Who was the worst American President

by **The empire of Washington** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:26 am

Who in your opinion was the worst American President and why? Personally i would say James Buchanan for do nothing to stop the civil war and wasting Federal money on poker parties.

by **Free Detroit** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:27 am

Harry Truman, for being an incompetent asshat.

by **Essos** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:27 am

Lincoln, for being Lincoln. Also, cue incoming thread hijacks in 3...2...1...

by **The empire of Washington** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:29 am

Free Detroit wrote:Harry Truman, for being an incompetent asshat.

Give the man a little credit he pulled off what is considered the greatest upset win in American history.

by **Nationalist State of Knox** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:31 am

George Washington for being instrumental in defeating the British Empire.

by **Free Detroit** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:32 am

The empire of Washington wrote:
Free Detroit wrote:Harry Truman, for being an incompetent asshat.

Give the man a little credit he pulled off what is considered the greatest upset win in American history.

For the VP nomination? It was openly rigged.

by **Heavenly Peace** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:33 am

Woodrow Wilson.

by **The empire of Washington** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:33 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:George Washington for being instrumental in defeating the British Empire.

Wait what wasnt the height of the empire in 1915 more than a century after his death?

by **The empire of Washington** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:34 am

Free Detroit wrote:
The empire of Washington wrote:Give the man a little credit he pulled off what is considered the greatest upset win in American history.

For the VP nomination? It was openly rigged.

No for reelection in 48

by **The empire of Washington** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:35 am

Heavenly Peace wrote:Woodrow Wilson.

Who takes us into World war I :rofl:

if you get that reference you are a great person.

by **Nationalist State of Knox** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:35 am

The empire of Washington wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:George Washington for being instrumental in defeating the British Empire.

Wait what wasnt the height of the empire in 1915 more than a century after hsi death?

He defeated the British Empire, he didn't destroy it.

by **Yankee Empire** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:35 am

Taft and Woodrow Wilson for Preventing another Presidency of Theodore Roosevelt.

by **Trotskylvania** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:37 am

James Buchanan or Andrew Johnson, though it's hard to indict them without also indicting Thomas Jefferson, for their presidencies were abject failures due to the issue of slavery and the trials of the Civil War and Reconstruction that came with it, and it was Jefferson who did more than any other president to perpetuate the slave regime

by **The Tiger Kingdom** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:39 am

I think Truman did an OK-to-good job - he wasn't spectacular, but I can understand and sympathize with what he did wrong, and he did a whole lot right.

The worst would have to be Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, or...well...Bush 42 may have been a nice guy, but...it's hard to defend much of anything he did in retrospect.

by **Espartius** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:40 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
The empire of Washington wrote:Wait what wasnt the height of the empire in 1915 more than a century after hsi death?

He defeated the British Empire, he didn't destroy it.

Washington was expected to lead the Continental Army to victory against the British and secure the colonies' independence, not to destroy the Empire itself. Yet today, the end of the American Revolutionary War and the loss of the Thirteen Colonies is regarded as the end of the first British Empire - the second Empire would see Britain turn to other continents.

In my opinion, the worst president is James Buchanan - for being dangerously indecisive in a time when America was divided over slavery.

by **Eaglleia** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:42 am

George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson were the worst.

In all seriousness, Buchanan, Coolidge, Pierce, Johnson, George.W, Hoover, Carter (as president, he was horrible) and Harding were all bad, I can't decide which single one was worst.

by **Herador** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:43 am

I've never been a fan of LBJ.

by **The empire of Washington** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:43 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:I think Truman did an OK-to-good job - he wasn't spectacular, but I can understand and sympathize with what he did wrong, and he did a whole lot right.

The worst would have to be Buchanan, Andrew Johnson, or...well...Bush 42 may have been a nice guy, but...it's hard to defend much of anything he did in retrospect.

Thanks for mentioning Bush 42 you just won me ten dollars

by **Deep Minded People** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:44 am

Easy one - George W. Bush followed by his father. Both, leading wars only in the name of economical benefits, totally disregarding everything else.

by **Yankee Empire** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:44 am

Eaglleia wrote:George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson were the worst.

In all seriousness, Buchanan, Coolidge, Pierce, Johnson, George.W, Hoover, Carter (as president, he was horrible) and Harding were the worst, I can't decide who was worst.

Good list, in honesty idon't think Taftand Woodrow Wilson are the worst (Though wilson is much closer) but Theodore Rosevelt is oe of My Favorite presidents.

by **Eaglleia** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:45 am

The empire of Washington wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:George Washington for being instrumental in defeating the British Empire.

Wait what wasnt the height of the empire in 1915 more than a century after his death?

Yes, true, and its last major territorial loss was late into the 20th century, buuut that was the "Second British Empire", not the "First".

by **The Tiger Kingdom** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:45 am

Eaglleia wrote:George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson were the worst.

In all seriousness, Buchanan, Coolidge, Pierce, Johnson, George.W, Hoover, Carter (as president, he was horrible) and Harding were the worst, I can't decide who was worst.

Can't believe I forgot Harding. Fucker got inducted into the KKK on the White House lawn. Dubya never did that, to his credit!

I don't think Wilson is THE worst, but he's not far from it. Racist, ivory-tower asshole.
And why Coolidge? Guy seemed pretty...boring, really.
I think Carter was just unlucky as fuck and got elected at a terrible time, and so became a total scapegoat.

by **The empire of Washington** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:45 am

Eaglleia wrote:George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson were the worst.
FDR was not as good as people claim.
In all seriousness, Buchanan, Coolidge, Pierce, Johnson, George.W, Hoover, Carter (as president, he was horrible) and Harding were the worst, I can't decide who was worst.

by **The empire of Washington** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:47 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Eaglleia wrote:George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin D Roosevelt, Thomas Jefferson were the worst.

In all seriousness, Buchanan, Coolidge, Pierce, Johnson, George.W, Hoover, Carter (as president, he was horrible) and Harding were the worst, I can't decide who was worst.

Can't believe I forgot Harding. Fucker got inducted into the KKK on the White House lawn. Dubya never did that, to his credit!
I don't think Wilson is THE worst, but he's not far from it. Racist, ivory-tower asshole.
And why Coolidge? Guy seemed pretty...boring, really.
I think Carter was just unlucky as fuck and got elected at a terrible time, and so became a total scapegoat.

Carter was .......meh the tax on excess oil profits and 65 MPH speed limit were terrible ideas.

by **Divair** » Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:47 am

Reagan.

I hear the cries of a thousand conservatives.

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