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Postby Herrebrugh » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:03 am

ugh i don't care a damn :palm:
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Postby Tunizcha » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:06 am

Noooo!

Wait, I don't care.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:07 am

Herrebrugh wrote:ugh i don't care a damn :palm:

You cared enough to open the thread and post. :palm:
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Postby Tocrowkia » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:09 am

Tunizcha wrote:Noooo!

Wait, I don't care.


So did this guy. :lol2:
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Postby Delator » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:23 am

Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:
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Delator wrote:Proof once again that Americas third crappiest sport (after NASCAR and American Football) needs a salary cap.


Fixed, though I would like to know your reasons why?

And baseball is quite an entertaining game to watch especially after midnight as you lie in bed and drift off to sleep.


Large market teams such as the Yankees (Red Sox, Dodgers, Giants, etc) will always have an advantage in the free-agent market over small market teams, such as the Kansas City Royals, because they have more money, and can afford to outbid any other team if they really want a player.

Even when a small market team manages to build itself up via the minor league farm system, (the Milwaukee Brewers being a goo d recent example) it's best players inevitably sign to large market teams when it's time for a new contract (see C.C. Sabathia)

The NFL is the most popular sport in the US because of it's salary cap, which ensures that every team has an equal chance at attracting talent, at least from a dollar perspective. The NFL has it's top tier of teams change from season to season, and as a result the fans of a team can be confident that if it ain't happening now, it will happen soon (with the exception of Detroit and Cleveland) :p

MLB, meanwhile, trots out the Yankees vs the Red Sox every other weekend on national TV and expects the rest of the country to give a shit. They don't, because their team has sucked for years and they've moved on to some other sport where their favorite team has a chance to actually compete.

The NFLs collective bargaining agreement is set to expire soon, and it is likely that the salary cap will be eliminated or severely limited. If that happens, you can expect five or six teams (in large markets) to permanently rise above the rest, and small market teams (like the Chiefs, Packers and Bills) to quietly fade away.


So when the Yanks lost to the Marlins, or the D-Backs in the World Series, what was that?


Bad coaching. :p

But seriously...that was a one-time occurence for Florida and Arizona....six and eight years past, respectively. The Yankess are competing for the AL pennant nearly every year. What did Florida or Arizona do that was notable in the last few years? Nothing...their talent all left for larger contracts with teams in bigger markets.

Let's look at the last ten years...

World Series appearances

NY Yankees - 5
Boston - 2
Philadelphia - 2
St. Louis* - 2
Atlanta
NY Mets
Arizona*
San Fran
Chicago W.Sox
Houston
Detroit
Florida
Anaheim (LA)
Colorado*
Tampa Bay*

* = "small market"

St Louis is the only "small market" team to make the Series more than once in the last ten years. Boston and Philly have only had success in the last few seasons, as they strive to match the Yankees in payroll.

While that's roughly half the teams in the MLB, the only small market AL team to make it was Tampa Bay last season. The Yankess promptly bought the best pitcher in baseball from the small market Brewers, and whaddya know.

The NL has parody only because the large market teams like LA and SF can't seem to find an owner willing to shell out the money to bury the competition, ala NY and Boston.

Meanwhile, in the NFL, over ten seasons...

New England - 4
Pittsburgh* - 2
NY Giants - 2
St. Louis* - 2
Denver*
Tenneesee*
Baltimore*
Oakland
Carolina*
Philadelphia
Seattle
Chicago
Indianapolis*
Arizona*

Again, roughly half the league, but hey look! Small markets competing on a regular basis!

I can guarantee if the CBA eliminates the salary cap in the NFL that you won't see teams like Baltimore, Carolina, or Arizona in the Super Bowl again any time soon. Just like teams like Milwaukee, Cincinnati, and Seattle continually fail to have post-season success of any sort in the MLB.

New England's NFL success is either the result of excellent coaching and a "team-first" clubhouse atmosphere, or cheating...depending on your POV. :p
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Postby Tocrowkia » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:49 am

The Denver Broncos certainly aren't small market. I think they're number six in total franchise value.
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Postby Delator » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:20 am

Tocrowkia wrote:The Denver Broncos certainly aren't small market. I think they're number six in total franchise value.


Franchise value and market size are not the same thing.
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Postby Valanora » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:58 am

Good riddance. Give me back House and Bones tyvm.

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Postby Corntownian » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:00 am

Valanora wrote:And just for the record: Association Football > Hockey > Basketball > Aussie Rules > College Gridiron > Rugby > Curling > Lacrosse > Baseball > Professional Gridiron


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Postby Lord Tothe » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:10 am

I don't like the NY Yankees. Let's just say I'm immediately a fan of whatever team is playing against them even if it's the biggest rival of my favorite team.
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Postby Blargaflarg » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:16 am

Blackhelm Confederacy wrote:27 BABY!!!!!!!!1

Meh. Bought themselves another ring.

Wake me when teams have a relatively equal shot financially.

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:13 am

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Postby Callisdrun » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:21 am

THIS JUST IN:

New York Yankees win the world series!
Pope Benedict XVI confirms that yes, he is still a member of the Roman Catholic Church!
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Postby Blouman Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:31 am

Callisdrun wrote:THIS JUST IN:

New York Yankees win the world series!
Pope Benedict XVI confirms that yes, he is still a member of the Roman Catholic Church!
Bears continue to defecate in forested areas!


Come now the Phillies had a chance.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:33 am

I thought this happened last week.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:36 am

Desperate Measures wrote:I thought this happened last week.


That might have been the pennant you are thinking of when they beat the Angels.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:40 am

Blouman Empire wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:I thought this happened last week.


That might have been the pennant you are thinking of when they beat the Angels.

That was a good win. They should have just retired while they were on top. Its like the Simpsons now.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:16 am

Desperate Measures wrote:
Blouman Empire wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:I thought this happened last week.


That might have been the pennant you are thinking of when they beat the Angels.

That was a good win. They should have just retired while they were on top. Its like the Simpsons now.


What? Once you win the pennant you go into the World Series.
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Postby Cassadaigua » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:27 am

Congrats to the Yankees; from a Red Sox fan.

Now I'm gonna be sick.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:55 am

Blouman Empire wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:ugh i don't care a damn :palm:

You cared enough to open the thread and post. :palm:


ok you've got me :p
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Postby Rhodmhire » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:20 am

Irrelevant.
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Postby Anti-Social Darwinism » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:58 pm

Damn Yankees.

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