"Women want sex, just not with YOU."

[Individuality-ness]

Because obviously women could just not want sex with that person, right?

Of course. And I guess an alternate way of phrasing things is that women seem to have higher standards. Most single males I know would probably sleep with just about any woman who was at all attractive. For that matter, my own standards for "physically attractive" seem to encompass at least 50% of women around my age in my area.

Hmm. Imma go make a poll.

In all honesty, not everything that people do is related to "babbies!" -- this is the one nitpick that I have with evolutionary psycharity.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Significant parts of what pickup artists do is legally rape.

no, if there is consent there is no rape.
when we call everything rape, we trivialize what rape is.

1. Dont let the friends see you, because they are drunk and retarded as well and no amount of game will make them think youre not one of the old creeps groping on them on the dance floor. You need to isolate and make out quickly, dominate the conversation and make her laugh and react. Pace it a little bit so a vibe actually forms but never let her time to think, otherwise she going to see her friends, and you're done.

Once you pulled her away from the friends, made out, and have a somewhat chill vibe going on (takes 15 -30mins), you say "this bar sucks, lets go to another bar". If she wants to know where it is, you say 2 min walk. If she has to get her coat, you guys go get the coat, if she has to say bye to her friends, you tell her what to say and hope to god that it's gonna work. If she refuses, you didnt do the first part right.

Once youre out, walk 2 blocks away from the bar. get in a cab and go to your house. If she objects, say its too cold/hot to walk./ Its just 5 min/i just wanna kiss/ can we kiss?/ ignore what she says and physically force her. If you cant verbally and physically dominate a drunk 18 yo girl that likes you, please kill yourself.

To get inside your house, tell her you need to get money before you guys go to the bar. Once inside, quickly take off your coat and shoes and put on some music, dim lights and pour yourseld a drink. In 1 min or less. Start making out, tell her youre gonna make her visit. Quickly take her to your room and if she says anything while you take off all your clothes, tell her to shut the fuck up, and make her go on her knees [...].

Shes young, shes drunk, she likes you.she wont resist. Or not a lot.

You need to act quick, dont let her any time to think or lead. Only pace yourself to get a vibe going. Do not hesitate, or youre fucked. Dont be afraid to physically force her to do anything or to tell her no or shut up. (can make her not like you [...] so only do it ifnecessary)

[The Steel Magnolia]

Um. Yes. Yes she does.

sex workers can say "no".

That was the point I was making.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Oh, learning how to talk to women and how to interpret their signals is rape...that's a new one, even for you.

Please, don't bring that one up. According to most here, everything is rape.

(Oh and just learned that i supposedly am a woman abuser)

Oh, link please? I'd be unsurprised.

[Fluffy Coyotes]

(seriously guys cos that worked so well for the people who say homosexuality is unnatural)

Except that homosexuality has an evolutionary explanation of its own.

Also moderate vs. heavy reliance on anecdotes aren't the only options. There are those of us who believe our reasoning should be independent of our anecdotes and in some cases are in stark contrast to them.

A beef with the way conclusions are jumped to about people based on their opinions? Sure. But that's not what you claimed; you claimed the beef was with someone saying something mean to me, which was wrong on multiple levels.

I don't know who you think you're fooling.

About what?

[Conserative Morality]

no, if there is consent there is no rape.
when we call everything rape, we trivialize what rape is.

1. Dont let the friends see you, because they are drunk and retarded as well and no amount of game will make them think youre not one of the old creeps groping on them on the dance floor. You need to isolate and make out quickly, dominate the conversation and make her laugh and react. Pace it a little bit so a vibe actually forms but never let her time to think, otherwise she going to see her friends, and you're done.

Once you pulled her away from the friends, made out, and have a somewhat chill vibe going on (takes 15 -30mins), you say "this bar sucks, lets go to another bar". If she wants to know where it is, you say 2 min walk. If she has to get her coat, you guys go get the coat, if she has to say bye to her friends, you tell her what to say and hope to god that it's gonna work. If she refuses, you didnt do the first part right.

Once youre out, walk 2 blocks away from the bar. get in a cab and go to your house. If she objects, say its too cold/hot to walk./ Its just 5 min/i just wanna kiss/ can we kiss?/ ignore what she says and physically force her. If you cant verbally and physically dominate a drunk 18 yo girl that likes you, please kill yourself.

To get inside your house, tell her you need to get money before you guys go to the bar. Once inside, quickly take off your coat and shoes and put on some music, dim lights and pour yourseld a drink. In 1 min or less. Start making out, tell her youre gonna make her visit. Quickly take her to your room and if she says anything while you take off all your clothes, tell her to shut the fuck up, and make her go on her knees [...].

Shes young, shes drunk, she likes you.she wont resist. Or not a lot.

You need to act quick, dont let her any time to think or lead. Only pace yourself to get a vibe going. Do not hesitate, or youre fucked. Dont be afraid to physically force her to do anything or to tell her no or shut up. (can make her not like you [...] so only do it ifnecessary)

What the fuck.

[Aghny]

Please, don't bring that one up. According to most here, everything is rape.

(Oh and just learned that i supposedly am a woman abuser)

Oh, link please? I'd be unsurprised.

That beat up and now closed thread right here on our own forums on which we argued about rape and consent and all that a few days ago... (I am sure you can find the link, page 15x (x = 0-9))

Well, you know what, this is a little boring for my tastes, so i am going to go ahead and say that i have no problems with hitting a woman if they deserve it. And now, i will be right back, need to get inside a bunker and wait out the angry mob.

[Individuality-ness]

What the fuck.

Yeah, it's fucked up.

[Samuraikoku]

That beat up and now closed thread right here on our own forums on which we argued about rape and consent and all that a few days ago... (I am sure you can find the link, page 15x (x = 0-9))

Well, you know what, this is a little boring for my tastes, so i am going to go ahead and say that i have no problems with hitting a woman if they deserve it. And now, i will be right back, need to get inside a bunker and wait out the angry mob.

Domestic abuse gets you thrown in prison.

[Conserative Morality]

That beat up and now closed thread right here on our own forums on which we argued about rape and consent and all that a few days ago... (I am sure you can find the link, page 15x (x = 0-9))

So page 0-135? Should be easy.

Well, you know what, this is a little boring for my tastes, so i am going to go ahead and say that i have no problems with hitting a woman if they deserve it. And now, i will be right back, need to get inside a bunker and wait out the angry mob.

...

I hesitate to ask what you think makes a woman 'deserve' being hit.

[Individuality-ness]

Oh, link please? I'd be unsurprised.

That beat up and now closed thread right here on our own forums on which we argued about rape and consent and all that a few days ago... (I am sure you can find the link, page 15x (x = 0-9))

Well, you know what, this is a little boring for my tastes, so i am going to go ahead and say that i have no problems with hitting a woman if they deserve it. And now, i will be right back, need to get inside a bunker and wait out the angry mob.

You're the reason why rape culture exists, why domestic abuse exists. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Ethel mermania]

no, if there is consent there is no rape.
when we call everything rape, we trivialize what rape is.

....

To get inside your house, tell her you need to get money before you guys go to the bar. Once inside, quickly take off your coat and shoes and put on some music, dim lights and pour yourseld a drink. In 1 min or less. Start making out, tell her youre gonna make her visit. Quickly take her to your room and if she says anything while you take off all your clothes, tell her to shut the fuck up, and make her go on her knees [...].

Shes young, shes drunk, she likes you.she wont resist. Or not a lot.
....
You need to act quick, dont let her any time to think or lead. Only pace yourself to get a vibe going. Do not hesitate, or youre fucked. Dont be afraid to physically force her to do anything or to tell her no or shut up. (can make her not like you [...] so only do it ifnecessary)

thats rape. not a pickup. whats your point?

[The Steel Magnolia]

Oh, link please? I'd be unsurprised.

That beat up and now closed thread right here on our own forums on which we argued about rape and consent and all that a few days ago... (I am sure you can find the link, page 15x (x = 0-9))

Well, you know what, this is a little boring for my tastes, so i am going to go ahead and say that i have no problems with hitting a woman if they deserve it. And now, i will be right back, need to get inside a bunker and wait out the angry mob.

You are an abuser, a misogynist, and an unrepentent and prospective criminal.

Good to know.

[Individuality-ness]

That beat up and now closed thread right here on our own forums on which we argued about rape and consent and all that a few days ago... (I am sure you can find the link, page 15x (x = 0-9))

Well, you know what, this is a little boring for my tastes, so i am going to go ahead and say that i have no problems with hitting a woman if they deserve it. And now, i will be right back, need to get inside a bunker and wait out the angry mob.

Domestic abuse gets you thrown in prison.

Oh, but he loves women so. Look at her her damaged emotional state, her bruises! The marks of true love!

[The Steel Magnolia]

thats rape. not a pickup. whats your point?

The point is that this sort of thing is by far the norm.

Confidence boosters, conversation tips? That's fine.

That's not what pickup artists do.

[Ljvonia]

Oh, learning how to talk to women and how to interpret their signals is rape...that's a new one, even for you.

Do I know you?

I'll give you a hint:

[Samuraikoku]

Oh, but he loves women so. Look at her her damaged emotional state, her bruises! The marks of true love!

And the law is sexist and unfair for throwing such a loving man to jail.

[The Steel Magnolia]

Do I know you?

I'll give you a hint:

That really doesn't help.

Seriously I don't keep a record of who I talk to on here, cool folks in my TG archive aside.

[Northern Dominus]

thats rape. not a pickup. whats your point?

The point is that this sort of thing is by far the norm.

Confidence boosters, conversation tips? That's fine.

That's not what pickup artists do.

You're gonna have to provide an article on that one Steel. Yes there are misogynist pickup artists out there, and they do in fact suck. Most are rather overblown frocked douchebags in their own right. Funny, but not rapists.

[Esternial]

I'll give you a hint:

That really doesn't help.

Seriously I don't keep a record of who I talk to on here, cool folks in my TG archive aside.

I'd better be in that archive.

[Individuality-ness]

Oh, but he loves women so. Look at her her damaged emotional state, her bruises! The marks of true love!

And the law is sexist and unfair for throwing such a loving man to jail.

Of course! What I really want in a future partner is someone who will treat me like dirt, someone who will use me as his punching bag. No flowers or chocolates for me, just tell me what a useless slut I am and beat me. So much the better!

[Samuraikoku]

That really doesn't help.

Seriously I don't keep a record of who I talk to on here, cool folks in my TG archive aside.

*Is on TG archive* Count?

[The Steel Magnolia]

The point is that this sort of thing is by far the norm.

Confidence boosters, conversation tips? That's fine.

That's not what pickup artists do.

You're gonna have to provide an article on that one Steel. Yes there are misogynist pickup artists out there, and they do in fact suck. Most are rather overblown frocked douchebags in their own right. Funny, but not rapists.

Really all I can say is go to any PUA forum and I guarantee you there will be pieces of advice that are legally rape.

Which of course means no I don't have any sources, because there are hundreds of these types of forums out there. If you get on to the onion network or something similar, you can find hundreds more.

[Freiheit Reich]

edit: i dont think being as asshole would get him laid either, but that is a different topic for a different day.

I know how he could have sex but he might not like it. I'd recommend saving up some money and visiting Nevada for a prostitute. Sure, the sex requires a condom but its not like a prostitute has to accept your money and consent to sex with you. It is just more guaranteed and easy.

That is a ridiculous idea. He should go for an older woman that is divorced (around 40-average looking) or a younger fat chick (but with a cute face). He can at least have pride in himself for scoring with a below average looking woman as opposed to paying for a cold lady. Paying ain't cool.

If he is going to pay, take a flight to Thailand. Rent a place for 1 month and try a few women out for less money. Then you can also see a new country, chill at the beach, and have the world's best food (which I can rarely eat here because it is pricy).

Unsure if Latin America is another option if he wishes to follow the pay advice.

Try to avoid paying though, you will feel better about yourself.

[Aghny]

Domestic abuse gets you thrown in prison.

Not here. The law doesn't simply care unless it is a serious one.

You're the reason why rape culture exists, why domestic abuse exists. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I am going to stay tall and proud thank you.

Oh, but he loves women so. Look at her her damaged emotional state, her bruises! The marks of true love!

I don't love all women any more than i love everything else. (If that didn't make much sense, that was because it was my intention)

I hesitate to ask what you think makes a woman 'deserve' being hit.

The same thing that makes a man 'deserve' being hit.