Should democracy get tough on communist party's in the west?

[Death Metal]

That is why, when I addressed your idiocy the first time, I referred to myself as Mr. United States.

I am not part of a political landmass, no. I am a human being.

Remember, in Soviet Greece, individuality is obsolete.

In Soviet Greece, hummus wraps YOU!

[CTALNH]

Remember, in Soviet Greece, individuality is obsolete.

In Soviet Greece, hummus wraps YOU!

Jews it hummus not us.

[Individual]

Do as you please, but prepare to take responsibility and suffer the consequences.

No responsibility. Freedom fighters don't get responsibilities. Oppressive governments do.

Every individual takes responsibility in his actions, as there will always be consequences. By responsibility, I mean: take care of yourself. Don't get shot, if you truly are for freedom.

[CTALNH]

You live in Somalia?

No, he lives in the United States. That doesn't mean he's a representative of the United States, nor does it mean that the United States is representative of him.

How is that so fucking hard to understand?

Or: Since when was the United States a 350-million-piece Megazord?

Do they teach Thucydides in your schools for fucks sake?

Or is that the reason you lack the I am part of the my nation first before I am an individual.

[Hippostania]

Exist what 400 years?

I only remember the Polish Lithuanian kingdom and thats that.

First nation to use the name "Poland" was established in 1025, while the first Polish state already existed in the late 900's.

[Individual]

No, he lives in the United States. That doesn't mean he's a representative of the United States, nor does it mean that the United States is representative of him.

How is that so fucking hard to understand?

Or: Since when was the United States a 350-million-piece Megazord?

Do they teach Thucydides in your schools for fucks sake?

Or is that the reason you lack the I am part of the my nation first before I am an individual.

Do you have a problem with us others not being bourgeois totalitarian ultranationalists?

[Harkback Union]

I love how It's the same people debating abaut the same meaningless crap agin...
But than why don't we create an official "Communism - a pointless debate" thread so we can debate endlessly abaut this without having to worry abaut an admin coming araund and closing the thread...
+ we it could be the longest thread in the history of NS...

[Hippostania]

Well, he did the same to Finnish communists. Tens of thousands of them fled into the Soviet Union after the Reds lost the Finnish Civil War.

By the late 30's, most of them were dead.

Thanks for the confirmation

No problem.

So CTALNH, want to explain what happened to the tens of thousands of Finnish communists who were so keen to establish one of the first soviet republics? Were they evil trotskyists or bourgeois collaborators?

[Wamitoria]

Do they teach Thucydides in your schools for fucks sake?

Or is that the reason you lack the I am part of the my nation first before I am an individual.

Do you have a problem with us others not being bourgeois totalitarian ultranationalists?

I do. It makes the discussion significantly less fun.

[Imperiatom]

I would oppose point to 2 as communism is in theory the event of a single political class.

Actually, no. Communism in theory is an idealistic pipe dream in which a dictatorship simply fades away into nothing, birthing the classless society that is actual Communism. This is preceded by a revolution and then a totalitarian state, but that state is NOT Communism (in theory or in practice). I trust this statement makes plain my personal view that an authentic communist society is impossible (at least on any large scale like a nation). However, my view that the system is impossible does not require me to portray it as something it is not.

Socialism is the economic system communism uses. Communism is the government system applied to a socialist economy.

But you can have a socialist economy under practically any government system.

To be fair, Communism can be classified as a form of Socialism. However, I believe most people distinguish between Socialism and Communism as two distinct systems.

To have a classless society you need a single class.

[Sibirsky]

In Soviet Greece, hummus wraps YOU!

Jews it hummus not us.

Anyone who wants to, eats hummus. I do not think they check your Jew card when you try to buy it.

[Death Metal]

Jews it hummus not us.

Anyone who wants to, eats hummus. I do not think they check your Jew card when you try to buy it.

Lucky for me they don't.

Also, note to self: Try bacon with hummus.

[Death Metal]

No, he lives in the United States. That doesn't mean he's a representative of the United States, nor does it mean that the United States is representative of him.

How is that so fucking hard to understand?

Or: Since when was the United States a 350-million-piece Megazord?

Do they teach Thucydides in your schools for fucks sake?

Or is that the reason you lack the I am part of the my nation first before I am an individual.

Or maybe I feel the entire argument of nationalism vs individualism isn't completely fucking binary, and you can be a member of a society without all of your opinions being in total agreement with societal dogma?

[Chinese Regions]

What gives one kind of organisations (corporations) more rights than another (governments)?

Governments don't give rights, they take them away. Rights are universal, natural and absolute. They have always existed and always will.

Corporations or any humans can take rights away just as well.
And doesn't answer the question.
There is nothing at all different between a government banning non-whites and a corporation doing the same.

[Risottia]

Anyone who wants to, eats hummus.

I honestly read it as "eat humans".

[Risottia]

No responsibility. Freedom fighters don't get responsibilities. Oppressive governments do.

Every individual takes responsibility in his actions, as there will always be consequences.

If recent history teaches us anything, is that being called a "freedom fighter" is a great "do the fuck you want for free card".

By responsibility, I mean: take care of yourself. Don't get shot, if you truly are for freedom.

No probbo.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Your not your country and part of what you believe in?

What filthy things are they teaching you in your schools?

No we are not our countries. When people greet me, they do not call me Mr. United States.

I should really just requote DM's post above you.

[The Huskar Social Union]

As many people here have said already, freedom of speech and representation through political parties are vital tenants of Democracy, so no they should not be banned, members imprisoned, persecuted or anything else like that.

Anyone who wants to, eats hummus.

I honestly read it as "eat humans".

Not the only one.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Do they teach Thucydides in your schools for fucks sake?

Or is that the reason you lack the I am part of the my nation first before I am an individual.

Or maybe I feel the entire argument of nationalism vs individualism isn't completely fucking binary, and you can be a member of a society without all of your opinions being in total agreement with societal dogma?

I want to say /thread but it really wouldn't be. You get the point though.

[CTALNH]

Do they teach Thucydides in your schools for fucks sake?

Or is that the reason you lack the I am part of the my nation first before I am an individual.

Or maybe I feel the entire argument of nationalism vs individualism isn't completely fucking binary, and you can be a member of a society without all of your opinions being in total agreement with societal dogma?

So your against the Athenian that supports democracy?

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Or maybe I feel the entire argument of nationalism vs individualism isn't completely fucking binary, and you can be a member of a society without all of your opinions being in total agreement with societal dogma?

So your against the Athenian that supports democracy?

Being against some of someone's ideas =/= being against all of their ideas.

Come on, man. It's not difficult.

[CTALNH]

So your against the Athenian that supports democracy?

Being against some of someone's ideas =/= being against all of their ideas.

Come on, man. It's not difficult.

But by him that the corner stone for democracy for everyone.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Being against some of someone's ideas =/= being against all of their ideas.

Come on, man. It's not difficult.

But by him that the corner stone for democracy for everyone.

That isn't a sentence.

[CTALNH]

But by him that the corner stone for democracy for everyone.

That isn't a sentence.

But by him thats the building block for democracy.

God damned English.

[The Huskar Social Union]

That isn't a sentence.

But by him thats the building block for democracy.

God damned English.

If you have trouble posting in English firsthand, maybe try typing what you want to say in Greek into Google translate or something similar and translate it to English then copy and paste it here. Would help us understand your posts more.