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Modern "feminists", many of whom are on these forums actually despise women & themselves. They claim we have a "rape culture", in which it is acceptable to rape people. Furthermore, they don't give a fuck about the actual problems plaguing women, they instead attempt to distract the attention of women away from existing sexism in our society, & towards hating men. Thus is my conclusion:

-Seeing how the feminist movement was winning, they had to derail it

-They therefore set the bourgeoisie intellectuals to write in support of the movement

-Now that the bourgeoisie intellectuals have become an accepted part of the movement, they are able to derail it

-Derailment is accomplished through the promotion of bullshit theses such as "rape culture"

-Rather than being an anti-bigotry movement, feminism has now become a man-hating bigoted movement that only promotes gender roles

By promoting gender roles, women are taught to hate themselves & men, hence becoming a blockade to socialist revolution. Rather than being a socialist movement, feminism has become a form of anti-communist fascism.

Free Council Communes wrote:Modern "feminists", many of whom are on these forums actually despise women & themselves. They claim we have a "rape culture", in which it is acceptable to rape people. Furthermore, they don't give a fuck about the actual problems plaguing women, they instead attempt to distract the attention of women away from existing sexism in our society, & towards hating men. Thus is my conclusion:

-Seeing how the feminist movement was winning, they had to derail it

-They therefore set the bourgeoisie intellectuals to write in support of the movement

-Now that the bourgeoisie intellectuals have become an accepted part of the movement, they are able to derail it

-Derailment is accomplished through the promotion of bullshit theses such as "rape culture"

-Rather than being an anti-bigotry movement, feminism has now become a man-hating bigoted movement that only promotes gender roles

By promoting gender roles, women are taught to hate themselves & men, hence becoming a blockade to socialist revolution. Rather than being a socialist movement, feminism has become a form of anti-communist fascism.

:palm:

Golden Throne preserve us.

Samuraikoku wrote:Golden Throne preserve us.

Please tell me the Emperor does not endorse this sort of thing.

Modern feminism is not misandrous. Some feminists are, but saying modern feminism in itself is illustrates a fundamental lack of knowledge of feminism today. Denial of the existence of a rape culture in society is the denial of a something which has been shown to exist time and time again. I'd advise you actually research these things before posting what is little more than an anti-feminist blog.

Dear fucking god...

Threlizdun wrote:Modern feminism is not misandrous. Some feminists are, but saying modern feminism in itself is illustrates a fundamental lack of knowledge of feminism today. Denial of the existence of a rape culture in society is the denial of a something which has been shown to exist time and time again. I'd advise you actually research these things before posting what is little more than an anti-feminist blog.

I am a true feminist, I believe in the complete abolition of gender roles. Modern "feminists" are actually anti-feminist.

I like the casual sideswipe at "bourgeoisie intellectuals" before steering a straight into misogyny. its like a having a coke with your burger king. to continue the metaphor, its something thats been watered down till no trace remains of the orginal flavour, package alongside something thats disgusting, impossible to swallow and you'd have to be a fool to buy.

Free Council Communes wrote:-They therefore set the bourgeoisie intellectuals to write in support of the movement

WTF?

Free Council Communes wrote:-Now that the bourgeoisie intellectuals have become an accepted part of the movement, they are able to derail it

.... what the fuck...

Free Council Communes wrote:By promoting gender roles, women are taught to hate themselves & men, hence becoming a blockade to socialist revolution. Rather than being a socialist movement, feminism has become a form of anti-communist fascism.

What the bloody fucking hell does feminism have to do with any of your commie bullshit?

>modern feminism
>rant about an - admittedly vocal - minority of second wave feminists from the 1960s & 1970s who, forty years later, have either moderated their views, are dead, or thoroughly ignored

OP, please. Don't make it quite this easy to disregard your opinion as blatantly ignorant.

Not this shit again.

Free Council Communes wrote:Modern "feminists", many of whom are on these forums actually despise women & themselves.

Bullshit.

They claim we have a "rape culture", in which it is acceptable to rape people.

See Steubenville.

"Oh, those poor rapists, their careers are ruined!"

Furthermore, they don't give a fuck about the actual problems plaguing women,

In case you'd forgotten, rape is a problem.

they instead attempt to distract the attention of women away from existing sexism in our society,

Do explain.

& towards hating men.

Except they emphasise that patriarchy hurts men as well as women and that patriarchy, not men, is the problem.

Thus is my conclusion:

-Seeing how the feminist movement was winning, they had to derail it

This is just conspiratorial.

-They therefore set the bourgeoisie intellectuals to write in support of the movement

-Now that the bourgeoisie intellectuals have become an accepted part of the movement, they are able to derail it

Except you've not shown that they've derailed anything.

-Derailment is accomplished through the promotion of bullshit theses such as "rape culture"

Rape culture exists. See Steubenville. Burying your head in the sand doesn't stop it existing.

-Rather than being an anti-bigotry movement, feminism has now become a man-hating bigoted movement that only promotes gender roles

Stop.

Explain.

How the fuck does opposing gender roles, which is what feminists tend to do, promote gender roles?

By promoting gender roles, women are taught to hate themselves & men, hence becoming a blockade to socialist revolution.

Except it doesn't promote gender roles at all. And women and men are jointly shown that patriarchy is the enemy, not one another.

Rather than being a socialist movement, feminism has become a form of anti-communist fascism.

Jesus Christ, this is hilarious. It reads like a left-wing Conservapedia article.

Wait.

Hang on.

You believe this?

Oh God.

How?

This is one of the most ill-thought out, strawmanning, convoluted, misogynist, misandrist, bullshit, conspiratorial and intellectually dishonest OP's I've ever seen. Including the Stormfront spam.

Your entire OP is based on three lies; that rape culture doesn't exist, that feminism has been infiltrated and is used to attack men, and that feminism promotes gender roles. It's an irreparably compromised sack of crap with no truth to it; indeed, most of it can be shown to be crap by a) reading the posts of feminists on NSG and b) watching American (and other) media.

Dear God.

I'm not sure whether I want to tear apart the OP or not.

Nazis in Space wrote:>modern feminism
>rant about an - admittedly vocal - minority of second wave feminists from the 1960s & 1970s who, forty years later, have either moderated their views, are dead, or thoroughly ignored

OP, please. Don't make it quite this easy to disregard your opinion as blatantly ignorant.

Not all second-wave feminists were bad, I am a great admirer Simone de Beauvoir. Like me, she was also a admirer of De Sade.

Free Council Communes wrote:I am a true feminist, I believe in the complete abolition of gender roles. Modern "feminists" are actually anti-feminist.

And yet you've provided nothing, nothing at all, showing that the feminists, who you hate for their feminism, support gender roles.

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:

Free Council Communes wrote:I am a true feminist, I believe in the complete abolition of gender roles. Modern "feminists" are actually anti-feminist.

And yet you've provided nothing, nothing at all, showing that the feminists, who you hate for their feminism, support gender roles.

It's not as if, by dismantling rape culture, we're dismantling gender roles too.

Free Council Communes wrote:I am a true feminist, I believe in the complete abolition of gender roles. Modern "feminists" are actually anti-feminist.

Again, a minority does not make the majority. Provide a source that all modern feminists believe in maintaining gender roles.

Individuality-ness wrote:

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:And yet you've provided nothing, nothing at all, showing that the feminists, who you hate for their feminism, support gender roles.

It's not as if, by dismantling rape culture, we're dismantling gender roles too.

I'd argue that you can tackle one while not tackling the other.
Both are problems though.

Individuality-ness wrote:

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:And yet you've provided nothing, nothing at all, showing that the feminists, who you hate for their feminism, support gender roles.

It's not as if, by dismantling rape culture, we're dismantling gender roles too.

Except rape culture doesn't fucking exist, it is just to distract your attention from the real sexism in your society.

Grade A BS totally devoid of truth from our OP.

I would go so far as to say you can't be a proper communist of any sorts without being a feminist. You can't be free as a worker and simultaneously not free because of your sex.

Threlizdun wrote:

Free Council Communes wrote:I am a true feminist, I believe in the complete abolition of gender roles. Modern "feminists" are actually anti-feminist.

Again, a minority does not make the majority. Provide a source that all modern feminists believe in maintaining gender roles.

Not a majority of identifiers, but a majority of groups that represent them, yes.
I've got a post about that somewhere.

Free Council Communes wrote:

Individuality-ness wrote:It's not as if, by dismantling rape culture, we're dismantling gender roles too.

Except rape culture doesn't fucking exist, it is just to distract your attention from the real sexism in your society.

First of all, bullshit, it does.

Second, why the fuck would a movement based around ending sexism try to distract us from sexism?

You're not making any fucking sense, mate.

Ostroeuropa wrote:

Individuality-ness wrote:It's not as if, by dismantling rape culture, we're dismantling gender roles too.

I'd argue that you can tackle one while not tackling the other.
Both are problems though.

I believe that the two of them are connected. Part of rape culture is that men are always the rapists, not the victims, which is related to the idea that men are supposed to be the players and that they always want sex.

Individuality-ness wrote:I'm not sure whether I want to tear apart the OP or not.

Save your keystrokes. It's not worth your, or anyone else's, time.

Free Council Communes wrote:

Individuality-ness wrote:It's not as if, by dismantling rape culture, we're dismantling gender roles too.

Except rape culture doesn't fucking exist, it is just to distract your attention from the real sexism in your society.

Did Steubenville just not happen in your world?

Arglorand wrote:

Free Council Communes wrote:Except rape culture doesn't fucking exist, it is just to distract your attention from the real sexism in your society.

First of all, bullshit, it does.

Second, why the fuck would a movement based around ending sexism try to distract us from sexism?

You're not making any fucking sense, mate.

I have already explained that feminism has been turned around by the bourgeois.