Too fat to fight

[Cloud Surfers]

http://www.military.com/news/article/ar ... 6032320397

Ladies and Gentlemen (and others) of the interweb, I submit this for a raucous and ranting topic of discourse and look forward to hearing what sides you all take.

Just to echo the sentiments of others regarding other threads: this can't end well, and it will probably be shut down quickly.

[JuNii]

http://www.military.com/news/article/are-too-many-too-fat-to-fight.html?col=1186032320397

Ladies and Gentlemen (and others) of the interweb, I submit this for a raucous and ranting topic of discourse and look forward to hearing what sides you all take.

Just to echo the sentiments of others regarding other threads: this can't end well, and it will probably be shut down quickly.

there are physcial aspects to military service that being in some form of shape (outside of round) is required.

[Yootopia]

Oh fucking no, only 20 million young Americans have the physical characteristics necessary to fight off invaders... am quite sure this is enough.

That said, lose some weight, America.

[H N Fiddlebottoms VIII]

If it came down to a draft and needing every last man, they'd just have to go back to the reopen the Fatties section of Boot camp. These days, the military is more selective about fitness and most other things because they can afford to be picky (shitty economy->few job opportunities for people leaving school->people signing up for the only paycheck in sight).
Similarly, things like drug use and criminal records can be ignored, if warm bodies are desperately needed.

[Barringtonia]

If it came down to a draft and needing every last man, they'd just have to go back to the reopen the Fatties section of Boot camp. These days, the military is more selective about fitness and most other things because they can afford to be picky (shitty economy->few job opportunities for people leaving school->people signing up for the only paycheck in sight).
Similarly, things like drug use and criminal records can be ignored, if warm bodies are desperately needed.

...but not littering.

[Maurepas]

They wouldnt let me in because of that, the requirements they want are rather ludicrous tbqh, I could meet every other physical challenge, but they said my BMI was too high,

[Northern Delmarva]

They wouldnt let me in because of that, the requirements they want are rather ludicrous tbqh, I could meet every other physical challenge, but they said my BMI was too high,

What's your BMI?

[Rhodmhire]

Good, I'm glad I can't do push-ups or run or anything.

The Internet doesn't require any of those things, and that's why I love it so.

Exercise is for the weak, kind of ironic.

Very ironic.

[Maurepas]

They wouldnt let me in because of that, the requirements they want are rather ludicrous tbqh, I could meet every other physical challenge, but they said my BMI was too high,

What's your BMI?

According to the calculator, 33.7, but I was actually in slightly better shape back then...

[Rhodmhire]

Oh fucking no, only 20 million young Americans have the physical characteristics necessary to fight off invaders... am quite sure this is enough.

That said, lose some weight, America.

No, I don't exercise yet I'm quite content being underweight.

I'll never get fat, no matter how much shit I eat, or how long I spend living on the Internet.

Exercise is for the weak.

[Getbrett]

They wouldnt let me in because of that, the requirements they want are rather ludicrous tbqh, I could meet every other physical challenge, but they said my BMI was too high,

What's your BMI?

According to the calculator, 33.7, but I was actually in slightly better shape back then...

Then it is perfectly reasonable for them to reject you, assuming you are not a professional bodybuilder. A BMI of >30 is medically obese.

[Fassitude]

According to the calculator, 33.7, but I was actually in slightly better shape back then...

33,7? Ouch. That's... not... ok. Unless you're all muscle, but I doubt that.

[Fassitude]

Then it is perfectly reasonable for them to reject you, assuming you are not a professional bodybuilder. A BMI of >30 is medically obese.

Aesthetically, too.

[Yootopia]

They wouldnt let me in because of that, the requirements they want are rather ludicrous tbqh, I could meet every other physical challenge, but they said my BMI was too high,

What's your BMI?

According to the calculator, 33.7, but I was actually in slightly better shape back then...

That's pretty high to say the least.

[Maurepas]

According to the calculator, 33.7, but I was actually in slightly better shape back then...

33,7? Ouch. That's... not... ok. Unless you're all muscle, but I doubt that.

*shrugs* I workout and have a bit of muscle mass, football team and all that, and I can do pushups, situps, etc...Im just fat while I do them,

[Fassitude]

*shrugs* I workout and have a bit of muscle mass, football team and all that, and I can do pushups, situps, etc...Im just fat while I do them,

Yeah, but at 30+ "fat" becomes an understatement, I'm afraid. No homo... I mean, no offence.

[Maurepas]

*shrugs* I workout and have a bit of muscle mass, football team and all that, and I can do pushups, situps, etc...Im just fat while I do them,

Yeah, but at 30+ "fat" becomes an understatement, I'm afraid. No homo... I mean, no offence.

Well, I am 6'3", I didnt think it was that bad anyway...

[Null-A Renegades]

It should also be considered that in the event of the USA losing a major war, all the fit people would be dead and then it really would be a nation of obesity. Suppose then than the population drops to zero because none of the attractive females who survived (presumably because they for one reason or another didn't fight) didn't want to reproduce with the obese leftovers, or were raped beyond fertility by whoever beat the USA...

DON'T BE FAT. After all, you don't want to lose your way of life, do you? With enough people you might be able to win...

[being fat isn't a way of life... it's a way of slow death]

[Dark Side Messiahs]

Its not at all surprising to see that information but the military needs to start not being so picky. Fatties can still do other jobs in the military, they don't need to solely fight.

[Yootopia]

Its not at all surprising to see that information but the military needs to start not being so picky. Fatties can still do other jobs in the military, they don't need to solely fight.

Erm the fact that they have several million non-lardarses suggests that they don't even need all of the fit people who also don't take drugs from time to time or whatever.

[H N Fiddlebottoms VIII]

If it came down to a draft and needing every last man, they'd just have to go back to the reopen the Fatties section of Boot camp. These days, the military is more selective about fitness and most other things because they can afford to be picky (shitty economy->few job opportunities for people leaving school->people signing up for the only paycheck in sight).
Similarly, things like drug use and criminal records can be ignored, if warm bodies are desperately needed.

...but not littering.

Father-rapers are okay, however.

Its not at all surprising to see that information but the military needs to start not being so picky. Fatties can still do other jobs in the military, they don't need to solely fight.

The military has finally started meeting it's recruiting quotas (something that I don't believe has happened since the Vietnam debacle and draft was over), so they can afford to get even pickier.
Now, philosophically, I'm in favor of the Army taking in anyone. If you're too fat, they throw you in a special fatties boot camp and see if they can't wring 120 pounds worth of Twinkies out of you through 6 months of intense training. However, I can understand that such is impractical, pricey and not necessary for the defense.

[Greed and Death]

they have programs for those who are eager to join the service but are over weight.
Some are just a recruiter exercising with you, others involve your NCO being 100% control of your diet and exercise schedule.

[Dyakovo]

Its not at all surprising to see that information but the military needs to start not being so picky. Fatties can still do other jobs in the military, they don't need to solely fight.

They should be physically capable of it. I am of the opinion that every branch of the U.S. armed forces should adopt the thinking of the U.S. Marine Corps: Every Marine's a rifleman. In other words, every one should have to go through infantry training regardless of what their MOS is.

[Greed and Death]

Its not at all surprising to see that information but the military needs to start not being so picky. Fatties can still do other jobs in the military, they don't need to solely fight.

They should be physically capable of it. I am of the opinion that every branch of the U.S. armed forces should adopt the thinking of the U.S. Marine Corps: Every Marine's a rifleman. In other words, every one should have to go through infantry training regardless of what their MOS is.

We do, you marines are just the only ones that repeat it like a slogan day in and day out.
and there is one exception even in the Marine corps the Chaplin.

[Dyakovo]

They wouldnt let me in because of that, the requirements they want are rather ludicrous tbqh, I could meet every other physical challenge, but they said my BMI was too high,

What's your BMI?

According to the calculator, 33.7, but I was actually in slightly better shape back then...

What branch did you try to enlist in? My BMI was 34.8 when I enlisted in the Army (By the end of basic training it was 27.5). The weight I was at at that my time would have meant that I wouldn't have been able to enlist in the Marines (although I also could not enlist in the Marines because I was 17 and had not completed school yet).