Why Modern "Feminism" is Actually Women-Hating

[CIRONKE]

if you want an example on rape culture just look at cnn's coverage of the steubenville rape case in which they become rape sympathizers

[Luveria]

In your own words:

"Actually, sexual acts should be considered consensual unless one partner directly & verbally objects to said sexual act."

You are a rapist waiting to happen.

If you disagree with me, then you must believe women cannot be trusted with their own bodies, hence you hate women.

I disagree with you believing unconscious women can't get raped because they didn't say no. Do I hate women for not agreeing with your advocacy of rape?

[Cannot think of a name]

As was made perfectly clear on the other thread regarding Rape, OP does not understand what is meant by "Rape Culture," and insists upon strawmaning whenever the attempt is made to explain it to him.

Or, has found an easy way to get a rise out of NSG and, like a 9 year old who accidentally got an adult to laugh at a party, is going to keep going to that well again and again no matter how dry it gets.

Because this is the same recycled nonsense from every other thread in the last month in a half on the exact same subject. Even the gun control threads have developments in the real world to spice up the same back and forth, this discussion? Not so much.

But every misogyny thread goes hundreds of pages deep within a week. And all they have to do is say the exact same crap again.

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

Yes because they way a woman dresses has worked so well in getting rapist sent free from trials.

They would just lock him up longer if he said something like that.

Yes I know but apparently that's the excuses that "rape culture" uses.

[Khadgar]

I'm sure you'll object to the feminist rag I'm linking to, but:

Wage gap for US women persists despite jobs increase

Ya how about no that "study" was from 09 to 11 so it's outdated and narrowing the jobs women can get? Yes women are "forced" into gender role based jobs like teaching or nursing even tho now women can join the military or get what ever job they want if they qualify for it.

That's your best retort? A two year old study is out of date? Just admit you're fucking wrong and move on.

[Free Council Communes]

I'm sure you'll object to the feminist rag I'm linking to, but:

Wage gap for US women persists despite jobs increase

Ya how about no that "study" was from 09 to 11 so it's outdated and narrowing the jobs women can get? Yes women are "forced" into gender role based jobs like teaching or nursing even tho now women can join the military or get what ever job they want if they qualify for it.

Actually women have not even been allowed to engage in combat. This only changed a few months ago. An excellent example of a sexist issue "feminists" ignored.

[Liriena]

If you disagree with me, then you must believe women cannot be trusted with their own bodies, hence you hate women.

I disagree with you believing unconscious women can't get raped because they didn't say no. Do I hate women for not agreeing with your advocacy of rape?

Yes...Stop trying to decide for unconscious women, feminazi! If they are not conscious, they obviously want sex.

[Individuality-ness]

They would just lock him up longer if he said something like that.

Yes I know but apparently that's the excuses that "rape culture" uses.

This isn't rape culture?

[Free Council Communes]

If you disagree with me, then you must believe women cannot be trusted with their own bodies, hence you hate women.

I disagree with you believing unconscious women can't get raped because they didn't say no. Do I hate women for not agreeing with your advocacy of rape?

I have already said that having sex with a sleeping woman is rape unless she specifically said you could fuck her while she sleeps.

[Liriena]

Ya how about no that "study" was from 09 to 11 so it's outdated and narrowing the jobs women can get? Yes women are "forced" into gender role based jobs like teaching or nursing even tho now women can join the military or get what ever job they want if they qualify for it.

Actually women have not even been allowed to engage in combat. This only changed a few months ago. An excellent example of a sexist issue "feminists" ignored.

You need a source for that, you know. I won't take your strawman of feminism seriously just because you spew it.

[Trotskylvania]

Ya how about no that "study" was from 09 to 11 so it's outdated and narrowing the jobs women can get? Yes women are "forced" into gender role based jobs like teaching or nursing even tho now women can join the military or get what ever job they want if they qualify for it.

Actually women have not even been allowed to engage in combat. This only changed a few months ago. An excellent example of a sexist issue "feminists" ignored.

Except they didn't ignore it. Though I'm sure a so-called Marxist-Luxemburgist like yourself would forgive them for being reluctant to support the imperialist-capitalist war machine.

[Forsakia]

I'd like to mostly ignore the OP and link to this article about whether feminism is too focused on the middle and upper classes (and I'd suggest without evidence that the movement would be disproportionately dominated by such women) and that hence it has benefited those groups much more than working class women.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/ ... king-class

[Liriena]

Actually women have not even been allowed to engage in combat. This only changed a few months ago. An excellent example of a sexist issue "feminists" ignored.

Except they didn't ignore it. Though I'm sure a so-called Marxist-Luxemburgist like yourself would forgive them for being reluctant to support the imperialist-capitalist war machine.

A few far-left brains just exploded, I think.

[Zweite Alaje]

I disagree with you believing unconscious women can't get raped because they didn't say no. Do I hate women for not agreeing with your advocacy of rape?

Yes...Stop trying to decide for unconscious women, feminazi! If they are not conscious, they obviously want sex.

I swear this Free Council guy is the most fun wannabe socialist we had in a while.

[Cannot think of a name]

Ya how about no that "study" was from 09 to 11 so it's outdated and narrowing the jobs women can get? Yes women are "forced" into gender role based jobs like teaching or nursing even tho now women can join the military or get what ever job they want if they qualify for it.

That's your best retort? A two year old study is out of date? Just admit you're fucking wrong and move on.

I'd be interested to find out what was supposed to have happened in those last two years that made it all better.


...fuck, I'm getting sucked in again...

[Trotskylvania]

I disagree with you believing unconscious women can't get raped because they didn't say no. Do I hate women for not agreeing with your advocacy of rape?

I have already said that having sex with a sleeping woman is rape unless she specifically said you could fuck her while she sleeps.

Then you've contradicted yourself.

So tell me, which is it? Do they have to explicitly say no, or don't they?

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

Ya how about no that "study" was from 09 to 11 so it's outdated and narrowing the jobs women can get? Yes women are "forced" into gender role based jobs like teaching or nursing even tho now women can join the military or get what ever job they want if they qualify for it.

That's your best retort? A two year old study is out of date? Just admit you're fucking wrong and move on.

No I will not admit to being wrong your imaginary "rape culture" does not exist. The defense in rape cases will always use what ever they can to get the rapist off of the charge. And I don't see how any one can be a "rape apologist" that makes no sense.

[Free Council Communes]

I'd like to mostly ignore the OP and link to this article about whether feminism is too focused on the middle and upper classes (and I'd suggest without evidence that the movement would be disproportionately dominated by such women) and that hence it has benefited those groups much more than working class women.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/ ... king-class

Exactly.

[Luveria]

I disagree with you believing unconscious women can't get raped because they didn't say no. Do I hate women for not agreeing with your advocacy of rape?

I have already said that having sex with a sleeping woman is rape unless she specifically said you could fuck her while she sleeps.

You're saying if you attempt to have sex with a woman it's not rape unless she says no. You're a rapist.

[Ostroeuropa]

I'd like to mostly ignore the OP and link to this article about whether feminism is too focused on the middle and upper classes (and I'd suggest without evidence that the movement would be disproportionately dominated by such women) and that hence it has benefited those groups much more than working class women.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/ ... king-class

To be fair, that's typical of most civil rights movements.

Who earns enough cash to have spare time to go around politicking?
Who speaks the language of the local bigwigs?

Etc.

[New Tyran]

Feminism is flawed in many ways as is every religion or 'cult' but I disagree with your statement.

[The Rich Port]

I like the casual sideswipe at "bourgeoisie intellectuals" before steering a straight into misogyny. its like a having a coke with your burger king. to continue the metaphor, its something thats been watered down till no trace remains of the orginal flavour, package alongside something thats disgusting, impossible to swallow and you'd have to be a fool to buy.

Anyhooser, yeah, OP is spewing bullshit.

/thread

[Free Council Communes]

I have already said that having sex with a sleeping woman is rape unless she specifically said you could fuck her while she sleeps.

Then you've contradicted yourself.

So tell me, which is it? Do they have to explicitly say no, or don't they?

Read what I actually said. It's not rape unless she withdraws consent, unless she is incapable of doing so.

[Napkiraly]

Modern "feminists", many of whom are on these forums actually despise women & themselves. They claim we have a "rape culture", in which it is acceptable to rape people. Furthermore, they don't give a fuck about the actual problems plaguing women, they instead attempt to distract the attention of women away from existing sexism in our society, & towards hating men. Thus is my conclusion:

-Seeing how the feminist movement was winning, they had to derail it

-They therefore set the bourgeoisie intellectuals to write in support of the movement

-Now that the bourgeoisie intellectuals have become an accepted part of the movement, they are able to derail it

-Derailment is accomplished through the promotion of bullshit theses such as "rape culture"

-Rather than being an anti-bigotry movement, feminism has now become a man-hating bigoted movement that only promotes gender roles

By promoting gender roles, women are taught to hate themselves & men, hence becoming a blockade to socialist revolution. Rather than being a socialist movement, feminism has become a form of anti-communist fascism.

What did I just read?

[Khadgar]

That's your best retort? A two year old study is out of date? Just admit you're fucking wrong and move on.

No I will not admit to being wrong your imaginary "rape culture" does not exist. The defense in rape cases will always use what ever they can to get the rapist off of the charge. And I don't see how any one can be a "rape apologist" that makes no sense.

Changing the subject. Admit you were wrong the pay gap still exists.