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VICTIM OF JOLT ONLINE GAMING- EARTH:2025 CLOSING DOWN

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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:18 pm

Kryozerkia wrote:And this surprises you how? Jolt is run by a bunch of gutless unimaginative, humour-deprived accountants who are no better than a bunch of snivelling Ferengi. Let 'em keep their gold slips of latinum, but they will never see the divine treasury because they failed to properly follow the rules of acquisition.


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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:20 pm

Taken from what appears to be a recent wikipedia edit:
Sadly, on November 4, 2009, the evil overlords at OMAC announced their intentions to kill the game they'ed been neglecting for years.


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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:04 pm

Kryozerkia wrote:And this surprises you how? Jolt is run by a bunch of gutless unimaginative, humour-deprived accountants who are no better than a bunch of snivelling Ferengi. Let 'em keep their gold slips of latinum, but they will never see the divine treasury because they failed to properly follow the rules of acquisition.


It doesnt suprise us... We've been expecting Jolt to close us down for more than a year, and the original owner made comments indicating he hated the Earth:2025 community years and years and years ago, maybe even before NationStates. The original rumor is that Earth was only sold to them because the original owner wouldnt sell them the game them the game they really wanted without adding this in as a package deal. But actually... killing it... it's like jumping off a cliff. You expect to jump off the cliff, and then you are actually confronted with the cliff and have to look over the edge...
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Postby Erich Dahmer » Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:12 pm

Bandwidth isn't free. If Jolt didn't want to carry the game anymore then they should have every right to take the contract to arbitration to terminate it. Jolt is a business and businesses need to make money to survive. Stop expecting everyone else to work for free just so you can have a good time.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:08 am

If I were Jolt right now, I'd give Earth: 2025 to the players. Now, I might have rarely heard of the game but, profit, size, whatever... it's still a community.

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Postby Maurepas » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:18 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:If I were Jolt right now, I'd give Earth: 2025 to the players. Now, I might have rarely heard of the game but, profit, size, whatever... it's still a community.

Unfortunately, not everyone is as generous with their intellectual property as Max...

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Postby Kanabia » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:26 am

That's a shame, I used to play it a long time ago and it wasn't bad.

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Postby Maurepas » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:29 am

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:And this surprises you how? Jolt is run by a bunch of gutless unimaginative, humour-deprived accountants who are no better than a bunch of snivelling Ferengi. Let 'em keep their gold slips of latinum, but they will never see the divine treasury because they failed to properly follow the rules of acquisition.


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the same fuckers that fucked over NS2.

BRING BACK NS2!

Meh, NS2 sucked, the new features didnt work, and they made you pay for things you got here for free...the only differences was a little history section, and some nice graphics...

Nothing that NS1+NSTracker+NSWiki doesnt already do just fine...in fact the latter two do it much better....

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Postby Icezealand » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:38 am

R.I.P. Earth, how I will miss hoarding nuclear missiles and sending them en masse at the person above me on the penultimate day of the round. I hope Utopia doesn't die next.
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Postby The Scandinvans » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:57 am

Maurepas wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:If I were Jolt right now, I'd give Earth: 2025 to the players. Now, I might have rarely heard of the game but, profit, size, whatever... it's still a community.

Unfortunately, not everyone is as generous with their intellectual property as Max...
To note, we of NS should buy Max's book in order to properly thank him. Now if I could only find one of his books...
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:10 am

Maurepas wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:If I were Jolt right now, I'd give Earth: 2025 to the players. Now, I might have rarely heard of the game but, profit, size, whatever... it's still a community.

Unfortunately, not everyone is as generous with their intellectual property as Max...

To be honest I was thinking about a possible incorporation of Earth 2025 into NationStates (but then some changes would have to be made to avoid copyright infringement). Or I could invite them over here, making NationStates a successor to Earth 2025.

Just my thoughts there.

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Postby Reploid Productions » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:15 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:If I were Jolt right now, I'd give Earth: 2025 to the players. Now, I might have rarely heard of the game but, profit, size, whatever... it's still a community.

Unfortunately, not everyone is as generous with their intellectual property as Max...

To be honest I was thinking about a possible incorporation of Earth 2025 into NationStates (but then some changes would have to be made to avoid copyright infringement). Or I could invite them over here, making NationStates a successor to Earth 2025.

Just my thoughts there.

Well, I don't think Max would necessarily want to incorporate Earth 2025 stuff into Nationstates on any sort of official level. Too much code work and I don't necessarily think that the two games are particularly compatible, what with NS lacking war and an oft-stated note that it won't be added.

But if a bunch of Earth 2025 players want to make NS a new home, I don't see anybody here telling them to GTFO ;)
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:26 am

Well, I took the liberty of adding my support for the Earth 2025 community. ;)
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Postby Call to power » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:19 am

to be fair though the game wasn't exactly a smash hit

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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:26 am

Fuck, this is terrible. Earth was a fantastic slayer of highschool lunchtimes.

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Postby Ordo Mallus » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:27 am

If they're not going to make a profit on the game they have to close it down. its like me opening a 64 slot CSS zmod server and not having any way to pay for it. Don't get all pissy bout someone shutting down a game because they can't afford to keep it running anymore.
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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:31 am

Ordo Mallus wrote:If they're not going to make a profit on the game they have to close it down. its like me opening a 64 slot CSS zmod server and not having any way to pay for it. Don't get all pissy bout someone shutting down a game because they can't afford to keep it running anymore.

Economics don't affect the fact that Earth was/is awesome and shutting it down sucks monkey dongs.

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:41 am

Reploid Productions wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:If I were Jolt right now, I'd give Earth: 2025 to the players. Now, I might have rarely heard of the game but, profit, size, whatever... it's still a community.

Unfortunately, not everyone is as generous with their intellectual property as Max...

To be honest I was thinking about a possible incorporation of Earth 2025 into NationStates (but then some changes would have to be made to avoid copyright infringement). Or I could invite them over here, making NationStates a successor to Earth 2025.

Just my thoughts there.

Well, I don't think Max would necessarily want to incorporate Earth 2025 stuff into Nationstates on any sort of official level. Too much code work and I don't necessarily think that the two games are particularly compatible, what with NS lacking war and an oft-stated note that it won't be added.

But if a bunch of Earth 2025 players want to make NS a new home, I don't see anybody here telling them to GTFO ;)


Indeed. Although, of all the nation sim type games I've played with actual war & economics engines, Earth: 2025 had the best. Not arcane and micromanaged like SimCountry. Not stupid like Cybernations. And not :palm: like OMAC's NS2.

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Maurepas wrote:
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:If I were Jolt right now, I'd give Earth: 2025 to the players. Now, I might have rarely heard of the game but, profit, size, whatever... it's still a community.

Unfortunately, not everyone is as generous with their intellectual property as Max...
To note, we of NS should buy Max's book in order to properly thank him. Now if I could only find one of his books...


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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:54 am

Is Jolt a big company?

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:10 am

Hairless Kitten II wrote:Is Jolt a big company?


OMAC, not Jolt, is the power behind it all. They'd screwed up enough that their website was unavailable last time I looked...
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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:13 am

Daistallia 2104 wrote:
Hairless Kitten II wrote:Is Jolt a big company?


OMAC, not Jolt, is the power behind it all. They'd screwed up enough that their website was unavailable last time I looked...


Ok and OMAC, is that a big one?

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Postby Meoton » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:14 am

Why doesn't JOLT release the game's source code. They aren't using it anymore. Let the gamers have it.

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Postby Hairless Kitten II » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:20 am

Meoton wrote:Why doesn't JOLT release the game's source code. They aren't using it anymore. Let the gamers have it.

:clap:


Why should they? If it's their property then they can do with it what they want.

And maybe the source code is holding development 'secrets & tricks' that could feed the competition...

Or maybe the source code is so disgusting bad, that they are ashamed to make it public. :)

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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:33 am

Meoton wrote:Why doesn't JOLT release the game's source code. They aren't using it anymore. Let the gamers have it.

:clap:


Because it's that bad.

Hairless Kitten II wrote:Why should they? If it's their property then they can do with it what they want.

And maybe the source code is holding development 'secrets & tricks' that could feed the competition...

Or maybe the source code is so disgusting bad, that they are ashamed to make it public. :)


If you want, I'll go dig up the post the president Dylan Colins made regarding how NS2 was full of lessons on how not to do things.Fucking coward couldn't admit it to the NS community, and had to go post it on another forum. (Note: I don't think he ever posted on either the Jolt NS forums or the NS2 forums.)
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:44 am

Hairless Kitten II wrote:Or maybe the source code is so disgusting bad, that they are ashamed to make it public. :)


Hence, NS2?

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