evident when you compare various first-gen immigrant groups of whom some quickly set their lives straight and become productive members of community, while others only contribute to unemployment, welfare expense and violent crime statistics while displacing natives with their simple presence and the habit of bringing along their extended families.
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