"Women want sex, just not with YOU."

[Aghny]

And guess what ? That is a choice right there. It is upto you to choose the outcome. You can simply choose not to have sex if you are physically able to.

Starvation or rape... it's your choice. The poor have no right to their bodies, amirite?

Then it is no different from legal prostitution.

[Samuraikoku]

Starvation or rape... it's your choice. The poor have no right to their bodies, amirite?

Then it is no different from legal prostitution.

With the exception that it's one side pressuring the other.

Rape apologist.

[Choronzon]

Then it is no different from legal prostitution.

With the exception that it's one side pressuring the other.

Rape apologist.

I mean, one of them seriously just asked why they have to get permission to have sex with someone.

That was a serious question.

[Seperates]

Starvation or rape... it's your choice. The poor have no right to their bodies, amirite?

Then it is no different from legal prostitution.

Not when it isn't in their job description.

[Samuraikoku]

I mean, one of them seriously just asked why they have to get permission to have sex with someone.

That was a serious question.

Rape apologists. Rape apologists everywhere.

[Choronzon]

I mean, one of them seriously just asked why they have to get permission to have sex with someone.

That was a serious question.

Rape apologists. Rape apologists everywhere.

I'm betting we get banned for calling them that, just FYI. Because this is NSG and we have really great mods.


I just don't even care anymore.

[Ljvonia]

Stow the insults,

No.

If this forum had a report button I'd use it right now... the way it is...on ignore you go.

[Aghny]

Consent cannot be assumed. Why do women's bodies exist in a state of default consent? You have yet to answer that question.

Non-consent cannot be assumed either. If they are capable of clearly expressing their intentions, but choose not to then that is consent. Where you are wrong is that you think one should ask beforehand. If they were going to say no, they will, assuming they are capable of doing so. Is that such a hard thing to grasp ?

[Samuraikoku]

I'm betting we get banned for calling them that, just FYI. Because this is NSG and we have really great mods.


I just don't even care anymore.

Well, when they care more about "The Emperor Protects" than actually solving actual problems...

[Choronzon]

No.

If this forum had a report button I'd use it right now...

Actually, if you really feel the need you can report me to moderation. I'd advise against it though, considering the amount of flaming you've done you'd go down with whoever was reported.

the way it is...on ignore you go.

Easier than answering my question, I guess.

[Samuraikoku]

Non-consent cannot be assumed either. If they are capable of clearly expressing their intentions, but choose not to then that is consent. Where you are wrong is that you think one should ask beforehand. If they were going to say no, they will, assuming they are capable of doing so. Is that such a hard thing to grasp ?

Once again, I inject you with something and harvest your organs. Why should I assume you didn't consent to me doing that?

[Aghny]

Then it is no different from legal prostitution.

With the exception that it's one side pressuring the other.

Rape apologist.

Then it is no different from legal prostitution.

Not when it isn't in their job description.

It is something that in both cases, they choose and hence it is in no way different.

Also if you are using the term Rape apologist as an insult then i don't really mind that.

[Choronzon]

Consent cannot be assumed. Why do women's bodies exist in a state of default consent? You have yet to answer that question.

Non-consent cannot be assumed either.

It certainly can.

If they are capable of clearly expressing their intentions, but choose not to then that is consent.

You're wrong, and this view is what makes you a rape apologist.

Where you are wrong is that you think one should ask beforehand.

Uhhhh....

Its wrong to ask if you can fuck someone before fucking them?

Rape apologist.

[Samuraikoku]

It is something that in both cases, they choose and hence it is in no way different.

Also if you are using the term Rape apologist as an insult then i don't really mind that.

One is a forced choice. The other one isn't.

And sadly, you are a rape apologist. Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

[Aghny]

Non-consent cannot be assumed either. If they are capable of clearly expressing their intentions, but choose not to then that is consent. Where you are wrong is that you think one should ask beforehand. If they were going to say no, they will, assuming they are capable of doing so. Is that such a hard thing to grasp ?

Once again, I inject you with something and harvest your organs. Why should I assume you didn't consent to me doing that?

If i was in a condition where i could say no, but did not, then by all means.

Another thing is did i take a drug knowingly or did you forced it into me or slipped it without me knowing. The first case is ok, the second is not.

I hope that clears things up.

[Choronzon]

Once again, I inject you with something and harvest your organs. Why should I assume you didn't consent to me doing that?

If i was in a condition where i could say no, but did not, then by all means.

Another thing is did i take a drug knowingly or did you forced it into me or slipped it without me knowing. The first case is ok, the second is not.

I hope that clears things up.

Hey, if you didn't want me to harvest your organs you shouldn't have been drinking and telling me how healthy you were. You were asking for it.

[Samuraikoku]

If i was in a condition where i could say no, but did not, then by all means.

Another thing is did i take a drug knowingly or did you forced it into me or slipped it without me knowing. The first case is ok, the second is not.

I hope that clears things up.

It does.

Once again, I inject you with something and harvest your organs. Why should I assume you didn't consent to me doing that?

You have no idea what you're talking about. Better yet, you do, and chose to ignore the actual question again.

[Aghny]

Non-consent cannot be assumed either.

It certainly can.

If they are capable of clearly expressing their intentions, but choose not to then that is consent.

You're wrong, and this view is what makes you a rape apologist.

Where you are wrong is that you think one should ask beforehand.

Uhhhh....

Its wrong to ask if you can fuck someone before fucking them?

Rape apologist.

Opinions =/= fact (I guess i have to copy this one just in case. I might need it alot)

It is something that in both cases, they choose and hence it is in no way different.

Also if you are using the term Rape apologist as an insult then i don't really mind that.

One is a forced choice. The other one isn't.

And sadly, you are a rape apologist. Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

Nope. Both are doing it for the same purpose, both have choice and the right and ability to refuse. If they don't they are basically doing the same thing.

[Choronzon]

Opinions =/= fact (I guess i have to copy this one just in case. I might need it alot)

For someone who has done nothing but offer misogynistic, laughably uninformed opinions unsupported by anything resembling a fact you sure do chirp that one a lot.

[Samuraikoku]

Opinions =/= fact (I guess i have to copy this one just in case. I might need it alot)

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it more true.

Nope. Both are doing it for the same purpose, both have choice and the right and ability to refuse. If they don't they are basically doing the same thing.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Better yet, you do, and chose to ignore the actual question again.

Quod erat demonstrandum.

[Aghny]

If i was in a condition where i could say no, but did not, then by all means.

Another thing is did i take a drug knowingly or did you forced it into me or slipped it without me knowing. The first case is ok, the second is not.

I hope that clears things up.

It does.

Once again, I inject you with something and harvest your organs. Why should I assume you didn't consent to me doing that?

You have no idea what you're talking about. Better yet, you do, and chose to ignore the actual question again.

If the bolded part is the question then you shouldn't, if the situation was as i mentioned.

[Condunum]

Not that this will be Listened to, but..

"Consent refers to the provision of approval or agreement, particularly and especially after thoughtful consideration."

"Implied consent is a controversial form of consent which is not expressly granted by a person, but rather inferred from a person's actions and the facts and circumstances of a particular situation (or in some cases, by a person's silence or inaction)."

Consent is a psychological state of approval of an agreement. implied consenst is a concept you are trying to argue for without actually understanding. The only way to achieve implied consent is through non-verbal displays of agreement. I.E.: She takes her clothes off.

Case here, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[Samuraikoku]

If the bolded part is the question then you shouldn't, if the situation was as i mentioned.

So why should we assume one automatically must say yes to have sex?

[Aghny]

Opinions =/= fact (I guess i have to copy this one just in case. I might need it alot)

For someone who has done nothing but offer misogynistic, laughably uninformed opinions unsupported by anything resembling a fact you sure do chirp that one a lot.

I am not the one acting like "everything" i post is fact.

Opinions =/= fact (I guess i have to copy this one just in case. I might need it alot)

Repeating something over and over doesn't make it more true.

So now opinions are facts ? That actually explains alot of your views.

Nope. Both are doing it for the same purpose, both have choice and the right and ability to refuse. If they don't they are basically doing the same thing.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Better yet, you do, and chose to ignore the actual question again.

I have answered your question and if you can't grasp it, it is not my fault. I am not getting paid to teach you or anything. I don't intend to do it out of my kind nature either.

[Choronzon]

For someone who has done nothing but offer misogynistic, laughably uninformed opinions unsupported by anything resembling a fact you sure do chirp that one a lot.

I am not the one acting like "everything" i post is fact.

Nor are we, we are acting like legal definitions are legal definitions.