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Is white supremacy wrong

1.It wrong "explain"
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2. its not "explain why"
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3. Other "Please explain"
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The Truth and Light
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:37 am

Starkiller101 wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Oh my godddddddd.

You can't just cite a work of distopian fiction as proof of your argument. It doesn't strengthen your point; rather, it's only self-effacing and gullible.
what she said

I identify as male.

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Postby Starkiller101 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:37 am

The Truth and Light wrote:
Starkiller101 wrote: what she said

I identify as male.
oh im sorry
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The Truth and Light
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Postby The Truth and Light » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:40 am

Starkiller101 wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:I identify as male.
oh im sorry

It's totally fine, hon. I was just letting you know for future reference. :)

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Postby Vazdania » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:48 pm

Starkiller101 wrote:There is no dominent race in the world so white supremacy is wrong but its still legal

based on?
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:57 pm

The Truth and Light wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:So you want to lock up people because they have a different opinion than you?

Strawman fallacy. Parrot back something from your ideology, mish-mash what I actually said, yadda yadda.

Basically, what I really want is a society where people are free to have open dialogues and to access any sort of information. I also want a society where everyone has an equal playing field to achieve their goals and to feel fulfilled. White supremacy only reifies the fact that white people (still) are treated as the superior race in Western societies; buying into it is directly harmful to everyone. You cannot just believe in an ideology without affecting others. Your beliefs always affect others, directly or indirectly, so yeah, sometimes believing in certain things is wrong - especially if your belief has caused and continues to cause the suffering and oppression of millions.


The belief may be wrong unless you have statistics to back you up. Actually east Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have the most right to supremist attitudes because they have the highest IQ scores of all the races ('The Bell Curve' book has extensive data regarding race and IQs) and nationality is more accurate then color.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Bell_Curve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the ... of_Nations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality

IQ rates are falling also due to higher birth rates in nations with lower IQs:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:14 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Strawman fallacy. Parrot back something from your ideology, mish-mash what I actually said, yadda yadda.

Basically, what I really want is a society where people are free to have open dialogues and to access any sort of information. I also want a society where everyone has an equal playing field to achieve their goals and to feel fulfilled. White supremacy only reifies the fact that white people (still) are treated as the superior race in Western societies; buying into it is directly harmful to everyone. You cannot just believe in an ideology without affecting others. Your beliefs always affect others, directly or indirectly, so yeah, sometimes believing in certain things is wrong - especially if your belief has caused and continues to cause the suffering and oppression of millions.


The belief may be wrong unless you have statistics to back you up. Actually east Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have the most right to supremist attitudes because they have the highest IQ scores of all the races ('The Bell Curve' book has extensive data regarding race and IQs) and nationality is more accurate then color.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Bell_Curve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the ... of_Nations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality

IQ rates are falling also due to higher birth rates in nations with lower IQs:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/


Bell curve?

Oh lordy. Been reading Herrnstein have we?

You know his data didn't go through peer review when he published that book right?
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Libertarian California
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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:26 pm

I see little point in racial supremacy.

Being mixed race myself, I find that having "mixed race pride" is pretty stupid and pointless. I assume that white supremacy has the same effect.

It is pointless and a waste of time.
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:47 pm

The notion that any race is better than an other is stupid and ridiculous. Race doesn't matter. You're either American, or not.

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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:48 pm

Hathradic States wrote:The notion that any race is better than an other is stupid and ridiculous. Race doesn't matter. You're either American, or not.


Amen.

Although, I'm sure some uppity European is going to make a bullshit accusation of "Americentrism". :p
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The Sector Union
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Postby The Sector Union » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:56 pm

It is wrong but because of them, innocent white people feel ashamed of their race because of pressures by society.
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Postby Alimprad » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:58 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Strawman fallacy. Parrot back something from your ideology, mish-mash what I actually said, yadda yadda.

Basically, what I really want is a society where people are free to have open dialogues and to access any sort of information. I also want a society where everyone has an equal playing field to achieve their goals and to feel fulfilled. White supremacy only reifies the fact that white people (still) are treated as the superior race in Western societies; buying into it is directly harmful to everyone. You cannot just believe in an ideology without affecting others. Your beliefs always affect others, directly or indirectly, so yeah, sometimes believing in certain things is wrong - especially if your belief has caused and continues to cause the suffering and oppression of millions.


The belief may be wrong unless you have statistics to back you up. Actually east Asians and Ashkenazi Jews have the most right to supremist attitudes because they have the highest IQ scores of all the races ('The Bell Curve' book has extensive data regarding race and IQs) and nationality is more accurate then color.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Global_Bell_Curve

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the ... of_Nations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality

IQ rates are falling also due to higher birth rates in nations with lower IQs:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/IQ/1950-2050/

so according to that white people are superior to africans :palm: , intelligence isnt the only factor in life :palm:
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Postby Alimprad » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:59 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:The notion that any race is better than an other is stupid and ridiculous. Race doesn't matter. You're either American, or not.


Amen.

Although, I'm sure some uppity European is going to make a bullshit accusation of "Americentrism". :p

that european is me! :rofl:
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:01 pm

Libertarian California wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:The notion that any race is better than an other is stupid and ridiculous. Race doesn't matter. You're either American, or not.


Amen.

Although, I'm sure some uppity European is going to make a bullshit accusation of "Americentrism". :p

I'm a nationalist, sue me. :P

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Postby Lamassu » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:01 pm

I believe in White Supremacy, but I'm not going to go out and kill a whole bunch of minorities and breach 14/88 while I do it. There are peaceful ways to conduct supremacist beliefs, like the living room of your house or in organized, permitted protests and assemblies.
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The Sector Union
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Postby The Sector Union » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:03 pm

Lamassu wrote:I believe in White Supremacy, but I'm not going to go out and kill a whole bunch of minorities and breach 14/88 while I do it. There are peaceful ways to conduct supremacist beliefs, like the living room of your house or in organized, permitted protests and assemblies.


Do you paint your walls in your living room white? CUZ ITS THE BEST COULA.
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Lamassu
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Postby Lamassu » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:04 pm

The Sector Union wrote:
Lamassu wrote:I believe in White Supremacy, but I'm not going to go out and kill a whole bunch of minorities and breach 14/88 while I do it. There are peaceful ways to conduct supremacist beliefs, like the living room of your house or in organized, permitted protests and assemblies.


Do you paint your walls in your living room whit? CUZ ITS THE BEST COULA.

You're not funny.
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The Sector Union
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Postby The Sector Union » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:04 pm

Lamassu wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:
Do you paint your walls in your living room whit? CUZ ITS THE BEST COULA.

You're not funny.

That was a serious question actually. I don't know why you had to search for humor in it.
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Postby Lamassu » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:06 pm

The Sector Union wrote:
Lamassu wrote:You're not funny.

That was a serious question actually. I don't know why you had to search for humor in it.

No, it wasn't a serious question.
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Postby The Sector Union » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:07 pm

Lamassu wrote:
The Sector Union wrote:That was a serious question actually. I don't know why you had to search for humor in it.

No, it wasn't a serious question.


Okay then, have it your way.
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Postby Libertarian California » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:07 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Amen.

Although, I'm sure some uppity European is going to make a bullshit accusation of "Americentrism". :p

I'm a nationalist, sue me. :P


I'm also a nationalist :)
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Postby ALMF » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:07 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:It's wrong and it is protected by free speech.

This is perfect. :clap:
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Postby Anachronous Rex » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:08 pm

Lamassu wrote:I believe in White Supremacy, but I'm not going to go out and kill a whole bunch of minorities and breach 14/88 while I do it. There are peaceful ways to conduct supremacist beliefs, like the living room of your house or in organized, permitted protests and assemblies.

So long as any man raises himself above another, there can be no peace.
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:09 pm

Anachronous Rex wrote:
Lamassu wrote:I believe in White Supremacy, but I'm not going to go out and kill a whole bunch of minorities and breach 14/88 while I do it. There are peaceful ways to conduct supremacist beliefs, like the living room of your house or in organized, permitted protests and assemblies.

So long as any man raises himself above another, there can be no peace.

And when all men are equal, there will be no success.

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Postby Alimprad » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:09 pm

Lamassu wrote:I believe in White Supremacy, but I'm not going to go out and kill a whole bunch of minorities and breach 14/88 while I do it. There are peaceful ways to conduct supremacist beliefs, like the living room of your house or in organized, permitted protests and assemblies.

oh right, u lynche people in ur living room, why didnt I try that :palm:
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Postby Alimprad » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:10 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:So long as any man raises himself above another, there can be no peace.

And when all men are equal, there will be no success.

BURN!
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