"Women want sex, just not with YOU."

[Ethel mermania]

thats rape. not a pickup. whats your point?

The point is that this sort of thing is by far the normal

Confidence boosters, conversation tips? That's fine.

That's not what pickup artists do.

ummm no, just simply no.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_ ... #section_2

as i would hope your aware many rape victims know their assliant. when i tried to get some stats on rape from bars i could only get reports not statistics. according to wiki only 26% of rape participants were strangers to each other. picking up a partner in a bar is not rape.

[Aghny]

I have absolutely no idea why your mother thought you did. Hence why i said it would be something that you should be asking her.

If i am to be of some help, i am going to need "details"

Excuse me, are you suggesting that there is a legitimate reason for subjecting a child to abuse?

Considering this communities definition of rape, i need to know as i said, the details before i even consider it abuse. Especially since he/she mentioned it was "emotional abuse".

[Individuality-ness]

So I deserved abuse why again?

I have absolutely no idea why your mother thought you did. Hence why i said it would be something that you should be asking her.

If i am to be of some help, i am going to need "details"

I'm not reposing that story. You can find it if you look up 4 November with me as the author.

[New England and The Maritimes]

The point is that this sort of thing is by far the normal

Confidence boosters, conversation tips? That's fine.

That's not what pickup artists do.

ummm no, just simply no.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_ ... #section_2

as i would hope your aware many rape victims know their assliant. when i tried to get some stats on rape from bars i could only get reports not statistics. according to wiki only 26% of rape participants were strangers to each other. picking up a partner in a bar is not rape.

According to RAINN it's much lower than 26%. To put it into perspective, around two thirds of rapists are acquaintances, IE friends of friends or family friends who the person knows and has probably seen many times. Acquaintances can be found in bars.

[New Harvest]

:V My girlfriend and I celebrate our weirdness.

I actually like weird people more. They're much more interesting to get to know.

no usually when i do have a girlfreind we be wierd together, but i mean really fucking wierd

[Ethel mermania]

The same thing that makes a man 'deserve' being hit.

And what do you think makes a man 'deserve' to be hit?

if he was hitting a child,

[Ljvonia]

I could start it up again and begin anew in examining your really very strange definition of consent, but i think I'll just continue not giving a fuck about you and your kind.

Yes. "Yes" and yes alone is consent. It's not strange nor complicated.

...so what the so-called pickup-artists are doing is indeed lawful and morally right, because as far as I saw (and I after all had a few evenings without NS to distract me, lol) they train and study to archieve said "yes". personally I found that a simple "don't fuck anyone who does object to it" cuts it quite well.

I could start it up again and begin anew in examining your really very strange definition of consent, but i think I'll just continue not giving a fuck about you and your kind.

And you should be ashamed, given that that's the legal definition of rape.

Do I really need to point out the obvious here? "Legal" is not a magic watchword that makes immune from criticism, nor does it mean anything universal. Legal where, legal by what law? As for being ashamed: go fuck yourself.

[Freiheit Reich]

I seriously don't know how to react to that second part.

Is Snafturi American? If so this is proof of what I meant about the aggressive culture in the USA. Too many people think of women only as sex objects. I don't think it is cool to pressure a women into sex. If she wants it and was not pressured than that is fine but when words like 'force' are added in followed by commands of 'shut up' it does not seem very romantic and makes one suspicious the man was only seeking sex and not any emotional attachment or a relationship (even friends with benefits involves emotion on a friend level). Also the woman's feelings may be hurt and she may feel regrets about the sex encounter. It is not cool to make her feel dirty, she is not a prostitute.

This is even more aggressive than what I thought the average man is like. I wonder if things are getting worse and men are bocoming more violent by nature?

Perhaps it was just a joke of a post though, maybe he got it off a movie.

[Aghny]

I have absolutely no idea why your mother thought you did. Hence why i said it would be something that you should be asking her.

If i am to be of some help, i am going to need "details"

I'm not reposing that story. You can find it if you look up 4 November with me as the author.

Considering how lazy i am, do you honestly think i am going go go through that trouble, especially since it isn't my problem to begin with. What am i supposed to be ? an angel or white knight perhaps /sarcasm

[The Rich Port]

I seriously don't know how to react to that second part.

Confusion>Shock>Disgust>Fear>Melancholy>Depression was my route, personally.

I go through the five stages of grief on a regular basis on this website.

[Ethel mermania]

ummm no, just simply no.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_ ... #section_2

as i would hope your aware many rape victims know their assliant. when i tried to get some stats on rape from bars i could only get reports not statistics. according to wiki only 26% of rape participants were strangers to each other. picking up a partner in a bar is not rape.

According to RAINN it's much lower than 26%. To put it into perspective, around two thirds of rapists are acquaintances, IE friends of friends or family friends who the person knows and has probably seen many times. Acquaintances can be found in bars.

true, the point still stands pickup artists are not by definition rapists, and by calling everything rape we diminish what rape is.

[Individuality-ness]

I'm not reposing that story. You can find it if you look up 4 November with me as the author.

Considering how lazy i am, do you honestly think i am going go go through that trouble, especially since it isn't my problem to begin with. What am i supposed to be ? an angel or white knight perhaps /sarcasm

You're arguing that people deserve abuse. I'm putting myself up there as an example of an abuse case to see how you justify something like that, so that I can see your logic. Humor me.

[Conserative Morality]

if he was hitting a child,

I was asking him. I trust most people to hold reasonable opinions on when it is and is not appropriate to hit a human being.

[The Rich Port]

Although, I'm certain we can all agree pick-up artists are retarded.

I mean... Come on.

[Aghny]

Considering how lazy i am, do you honestly think i am going go go through that trouble, especially since it isn't my problem to begin with. What am i supposed to be ? an angel or white knight perhaps /sarcasm

You're arguing that people deserve abuse. I'm putting myself up there as an example of an abuse case to see how you justify something like that, so that I can see your logic. Humor me.

Only if you can find and post that link here.
For the record for anyone who cares, I did not say that people deserve abuse, just that people sometimes deserve punishment for their actions. To classify it as abuse is not something i'd do.

[Samuraikoku]

Of course! What I really want in a future partner is someone who will treat me like dirt, someone who will use me as his punching bag. No flowers or chocolates for me, just tell me what a useless slut I am and beat me. So much the better!

Afraid I can't do that. I can hit you on the head with a newspaper if it'll suit you.

[Ethel mermania]

if he was hitting a child,

I was asking him. I trust most people to hold reasonable opinions on when it is and is not appropriate to hit a human being.

that is the first time you have called me reasonable.

[Individuality-ness]

You're arguing that people deserve abuse. I'm putting myself up there as an example of an abuse case to see how you justify something like that, so that I can see your logic. Humor me.

Only if you can find and post that link here.
For the record for anyone who cares, I did not say that people deserve abuse, just that people sometimes deserve punishment for their actions. To classify it as abuse is not something i'd do.

Humor me. Tell me how I deserved it.

[Conserative Morality]

that is the first time you have called me reasonable.

I may disagree with you from time to time, but I've never thought you unreasonable.

[Ethel mermania]

Only if you can find and post that link here.
For the record for anyone who cares, I did not say that people deserve abuse, just that people sometimes deserve punishment for their actions. To classify it as abuse is not something i'd do.

Humor me. Tell me how I deserved it.

the only thing i can say to you is, you get to pick her nursing home, make it a crappy one. also if you ever do have kids, dont let her see them.

honestly if i caught her in the act i wouldnt have much of a problem beating the crap out of her.

[Choronzon]

I seriously don't know how to react to that second part.

Confusion>Shock>Disgust>Fear>Melancholy>Depression was my route, personally.

A step by step How to Rape guide is not something you see everyday on NSG.

[Rocopurr]

You're arguing that people deserve abuse. I'm putting myself up there as an example of an abuse case to see how you justify something like that, so that I can see your logic. Humor me.

Only if you can find and post that link here.
For the record for anyone who cares, I did not say that people deserve abuse, just that people sometimes deserve punishment for their actions. To classify it as abuse is not something i'd do.

Physically, psychologically, or emotionally traumatizing a child is not a suitable punishment. Kids should be respectful to their parents because they know its right, not out of fear of being hurt.

[The Steel Magnolia]

The point is that this sort of thing is by far the normal

Confidence boosters, conversation tips? That's fine.

That's not what pickup artists do.

ummm no, just simply no.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_ ... #section_2

as i would hope your aware many rape victims know their assliant. when i tried to get some stats on rape from bars i could only get reports not statistics. according to wiki only 26% of rape participants were strangers to each other. picking up a partner in a bar is not rape.

Well thankfully I didn't say picking strangers up in a bar was rape. I said much of the advice PUAs give encourages rape.

[Aghny]

Only if you can find and post that link here.
For the record for anyone who cares, I did not say that people deserve abuse, just that people sometimes deserve punishment for their actions. To classify it as abuse is not something i'd do.

Humor me. Tell me how I deserved it.

I wouldn't say that calling you stupid is abuse. But as for the rest of it, your only fault is that you didn't take any action against it. You also admitted to lying to the authorities. So you had a chance to make it stop, yet you didn't.

Now as for your mother, this is one of those situations where i certainly wouldn't mind hitting her.
(Not that i would since it had nothing to do with me, but just saying)

[The Steel Magnolia]

Yes. "Yes" and yes alone is consent. It's not strange nor complicated.

...so what the so-called pickup-artists are doing is indeed lawful and morally right, because as far as I saw (and I after all had a few evenings without NS to distract me, lol) they train and study to archieve said "yes". personally I found that a simple "don't fuck anyone who does object to it" cuts it quite well.

So if you train for a crime it's not a crime now?

Also no. Only have sex with people who give you explicit informed consent. The default is always a no.

And you should be ashamed, given that that's the legal definition of rape.

Do I really need to point out the obvious here? "Legal" is not a magic watchword that makes immune from criticism, nor does it mean anything universal. Legal where, legal by what law? As for being ashamed: go fuck yourself.

Indi really isn't the one in this conversation who deserves to be told to go fuck themselves.