"Women want sex, just not with YOU."

[The Steel Magnolia]

Humor me. Tell me how I deserved it.

I wouldn't say that calling you stupid is abuse. But as for the rest of it, your only fault is that you didn't take any action against it. You also admitted to lying to the authorities. So you had a chance to make it stop, yet you didn't.

You really need to get the fuck out of this thread.

[Aghny]

...so what the so-called pickup-artists are doing is indeed lawful and morally right, because as far as I saw (and I after all had a few evenings without NS to distract me, lol) they train and study to archieve said "yes". personally I found that a simple "don't fuck anyone who does object to it" cuts it quite well.

So if you train for a crime it's not a crime now?

Also no. Only have sex with people who give you explicit informed consent. The default is always a no.

Do I really need to point out the obvious here? "Legal" is not a magic watchword that makes immune from criticism, nor does it mean anything universal. Legal where, legal by what law? As for being ashamed: go fuck yourself.

Indi really isn't the one in this conversation who deserves to be told to go fuck themselves.

As i said in that other thread,

Opinion =/= facts.

Your opinion on the matter doesn't value any more than his.


Also it is not upto you to dictate what i should or should not do.

If a mod doesn't want me in this thread, i'd oblige. But since you are not one...

[Samuraikoku]

I wouldn't say that calling you stupid is abuse. But as for the rest of it, your only fault is that you didn't take any action against it. You also admitted to lying to the authorities. So you had a chance to make it stop, yet you didn't.

You really need to get the fuck out of this thread.

He'll get inside a bunker and wait for the angry mob.

By his own account!

[Ljvonia]

So if you train for a crime it's not a crime now?

Also no. Only have sex with people who give you explicit informed consent. The default is always a no.

Crime? Who said anything like that, do you have trouble comprehending what I wrote?

they train and study to archieve said "yes".

There it is again, just for you. They try to find out what makes women consent to sex and then they apply their knowledge. Seems good to me.

And you should be ashamed, given that that's the legal definition of rape.

Do I really need to point out the obvious here? "Legal" is not a magic watchword that makes immune from criticism, nor does it mean anything universal. Legal where, legal by what law? As for being ashamed: go fuck yourself.

Indi really isn't the one in this conversation who deserves to be told to go fuck themselves.

I'd rather fuck women who don't object to it.

[Samuraikoku]

As i said in that other thread,

Opinion =/= facts.

Your opinion on the matter doesn't value any more than his.

When your opinion is sustained by facts, story's different. Yours goes contrary to the fact that sex without consent is classified as rape in many jurisdictions.

[Aghny]

As i said in that other thread,

Opinion =/= facts.

Your opinion on the matter doesn't value any more than his.

When your opinion is sustained by facts, story's different. Yours goes contrary to the fact that sex without consent is classified as rape in many jurisdictions.

In many, but not all. Law =/= fact either. If a country again passes law saying that slave trade and possession is legal, would you take it as a fact ?

[Ljvonia]

As i said in that other thread,

Opinion =/= facts.

Your opinion on the matter doesn't value any more than his.

[The Steel Magnolia]

And the methods to obtaining that yes are coercive and/or illegal.

[The Steel Magnolia]

When your opinion is sustained by facts, story's different. Yours goes contrary to the fact that sex without consent is classified as rape in many jurisdictions.

In many, but not all. Law =/= fact either. If a country again passes law saying that slave trade and possession is legal, would you take it as a fact ?

That it's the law? Um, yes?

[Samuraikoku]

In many, but not all. Law =/= fact either. If a country again passes law saying that slave trade and possession is legal, would you take it as a fact ?

You seem to be confusing "facts" with "right". If a law says slavery is legal, it would be a fact that it is. Would it be right? No.

[Samuraikoku]

That it's the law? Um, yes?

You slavery supporter. *nods*

[Aghny]

In many, but not all. Law =/= fact either. If a country again passes law saying that slave trade and possession is legal, would you take it as a fact ?

You seem to be confusing "facts" with "right". If a law says slavery is legal, it would be a fact that it is. Would it be right? No.

Is it the law in some places ? yes, that is a fact.
Does that mean that particular statement have been proven to be true with enough data to back up that claim ? no. Hence not a fact.

And what i am arguing about is the bolded parts

Only have sex with people who give you explicit informed consent. The default is always a no.

That is an opinion and not a fact.

[Samuraikoku]

Is it the law in some places ? yes, that is a fact.
Does that mean that particular statement have been proven to be true with enough data to back up that claim ? no.

What does a law need to prove? The law is the law.

And what i am arguing about is the bolded parts

Only have sex with people who give you explicit informed consent. The default is always a no.

That is an opinion and not a fact.

No, that is a fact. That you fail to acknowledge makes you a rape supporter.

[The Steel Magnolia]

That isn't an opinion.

[Aghny]

In many, but not all. Law =/= fact either. If a country again passes law saying that slave trade and possession is legal, would you take it as a fact ?

That it's the law? Um, yes?

No, that it is ok to do it.

[Individuality-ness]

Humor me. Tell me how I deserved it.

I wouldn't say that calling you stupid is abuse. But as for the rest of it, your only fault is that you didn't take any action against it. You also admitted to lying to the authorities. So you had a chance to make it stop, yet you didn't.

Thank you. That was all I needed.

Now as for your mother, this is one of those situations where i certainly wouldn't mind hitting her.
(Not that i would since it had nothing to do with me, but just saying)

I won't let you do that.

[Samuraikoku]

No, that it is ok to do it.

You seem to be confusing "facts" with "right". If a law says slavery is legal, it would be a fact that it is. Would it be right? No.

[The Rich Port]

That it's the law? Um, yes?

No, that it is ok to do it.

No, but it IS the law.

Not that I would enforce or follow it, but still, it is the law.

[The Steel Magnolia]

That it's the law? Um, yes?

No, that it is ok to do it.

I'm really not seeing how this is germane.

Are there unjust laws? Sure.

Is making sure people can't rape unjust? Fuck no.

[Aghny]

That isn't an opinion.

Yes, it is unless you can provide evidence to back it up. I said it is subjective. According to you it is not. Can you prove that you are right with proof and not just your assertions ? If so, i'd like to see them.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Is it the law in some places ? yes, that is a fact.Does that mean that particular statement have been proven to be true with enough data to back up that claim ? no. Hence not a fact.

And what i am arguing about is the bolded parts

Only have sex with people who give you explicit informed consent. The default is always a no.

That is an opinion and not a fact.

Yup, rapist supporter. I suggest you get the fuck out of this thread.

Hey, just curious, are you registered sex offender?

[Samuraikoku]

Yes, it is unless you can provide evidence to back it up. I said it is subjective. According to you it is not. Can you prove that you are right with proof and not just your assertions ? If so, i'd like to see them.

Sex without consent is rape. So the law says in many jurisdictions. What proof does that need?

[Aghny]

No, that it is ok to do it.

You seem to be confusing "facts" with "right". If a law says slavery is legal, it would be a fact that it is. Would it be right? No.

If you didn't notice, i did reply to that in another post of mine.

Yup rapist supporter. I suggest you get the fuck out of this thread.

I suggest that you not waste your time and bandwidth with that, because i don't intend to.

Yes, it is unless you can provide evidence to back it up. I said it is subjective. According to you it is not. Can you prove that you are right with proof and not just your assertions ? If so, i'd like to see them.

Sex without consent is rape. So the law says in many jurisdictions. What proof does that need?

Either you don't understand my posts or are not trying to. And i already replied to you about the whole law deal.

[Samuraikoku]

If you didn't notice, i did reply to that in another post of mine.

What I notice is that you seem to ignore arguments about what is rape. Going against the definition of rape makes you, unfortunately, a rape supporter.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

If you didn't notice, i did reply to that in another post of mine.

Yup rapist supporter. I suggest you get the fuck out of this thread.

I suggest that you not waste your time and bandwidth with that, because i don't intend to.

Nah, you should stop wasting bandwidth, go sit in the corner and think about what you are saying. I suggest you go back to school.