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Postby Free Council Communes » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:22 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
The Joseon Dynasty wrote:When was that survey conducted?

I don't know, I saw it on Facebook.

:rofl: Because facebook is the most reliable source of all.
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Postby Socialist Space Republic » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:23 pm

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The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Actually women have not even been allowed to engage in combat. This only changed a few months ago. An excellent example of a sexist issue "feminists" ignored.


This issue wasn't ignored in any way. There have been several campaigns dating back to the 90s to allow women to engage in combat roles.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:23 pm

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The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:No I will not admit to being wrong your imaginary "rape culture" does not exist. The defense in rape cases will always use what ever they can to get the rapist off of the charge. And I don't see how any one can be a "rape apologist" that makes no sense.

It's not defense attorneys that post disgusting comments in the media that blame rape victims for being "trashy whores", or lament that the lives of people who savagely raped an unconscious girl were ruined and their bright futures destroyed. It's not defense attorneys who talk about how rape victims must have been asking for it, or imply that most rape victims are lying (indeed, they'd probably be disbarred if they did).

Then who does then?
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Postby New Tyran » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:23 pm

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Individuality-ness wrote:I don't know, I saw it on Facebook.

:rofl: Because facebook is the most reliable source of all.


I want to know where you get your sources from...

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Postby The Joseon Dynasty » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:23 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
The Joseon Dynasty wrote:When was that survey conducted?

I don't know, I saw it on Facebook.


Just wondering how representative it is.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:23 pm

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Luveria wrote:Just so everyone can see, this is how seriously the OP takes rape.


I stand by what I said.


Showing that your opinion is worthless, as you don't consider rape inherently wrong, but as a tool to attack people with.

You view rape as a weapon. You view rape as something to attack and scare people with. You view it as something with which you can punish people. You view it as something with which you can gain power over someone.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:23 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:It's not defense attorneys that post disgusting comments in the media that blame rape victims for being "trashy whores", or lament that the lives of people who savagely raped an unconscious girl were ruined and their bright futures destroyed. It's not defense attorneys who talk about how rape victims must have been asking for it, or imply that most rape victims are lying (indeed, they'd probably be disbarred if they did).

Then who does then?


Rapists and people who encourage them.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:24 pm

Free Council Communes wrote:
Luveria wrote:Just so everyone can see, this is how seriously the OP takes rape.


I stand by what I said.

Yes, you've already made it abundantly clear that you are pro-rape.
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Postby Khadgar » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:24 pm

Free Council Communes wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:I don't know, I saw it on Facebook.

:rofl: Because facebook is the most reliable source of all.


Right now I take it vastly more seriously than I do you. Which is the worst thing I've ever said about anyone.

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Postby The UK in Exile » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:24 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:It's not defense attorneys that post disgusting comments in the media that blame rape victims for being "trashy whores", or lament that the lives of people who savagely raped an unconscious girl were ruined and their bright futures destroyed. It's not defense attorneys who talk about how rape victims must have been asking for it, or imply that most rape victims are lying (indeed, they'd probably be disbarred if they did).

Then who does then?


people who aren't held to a professional standard of conduct.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:25 pm

Free Council Communes wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:I don't know, I saw it on Facebook.

:rofl: Because facebook is the most reliable source of all.

http://lisashea.com/lisabase/womensissues/whenisrapeok/
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Postby Khadgar » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:25 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Then who does then?


people who aren't held to a professional standard of conduct.


IE, the US media.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:25 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Free Council Communes wrote:Modern "feminists", many of whom are on these forums actually despise women & themselves. They claim we have a "rape culture", in which it is acceptable to rape people. Furthermore, they don't give a fuck about the actual problems plaguing women, they instead attempt to distract the attention of women away from existing sexism in our society, & towards hating men. Thus is my conclusion:

-Seeing how the feminist movement was winning, they had to derail it

-They therefore set the bourgeoisie intellectuals to write in support of the movement

-Now that the bourgeoisie intellectuals have become an accepted part of the movement, they are able to derail it

-Derailment is accomplished through the promotion of bullshit theses such as "rape culture"

-Rather than being an anti-bigotry movement, feminism has now become a man-hating bigoted movement that only promotes gender roles

By promoting gender roles, women are taught to hate themselves & men, hence becoming a blockade to socialist revolution. Rather than being a socialist movement, feminism has become a form of anti-communist fascism.

What did I just read?

This. The same argument, made again, that was made in threads over the last month or so. Someone who has gotten their idea of masculinity from some dubious sources and when he has found out that these sources are dubious has interpreted that as a threat to his own masculinity and lashed out.

Then has become addicted to the attention.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:25 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Free Council Communes wrote: :rofl: Because facebook is the most reliable source of all.

http://lisashea.com/lisabase/womensissues/whenisrapeok/


What's weirder is, the question has an obvious answer.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:25 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Then who does then?


Rapists and people who encourage them.

Who encourages rapist? Who? there parents their close friends their home town?
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Postby Vareiln » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:26 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Free Council Communes wrote:I stand by what I said.


Showing that your opinion is worthless, as you don't consider rape inherently wrong, but as a tool to attack people with.

You view rape as a weapon. You view rape as something to attack and scare people with. You view it as something with which you can punish people. You view it as something with which you can gain power over someone.

He is truly the textbook definition of a rape-supporter.

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Postby Free Council Communes » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:26 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Free Council Communes wrote:I stand by what I said.


Showing that your opinion is worthless, as you don't consider rape inherently wrong, but as a tool to attack people with.

You view rape as a weapon. You view rape as something to attack and scare people with. You view it as something with which you can punish people. You view it as something with which you can gain power over someone.

Except I'm actually sexually submissive, I have no desire to gain sexual power over anyone.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:26 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Then who does then?


people who aren't held to a professional standard of conduct.

So teenagers and politicians?
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:27 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:


What's weirder is, the question has an obvious answer.

I seriously wonder if there's anyone on NSG who would say that there are other answers than "Never".

... Actually, no, I don't, there's probably a HORRIFIC amount of potential rapists here.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:27 pm

Free Council Communes wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Showing that your opinion is worthless, as you don't consider rape inherently wrong, but as a tool to attack people with.

You view rape as a weapon. You view rape as something to attack and scare people with. You view it as something with which you can punish people. You view it as something with which you can gain power over someone.

Except I'm actually sexually submissive, I have no desire to gain sexual power over anyone.


And yet you support it being used by others to gain power over others.

You might not want to rape someone yourself, but you support those who do.
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Postby Arglorand » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:27 pm

Free Council Communes wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Showing that your opinion is worthless, as you don't consider rape inherently wrong, but as a tool to attack people with.

You view rape as a weapon. You view rape as something to attack and scare people with. You view it as something with which you can punish people. You view it as something with which you can gain power over someone.

Except I'm actually sexually submissive, I have no desire to gain sexual power over anyone.

Then why do you wish to rape anyone?
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Postby Sibirsky » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:27 pm

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The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Yes because they way a woman dresses has worked so well in getting rapist sent free from trials.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/277263.stm

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I mean, even if it is literally impossible to remove Rosa's jeans without the help of Rosa...

*holds gun to Rosa's head*

Take them off.
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Postby Napkiraly » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:27 pm

Free Council Communes wrote:
Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Showing that your opinion is worthless, as you don't consider rape inherently wrong, but as a tool to attack people with.

You view rape as a weapon. You view rape as something to attack and scare people with. You view it as something with which you can punish people. You view it as something with which you can gain power over someone.

Except I'm actually sexually submissive, I have no desire to gain sexual power over anyone.

He means political power.

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Postby New Tyran » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:27 pm

You're making a fool of yourself FCC...

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Postby Free Council Communes » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:28 pm

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Free Council Communes wrote:Except I'm actually sexually submissive, I have no desire to gain sexual power over anyone.


And yet you support it being used by others to gain power over others.

You might not want to rape someone yourself, but you support those who do.

If it is to stop another holocaust, you are damn right it I do!
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