Should humans use population control?

[Robarya]

Which in turn leads to there not being enough women for all the males to get married, which in turn leads to even less children. See how it all works out?

Of course. But considering China want to keep the size of its population under control, that's a positive effect.

[Callisdrun]

Which in turn leads to there not being enough women for all the males to get married, which in turn leads to even less children. See how it all works out?

Of course. But considering China want to keep the size of its population under control, that's a positive effect.

Yes, hence "works out."

Extreme methods... but they accomplish exactly what they set out to do.

[Brajh]

Why not kill off people over 70 years of age?
Its just as bad, but this way our senior class citizens won't out populate our working class citizens which won't result in the working class inevitably becoming slaves to the senior class. Face it, people are living longer and they have to be looked after by working class citizens and if they start restricting new borns then eventually there will be a tiny working class and a huge useless senior class.
Unless of course you make the elderly do backbreaking labor, but this will result in a less efficient work force.
Just my opinion, I think its more sensible than birth control.

A better alternative would be to get rid of the massive transfer of wealth going to the elderly.

So basically make them work aswell.

we don't have to make them work, but dismembering useless policies like social security and medicare would be a good step.

Yes. They need to save more their whole lives, instead of being so frivolous and buying 2,000 sq. ft. houses, 2 cars, and tons of cloths and other products when there are only 2 people living together. If Americans spent their whole lives saving like they're doing right now, we wouldn't need social security.

Well, I'm off to bed. I can't believe how fast I've become semi-addicted to general.

You can't tell people how to spend their money.

[Cabra West]

It's called "contraception"...

[Geniasis]

When it comes to physical labor, girls are not "just as good" as boys. The male body is inherently superior in terms of strength.

And the female body is inherently superior in terms of endurance.

Was there a point here that I'm missing, or what?

Besides, such a process would take generations and be very pricey. It is more realistic to simply have the one child policy and accept that there will be an unfortunate side-effect of female children being killed.

Yeah, you know what? Fuck that. I'll pass on the misogynistic purge, thank you.

[Robarya]

And the female body is inherently superior in terms of endurance.

Was there a point here that I'm missing, or what?

Irrelevant; the male body is still overall superior.

Yeah, you know what? Fuck that. I'll pass on the misogynistic purge, thank you.

I assume you are implicating hate towards females when you use the term "misogynistic" here? The farmers that kill female babies don't do it out of hate; they do it because they need a boy to help out with the chores. The cases where female babies are killed are individual tragedies, but that's sometimes what it takes to do things correctly.

[Maurepas]

And the female body is inherently superior in terms of endurance.

Was there a point here that I'm missing, or what?

Irrelevant; the male body is still overall superior.

I think thats subjective, and inherently unprovable...Even the original statement is only a generality...

[Hamilay]

I assume you are implicating hate towards females when you use the term "misogynistic" here? The farmers that kill female babies don't do it out of hate; they do it because they need a boy to help out with the chores.

Err no, people in rural areas are allowed to have a second child if their first is female.

[Callisdrun]

When it comes to physical labor, girls are not "just as good" as boys. The male body is inherently superior in terms of strength.

And the female body is inherently superior in terms of endurance.

Was there a point here that I'm missing, or what?

Besides, such a process would take generations and be very pricey. It is more realistic to simply have the one child policy and accept that there will be an unfortunate side-effect of female children being killed.

Yeah, you know what? Fuck that. I'll pass on the misogynistic purge, thank you.

I don't think there's any hope for this one. It won't matter how many facts you or anyone presents. He'll insist that men = superior.

[Robarya]

I think thats subjective, and inherently unprovable...Even the original statement is only a generality...

Within the human species, the male body is superior when it comes to performing physical tasks. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much feminist bullshit.

[Callisdrun]

Why not kill off people over 70 years of age?
Its just as bad, but this way our senior class citizens won't out populate our working class citizens which won't result in the working class inevitably becoming slaves to the senior class. Face it, people are living longer and they have to be looked after by working class citizens and if they start restricting new borns then eventually there will be a tiny working class and a huge useless senior class.
Unless of course you make the elderly do backbreaking labor, but this will result in a less efficient work force.
Just my opinion, I think its more sensible than birth control.

A better alternative would be to get rid of the massive transfer of wealth going to the elderly.

So basically make them work aswell.

we don't have to make them work, but dismembering useless policies like social security and medicare would be a good step.

Yes. They need to save more their whole lives, instead of being so frivolous and buying 2,000 sq. ft. houses, 2 cars, and tons of cloths and other products when there are only 2 people living together. If Americans spent their whole lives saving like they're doing right now, we wouldn't need social security.

Well, I'm off to bed. I can't believe how fast I've become semi-addicted to general.

You can't tell people how to spend their money.

Yes you can.

Spend your money on crack.

See? There, I just told you how to spend your money. However, you are under no obligation to listen.

[Callisdrun]

I think thats subjective, and inherently unprovable...Even the original statement is only a generality...

Within the human species, the male body is superior when it comes to performing physical tasks. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much feminist bullshit.

Within the human species, the female body is superior when it comes to endurance. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much misogynist bullshit.

[Maurepas]

Yes you can.

Spend your money on crack.

See? There, I just told you how to spend your money. However, you are under no obligation to listen.

But...now that you mention it...this might be a good idea, with no life altering consequences at all.......

[Robarya]

I don't think there's any hope for this one. It won't matter how many facts you or anyone presents. He'll insist that men = superior.

It appears you are trying to twist my words. I said physically superior, to be precise. On a mental level males and females are about equal, although there are differences there too.

[Maurepas]

I think thats subjective, and inherently unprovable...Even the original statement is only a generality...

Within the human species, the male body is superior when it comes to performing physical tasks. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much feminist bullshit.

Within the human species, the female body is superior when it comes to endurance. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much misogynist bullshit.

I was tempted to just post a laughing smiley at that one, but your response was much better,

[Robarya]

Within the human species, the female body is superior when it comes to endurance. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much misogynist bullshit.

Maybe that's the case in this particular field. Frankly I don't care enough to read up on details. Overall the male body is superior when it comes to physical tasks, like I have already stated.

[Maurepas]

Within the human species, the female body is superior when it comes to endurance. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much misogynist bullshit.

Maybe that's the case in this particular field. Frankly I don't care enough to read up on details. Overall the male body is superior when it comes to physical tasks, like I have already stated.

Would not endurance be an integral part of physical tasks?

[Callisdrun]

I think thats subjective, and inherently unprovable...Even the original statement is only a generality...

Within the human species, the male body is superior when it comes to performing physical tasks. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much feminist bullshit.

Within the human species, the female body is superior when it comes to endurance. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much misogynist bullshit.

I was tempted to just post a laughing smiley at that one, but your response was much better,

Thank you, I aim to please. Well, no I don't, but sometimes I end up doing so on accident.

Within the human species, the female body is superior when it comes to endurance. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much misogynist bullshit.

Maybe that's the case in this particular field. Frankly I don't care enough to read up on details. Overall the male body is superior when it comes to physical tasks, like I have already stated.

Would not endurance be an integral part of physical tasks?

Don't bother, logic will not work on this one. Hence why I just used the same argument style against him that he was using.

[Robarya]

Would not endurance be an integral part of physical tasks?

It is, but that's hardly an argument that men and women are physically equal. It is almost as silly as claiming that males and females are physically equal because females can also build muscle like males, yet the people who come with these arguments tend to ignore that it is much easier for a male to build muscle and that the male body has more potential for bodybuilding.

[Robarya]

Don't bother, logic will not work on this one. Hence why I just used the same argument style against him that he was using.

If you by logic refer to accepting false knowledge to promote silly ideas such as equality, then no, it will not work on me.

[Geniasis]

Within the human species, the female body is superior when it comes to endurance. There's nothing subjective about this. If you deny this, I lean to think that you have been fed too much misogynist bullshit.

Maybe that's the case in this particular field. Frankly I don't care enough to read up on details. Overall the male body is superior when it comes to physical tasks, like I have already stated.

"It is true because I have said it is true."

Yeeeeah, you're gonna have to do better than that.

[Robarya]

"It is true because I have said it is true."

Yeeeeah, you're gonna have to do better than that.

It is true because it is true. Simple as that.

It is up to any idiot who seriously believes that females are inherently physically equal to males to prove their point.

[Hamilay]

"It is true because I have said it is true."

Yeeeeah, you're gonna have to do better than that.

It is true because it is true. Simple as that.

Quality post here.

[Geniasis]

It is true because it is true. Simple as that.

It is up to any idiot who seriously believes that females are inherently physically equal to males to prove their point.

You made the claim, so it's your responsibility to back it up. For starters you could define what attributes are optimal for physical labor. Many of us believe endurance falls under that umbrella, yet you seem to disagree.

So clearly you need to elaborate.

[The Scandinvans]

Many person's rational is the assumption that government limits are effective. They are not. The only truly effective limits on population growth are economics ones.